vg|2008 Vanderbilt Final - #12 vs #22,4th Quarter,I,17,32,Rubin,94,Team Poland,96|
rs|2SS=,1SN=,4HW+1,5DW+1,4SS=,4SS=,6CW+1,6CW+1,3HE+1,3NN-1,1SS=,1SS=,3CW+1,4SEx-1,4HE=,4HE=,4SN-1,4SN-1,4SE=,3SE+1,3NS+1,3NS=,3SN=,3SN=,4HW-1,4HW-1,4HE+2,4HE+1,3HW-1,3HW-1,2SW=,2HE=|
pn|Jansma,Gierulski,Verhees,Skrzypczak,Martens,Weichsel,Jassem,Lesniewski|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SAQHAJ63DKT95CJ82,S875HT8DQJ843CAKT,SJ9632H754DA6C954,SKT4HKQ92D72CQ763|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|mareczek: hi all :)|pg||
nt|mareczek: Martens had a good overcall|pg||
nt|mareczek: but must pay for it|pg||
nt|mareczek: there are high chances that this action will be repeated|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: 3nT does not look better than 3@h|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mareczek: I think NS has more chances to make 3NT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|me argent: not tough play with 11 tricks in nt|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Hello everyone and welcome back to Schaumburg (near Chicago) for the United States Bridge Championships 2007. Open series, quarter-finals, 8 segments of 15 boards. This is the ...|pg||
nt|Walddk1: fifth|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Joey Silver from Canada|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|Walddk1: Hi Joey|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|me argent: now 10 tricks with stansby safety play in @Ds|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|me argent: when south played @D 9 under Q it was safe to overtake incase @Ds were 41|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SAQHAJ63DKT95CJ82,S875HT8DQJ843CAKT,SJ9632H754DA6C954,SKT4HKQ92D72CQ763|sv|o|nt|brolucius: The second-seat intervention helped, because it let the opener know that partner's spades were five-carded.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, 9 tricks in NT, 10 in a major, 11 in a minor - you must know surely|pg||
nt|fann4: POLAND is a 4 man team - we will see over the course of this match how they will handle the fatigue factor.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Tezcan Sen from Türkiye|pg||
nt|tez: hi all|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: hi all welcome back|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: welcome back|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Only 3 sets out of 8 have been played, so there will no excuse whatsoever for against-the-odds play 'because of the score'. Both sides must aim for tight, accurate bridge.|pg||
nt|fann4: So far they have done excellently.|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Catalina so we are back to the 3/4 of a close match for the Vanderbilt|pg||
mb|1C|nt|gosia: looking forward to some exciting bridge !|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Hi|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ybob: 4@H win E-W|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bjacobs: I agree, but will the players?|pg||
nt|sunsamvar: Wlc back|pg||
nt|brolucius: South cannot visualise a game opposite a passed partner (who could not even open 2@S).|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: interesting 4s contract if they can escape the fatal heart lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: He might bid 1NT, but I cannot see anything else worthwhile. No, he has passed.|pg||
nt|fann4: Same contract in the OR (Open Room)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome back Catalina|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Vugraph7: director is here|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: called by east|pg||
nt|gosia: re hi|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma says they are playing Martens system here|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North will be happy that his partner has not set him a more challenging target.|pg||
nt|gosia: not much to this hand|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Aviv Shahaf from USA|pg||
nt|caitlin: with everything onside this one should be a breeze|pg||
nt|dburn: well, at least he's saying it to an opponent who will know what he means|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fann4: Hi again everyone.|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: the pass means 6 points|pg||
nt|avivs: this should make for 1 imp loss|pg||
pc|d9|nt|caitlin: Hi Aviv:)|pg||
nt|avivs: hello everyone :)|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fnickell: hello|pg||
nt|ybob: hi|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|brolucius: If declarer rises with the ace, he will suffer a heart ruff on the third round.|pg||
nt|bessi2: wow.... great lead by Martens|pg||
nt|avivs: at other room South was delarer after a transfer sequence and West made the unfortunate lead of the @dQ|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fann4: N has to insert the 9 to beat it|pg||
nt|gosia: Hi proud Daddy :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: is there a convincing argument for playing the 9?|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk3: NS playing two different systems, depending on vulnerability. I have got links to both of them|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|avivs: :)|pg||
pc|s7|nt|gosia: re|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now there is no entry to the West hand, so there will be no heart ruff.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/ynk8p2   Martens-Jassem NV|pg||
pc|d7|nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/2cvxfj   Martens-Jassem VUL|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|dburn: what is South's notrump range?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fann4: I think so.|pg||
nt|avivs: I think it's 15-17, he must have downgraded his hand|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe he downgraded his actual 15|pg||
nt|dburn: which, I guess led to a pleasing auction in which all four suits were bid at the one level, and then everyone gave up|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|gosia: Aviv has a little baby girl at home :)|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Martens moving around|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might have held a singleton diamond, giving him an entry. That is why East switched to hearts before continuing diamonds.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
nt|bessi2: well.. the dummy appears quite strong to me and where did he see the 4 tricks coming from ?|pg||
nt|caitlin: congratulations Avivs:))|pg||
nt|avivs: ty ty|pg||
nt|gosia: can't wait to see her - hope she looks like her mom :) just kidding|pg||
nt|tez: hi all|pg||
nt|phantoma: hi T|pg||
nt|avivs: I hope so too...|pg||
nt|ybob: hi|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi again Tez:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: Roberto:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: Phantoma:)|pg||
nt|gosia: FYI - Rubin-Ekeblad are not playing because Rubin got sick - hopefully just some nasty bug :)|pg||
nt|ybob: Caitlin :)|pg||
nt|dburn: may not be completely clear to get to game at the other table|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh what an awful time to catch something|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe he cannot contain his excitement while waiting to see whether ir not 1@s will make|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: he was kind of moving his back|pg||
nt|gosia: getting oxygen for the long road ahead :)|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: and jumping some|pg||
nt|ybob: E make 7 tricks in NT|pg||
nt|dburn: but with things as they are, the whole match might turn on so trivial a thing as whether or not 1@s does mak|pg||
nt|gosia: now heart |pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|gosia: or Yassem misclaim 3 @c on bd 16 , unless we had the wrong ending|pg||
nt|gosia: good defense here - for sure|pg||
nt|ybob: play @H shows @S 1/1 , can duck, later J , @D ruff J and @S|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Martens and weichsel are both with eyes closed|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure declarer can do better than seven tricks from here, for one IMP to Rubin and a 1 IMP lead for Poland|pg||
nt|gosia: yes that will work - all that work for 1 s! - what a great game this is :)|pg||
nt|ybob: with stiff @H W play K @C and 10 @H , not 10 @C|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|fann4: Playing the 9 may lose when declarer wins the 10 and pitches another @H on a top @D, but it looks like 2 @H tricks are probably required to have a chance to beat it.|pg||
nt|bessi2: hold on.. this is going down now isnt it ?|pg||
pc|h9|nt|fann4: Yes, because put in the @D10 at trick 2.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
nt|dburn: now, how are we doing?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|sJ|nt|Vugraph7: The Rubin team will play 4 handed due to illness of rubin|pg||
nt|ybob: :)|pg||
mc|7|nt|Vugraph7: director is being called|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: time issue seems|pg||
nt|gosia: cheesh why- anyone would balance with 1 spade |pg||
nt|dburn: not a break in tempo, more the speed of play|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: asking me, oops|pg||
nt|gosia: pot calling the kettle....|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: how much time took each player etc|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SKQ4HAJDJ9CKQT842,S3HKQ864DAT8632C3,ST98765HT532D4CJ6,SAJ2H97DKQ75CA975|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|1N!|an|strong|nt|mareczek: action of Jassem was highly questionable|pg||
mb|4H|nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|mareczek: it is hard to see any advantage of nt contract vs. heart play|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: EW play weak NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|figb_rama: intanto, dopo 16 board (su 120), nella semifinale dei trials americani, Nickell-Jacobs 13-64. |pg||
nt|me argent: AND MORGAN AINT SELLING|pg||
nt|me argent: harris wants to pass but his 5@Ss give him pause|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|figb_rama: Per Jacobs giocano Zia-Rosemberg Jacobs-Katz Weistein-Garner|pg||
nt|me argent: down 100 imps i think passing has alot going for it|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mareczek: here 4@h helepd a little to reach a good club game|pg||
nt|mareczek: helped|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|h7|nt|chorush: On board 16. Garner-Weonstein reached 3 hearts which appears to be a make. If so, Jacobs will gain 5 imps on the first board of the new set|pg||
pc|hA|nt|me argent: a great opportunity to create action|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|me argent: now @D|pg||
pc|d3|nt|me argent: rgt|pg||
nt|me argent: with carefull defence can hold declare to 4 tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Ben Dickens from USA|pg||
nt|inquiry: hi|pg||
nt|me argent: harris made a really good decesion to pass 1ntx |pg||
nt|Walddk1: This match is a bit one-sided. I wonder if it will go the distance. What do you think guys?|pg||
nt|inquiry: I am late to this hand, but from here it looks fairly grim for the leaders... Harris will need more boards like this|pg||
nt|inquiry: on this hand|pg||
nt|Walddk1: This is segment 5 of 8|pg||
nt|inquiry: I think no one will want to withdraw with 30 boards left.... |pg||
nt|Walddk1: More than that Ben|pg||
nt|me argent: stansby martel are one of the few top pairs in america playing weak nt|pg||
nt|Walddk1: 8 segments|pg||
nt|inquiry: yes 120 in total |pg||
pc|h2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sT|nt|inquiry: i think the last segment would not be played.... if the lead is large..... but surely will go seven|pg||
nt|me argent: a greater % of canadians do because of the kokish influence|pg||
nt|me argent: now declarer will play on @Hs|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SKQ4HAJDJ9CKQT842,S3HKQ864DAT8632C3,ST98765HT532D4CJ6,SAJ2H97DKQ75CA975|sv|n|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma just told me|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: not a nice atmosphere here|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1N|nt|gosia: when I used to play with a World renowned slow player, she would always run up to the director , whenever we finshed early :)|pg||
nt|ybob: lucky slam @D|pg||
mb|2N|nt|avivs: but they did get to it|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: East has a 1NT rebid available, so he is happy to open 1@H. Playing a different range for the 1NT opener (and therefore the 1NT rebid), he would open 1NT instead.|pg||
nt|dburn: Verhees had a choice between a heavy 1NT overcall and a double that meant he would have to bid 2NT over 2@d (or even 2@c)|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Martin Johnson from Canada|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good day to all|pg||
nt|tez: hi:)|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3S|nt|avivs: 1@c is polish style - weak NT in this case|pg||
nt|gosia: wow - why did J bid here at these colors|pg||
nt|ybob: hard to bid slam , 5@D sure|pg||
mb|4D|nt|bjacobs: South is delighted with this development|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, North is now reluctant to sell out to 2@H when it seems that the points are equally divided. He hopes that West's spades are 10-x-x-x.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and so they are, but with two more to go with them|pg||
nt|dburn: well, his partner did overcall one natural no trump|pg||
nt|dburn: and he had some promising distribution|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: poland well started|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2nt invite :?|pg||
nt|bessi2: this should make|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Daivd:)|pg||
nt|fnickell: any chance they will bid slam?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: the blocked spades mean the defense has no easy route to defeating hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: All the defence will get here is @SAK and a @H|pg||
nt|gosia: Jacoby - GF raise - 4 trumps|pg||
nt|bessi2: although with no enemy bidding   perhaps he won't see the danger|pg||
mb|5D|nt|gosia: maybe now|pg||
nt|fnickell: any chance they will bid quickly|pg||
nt|gosia: no :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: interesting contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders should score two diamonds and one trick from each of the other suits.|pg||
nt|dburn: the thing about 3@s is that it takes a couple of bids from the opponents|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: but the spade 7 may take a trick|pg||
nt|fann4: I don't think it's Jacoby. They play a different major suit raise structure.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|brolucius: South might have false-carded the @H10, to encourage a continuation.|pg||
nt|dburn: in that case, 1@d is either a negative or a game force with no major, I guess|pg||
nt|caitlin: will he finesse clubs?|pg||
nt|ybob: first play @S to K|pg||
nt|dburn: but I am not sure that the Dutch are playing Standard Polish, or indeed whether the Polish are playing Standard Dutch (though in the latter case I would guess not)|pg||
nt|gosia: should get the @c right |pg||
nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|tez: poland teams lead2/4/6/8|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh, he did!|pg||
pc|h7|nt|dburn: @h3 is Standard Polish - middle from three cards, with or without an honor|pg||
nt|dburn: even in partner's suit|pg||
nt|tez:  he will make a safety play in @c s for south 4-1 @c (sing 8 or 9 in north) and down 2|pg||
nt|gosia: Martens was their coach|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fann4: No, but declarer must ruff a @H or a @C 1st now.|pg||
nt|fann4: Else 2 more rounds of trumps will leave him a trick short.|pg||
nt|josj: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Jos Jacobs from the Netherlands|pg||
nt|josj: goedenavond Jeff|pg||
nt|fann4: Goeie 'naand Jos:)|pg||
nt|bessi2: yeah.. needed x-ray vision to ruff the spade return with the ace of hearts|pg||
pc|h4|nt|bjacobs: Gee if only the @C6 and @C5 were swapped!|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bjacobs: Then declarer would be making this contract|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Now East has time to switch to diamonds.|pg||
nt|josj: looks nice this way :)|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he will get clubs wrong|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gosia: that wd make the 4 @h bid nuts ? :)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma "nasty players"     lol|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: after all, the 1@h bid did not mark North with @cQ|pg||
nt|fnickell: no reason to get clubs right|pg||
nt|avivs: other room is also in 3NT but without interference so South led a @s|pg||
nt|ybob: for that was better play @S to K first|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SQT964HA5DAK73CT8,S532H43DJT4CAJ973,SAJ87HJ87DQ5CKQ65,SKHKQT962D9862C42|sv|e|nt|bigtrain: 3@H at the other table ended -1 for a push|pg||
nt|me argent: was worried he had no entry|pg||
mb|1S|nt|me argent: good result NS|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2C is either blacks or majors|pg||
mb|2N!|an|9-13.   3 or 4 sp|mb|p|nt|me argent: dont like opening a weak 2 bid with a void|pg||
mb|4S|nt|frajerzyna: witam|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: ciê¿ko cokolwiek komentowaæ po takim meczu jak pi³karzy |pg||
nt|frajerzyna: ale tak w sporcie bywa|pg||
nt|mareczek: natural play is to finesse @sJ|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: zdecydowanie lepiej graæ dwa kier|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: N could try garbage Stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: partner can never evaluate his hand|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: i chyba da³o siê ten kontrakt osi¹gn¹æ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|me argent: besides S has a 1 @H bid |pg||
nt|inquiry: favorable vul, but I still would not overcall 2@S I don't think with such a weak suit.. I have a lot to learn obviously.. |pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|mareczek: and after the worst response of 2@d bid 2@h showing weak hand with 4-4 in majors|pg||
pc|sT|nt|me argent: 2@S overcall does show values but the vul and fear of losing the @S suit drove martel into the auction|pg||
nt|mareczek: it is now very popular treatment in Poland|pg||
pc|s2|nt|inquiry: their unfavorable preempts are very sound....|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: mamy nawet wsparcie w obcym jêzyku|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|me argent: i really dislike 2@Hs on that south hand|pg||
nt|mareczek: Jassem made a nice trick|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h6|nt|me argent: but it will should turn out all rgt|pg||
nt|inquiry: multi 2@D opened at the other table, so essentially 2@H there also|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
mc|10|nt|inquiry: that last trick didn't look right|pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SQT964HA5DAK73CT8,S532H43DJT4CAJ973,SAJ87HJ87DQ5CKQ65,SKHKQT962D9862C42|sv|e|nt|brolucius: East has a count on declarer's heart and club tricks, so should not duck a spade. It would be a bad mistake.|pg||
nt|sunsamvar: right David|pg||
nt|zlatanov: it would have been easier to reach 6 if E could open 1N|pg||
mb|1S|nt|tez: do you open with jassem hand..in this výuln at 3rd seat?|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Lesniewski moving some around the room, said his cold!|pg||
nt|fann4: Definitely|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@H here seems normal|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Oh, I see, East did not know about the @H8. Well, that is true.|pg||
nt|gosia: 3h|pg||
nt|avivs: 1-2-4|pg||
nt|dburn: it would have been easier to reach six if North had not bid 3@s|pg||
mb|2C|nt|gosia: trnsfer to @c|pg||
nt|gosia: true|pg||
mb|p|nt|josj: they play 12-14?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: clear opener any seat|pg||
nt|fann4: I wouldn't open 1NT, on 11pts in 3rd seat.|pg||
nt|tez: 2@c=majors|pg||
nt|josj: hi Tezcan|pg||
nt|tez: hi jos:)|pg||
nt|tez: J|pg||
nt|fann4: Verhees's play was quite reasonable there. If S had only 4@D he might have been ok.|pg||
nt|tez: 4@c?|pg||
nt|tez: 1@h limited 11 15|pg||
nt|avivs: needs too much from partner for slam why help opponents on defense|pg||
nt|ybob: 1nt for S kill the slam|pg||
mb|2S|nt|josj: not easy for EW to get to 4@S now|pg||
nt|fann4: E will dbl if it goes pass, pass back to him.|pg||
nt|josj: 1NT is 12-14 non vul. |pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: This auction is not a good advertisement for 2/1 methods|pg||
nt|bjacobs: North is gestucken|pg||
nt|brolucius: Why is that? He can raise or cue-bid.|pg||
nt|fann4: Opening 1NT 3rd in hand on this sort of hand is waiting to be clobbered.|pg||
nt|gosia: Caitlin ? noalert on 1@S ?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3h works if partner has heart stop otherwise leaves you scrambling|pg||
nt|tez: 1@s=@c's transfer sistem|pg||
nt|zlatanov: it is easier to bid over 1@C than over 1N|pg||
mb|4S|nt|josj: good bid by Marcin, removes any doubt|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: what for after 2@c bid ? tell defense your hand ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 4th trump very important in competition|pg||
nt|josj: slam try now but West will sign off|pg||
nt|bessi2: ns make 3n with the cards lying very friendly|pg||
nt|gosia: only 8 tricks in NT - but long heart entryless...|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: Hi all, srry for being ate|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The raise doesn't do justice to his hand, and he has nothing really good to cue bid|pg||
nt|gracelin: late|pg||
nt|bjacobs: (Even if it is a cue-bid)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So an excellent slam whithers on the vine|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Patrick Huang, the Taiwanese all time great|pg||
nt|gosia: :) |pg||
nt|caitlin: agree Avivs- he should be happy to have had East bid @S and bid 4@H|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gracelin: agree that 4H didn't do justice to his hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: Thanks Roland.  Pleasure to be here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But what is he to do?  Maybe he should just Blackwood|pg||
nt|brolucius: North could have cue-bid 4@C. Why not? He had limited his hand by bidding 1NT at his first turn.|pg||
nt|tez: i know martens:)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: Is 4@C a cue or natural?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Blackwood is too much, I would say.|pg||
nt|bessi2: a very sensible stop by jassem-martens.. excellent judgment|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ybob: 4@C works if opps bids 4@S , not for slam try|pg||
nt|caitlin: how often we feel we must take our trump King when it is doubleton|pg||
nt|avivs: even if partner has the @dA and a @h honor they are probably not going to bid beyond game after: 4@c-4@d-4@h|pg||
nt|tez: whats your choise here?q or t?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|gracelin: I thk their agreement is both 4C/4D are cue.  If not I wud at least bid 5H|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|gosia: must have been transfer to @c's|pg||
pc|hK|nt|avivs: and they also need to have long diamonds or short spades|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|bjacobs: Well I stick with my first point: not a good advertisement for 2/1|pg||
nt|brolucius: It doesn't seem worthwhile to play four of a minor as natural when partner has shown a big two-suiter.|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|sunsamvar: now that Patrick is here it is time for my a'noon nap.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|gracelin: ok Sunil, but welcome back anytime|pg||
nt|sunsamvar: bye all. |pg||
nt|tez: he thought 3@c was forcing|pg||
nt|fann4: I'm not sure how about the nuances here. Would S have gone on with just 3 bare aces, for example.|pg||
nt|tez: after cue|pg||
nt|gosia: well he shd listen to his partner :)|pg||
nt|fann4: And surely N meant 3C as forcing|pg||
pc|s2|nt|bessi2: jassem-martens perhaps not on the same wavelength here as to whether 3clubs was forcing.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s8|nt|bessi2: verhees can safely return a low diamond now it seems|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s9|nt|fann4: Big swing to RUB on bd 2, where W made a non forcing 2@C response to 1@D. Cannot understand why E passed with a singleton @C and 7 @D though.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|tez: 5 now|pg||
pc|c8|nt|bessi2: either that or a heart switch is needed to defeat 5cl|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|gosia: maked no diff as W has to duck - a rather weird play otherwise :)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|tez: @d was suit pereferance|pg||
nt|tez: @d2|pg||
nt|bessi2: as has been pointed out to me.. verhees should  perhaps have returned a higer diamond SP.. did he really want a heart back ?|pg||
nt|gosia: he knows Martens has Ace from redouble|pg||
mc|10|nt|gosia: 1st rd control|pg||
pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SKJT96HT43D96CT72,S753HKD542CAQJ964,SQ42HJ9875DQJ8C83,SA8HAQ62DAKT73CK5|sv|b|nt|me argent: GO HARRIS|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|inquiry: harris is on a small run... three plus boards out of three and net gain of 15 imps.. .still a very long way to go... |pg||
mb|3D!|nt|me argent: they are on a roll just how they needed to start|pg||
nt|inquiry: Ekelblad started with a bang yesterday in the first set|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|ccba: ÕâÂÖ½áÊøºóÊÇÍí²ÍÊ±¼ä|pg||
nt|ccba: µÚ6ÂÖÔÚ19£º00¿ªÊ¼|pg||
nt|ccba: µÚ6ÂÖ ×ª²¥¡¾Ì«²Ö½ð»Ô vs ÉÏº£Ê¥ÌÕÉ³¡¿|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|ndemirev: This must be a "good" opening hand by Meckwell standards  |pg||
mb|6C|nt|me argent: NS play forcing @C it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i think jeff would still show it as a minmum  :-)|pg||
nt|inquiry: 6@D might have a play somedays, not on this layout however... 3NT is the spot|pg||
nt|inquiry: yes they play "inverted polished club"|pg||
nt|inquiry: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&event=USBC&pid=572|pg||
nt|inquiry: that link is a system summary|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: wygl¹da na 100 dla WE|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|me argent: is that american to play that system?|pg||
nt|inquiry: the 3@D was bid by north|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|inquiry: the auction has to be undone|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|me argent: 11 tricks ashould not present a problem|pg||
pc|cA|nt|inquiry: looks like 5@D, 2@C, 3@S, and 1@H for two overtricks.. np... |pg||
nt|frajerzyna: czy ktoœ moze podpowiedziec Jassemowi ¿e kibice nie wytrzymuj¹ z emocji>|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|cT|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: ja w ka¿dym razie w przeciwienstwie do zawodników moge zrobic przerwe na papierosa|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: co niniejszym czyniê|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|mc|13|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SKJT96HT43D96CT72,S753HKD542CAQJ964,SQ42HJ9875DQJ8C83,SA8HAQ62DAKT73CK5|sv|b|nt|brolucius: After 1@S - 2@D - 2@H, North has much the same problem.|pg||
nt|sunsamvar: Hope that you have an interesting session|pg||
nt|gracelin: but after he raises to 3H, South knows what to do|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Not at all, he can bid 3@H if forcing, or 4@H, and South knows the nature of his hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: Bye, Sunil.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Here, he could have xx-Kxxx-Kxxx-xxx|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Jassem takes some time in putting the new board, so Martnes says NEXT  pls|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes on board 2 3NT was made with overtrick|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: well bid in the open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: Jasem was playing to shuffle cards:)|pg||
nt|fann4: Bd 18 identical play. So no swings on the 1st 2 boards.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|gracelin: 6S makes on the SQ finesse|pg||
nt|Walddk3: NS playing two different systems, depending on vulnerability|pg||
nt|Walddk3: I have found both for you. Please keep them|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/ynk8p2   Martens-Jassem NV|pg||
nt|fann4: Apparently it was South who opened 1@D on bd 2 in the OR, which explains the bidding.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/2cvxfj   Martens-Jassem VUL|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|fann4: Though I'd expect to see RUB gain on bd 19.|pg||
nt|bessi2: interesting north hand over 1d opener.. do you prefer a 2cl overcall followed by a dbl or an immediate dbl as jassem |pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bjacobs: and the nice black suit breaks|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: now Weichsel knows pd has bad hand..because he has 4 card trump|pg||
nt|tez: @s|pg||
nt|fann4: Most experts would overcall on the 4 card @S here, but it's not going to turn out well.|pg||
nt|josj: good lead, a trump|pg||
nt|dburn: very tough in this one, following West's initial pass|pg||
nt|gosia: should be a push|pg||
nt|dburn: should it?|pg||
mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: 4@D choose a major partner, 6@S seems to fail with suit 4-1|pg||
nt|tez: now @d?|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: EW are in 4@S doubled on bd 19. |pg||
nt|caitlin: count here on @H very important by W so East doesn't set up @HQ|pg||
nt|gosia: honor lead vs NT most experts play A/Q asks for attitude - K unblock or count|pg||
nt|tez: wd:)ty|pg||
nt|gosia: I would think Peter showed a hand too good for a preempt, so has to have an outside card|pg||
nt|dburn: well, West did what he could, but he did not stress that club suit|pg||
mb|3S|mb|d|nt|brolucius: That's right. Not a good slam, and unlikely they will bid it.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|brolucius: East has the chance to cue-bid now, on his way to 4@S.|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: i think 6s can make.. ruff the diamond lead and play a low heart to q..  |pg||
nt|fann4: Close between a t/o dbl or @C first. I prefer dbl - pard may pass 2@C with @SKxxxx or something, and we could miss a game.|pg||
nt|bessi2: if ducked then u can draw trumps and got 5 trumps.. 6clubs and 1 heart|pg||
mb|4C|nt|gracelin: even if they try, they will find the trump Q is missing.  Deppo is a more discipline eam than Nan Yuan|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes but double dummy line|pg||
nt|fann4: I think 4@S is the underbid of the year. |pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: expect 12 tricks here|pg||
nt|gosia: still only 6 tricks|pg||
mb|5N|nt|ybob: 6@C now|pg||
nt|gosia: pick a slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 4@s is perfect contrat for e-w but not so easy to bid.i prefer balancing 2@s from west|pg||
mb|6C|nt|bessi2: indeed it is.. i guess declarer would have tried qj of spades first  but can then play a heart  still makes|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: another trump..dummy dead|pg||
nt|josj: R.I.P.|pg||
nt|josj: W does not know that N overcalled on 4-crd only|pg||
nt|tez: Lesniewski hopes pd has 1 trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: weischsel may eventually run out of exit cards however|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: this makes leading from KQx the only awkward holding|pg||
mb|p|pc|s4|nt|tez: best defense..duck @d..|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h2|nt|caitlin: Jansma clearly asking for @S switch|pg||
nt|ybob: A@C & K @S now|pg||
nt|caitlin: high @H first|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Margie Gwozdzinsky from USA|pg||
pc|hK|nt|gracelin: declarer is not happy to see SQ falling|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|gracelin: brb|pg||
nt|zlatanov: last quarter EW lost a swing after failing to open with a good long suit, here they will stay even|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|gosia: Hi all :)|pg||
nt|tez: take next dia, switch @h. pard plays last trump and kills dummy|pg||
nt|tez: hi:)|pg||
nt|granguru: @H3 to beat  by 2|pg||
nt|fann4: There seems to be so much happening in this match, in both rooms, also from the 1st set, that it's hard to keep up with things.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gosia: I See the Poles had an accident on Bd 2 - undisciplined pass of a 2/1 in the other room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: apparently the auction on the movie is wrong|pg||
nt|gosia: Kibbitzers all :) tell me bidding is wrong in Movie|pg||
nt|tez: right now all ways down 2|pg||
nt|gosia: I was surprised - also surprised Skrzypczek passed in 1st position :)|pg||
nt|ybob: same with Qxx @H |pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|gosia: oops|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|gosia: those types of hands need to get into auction early|pg||
nt|fann4: Agreed, and he paid for it.|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|d3|nt|gosia: Sorry to take us back, but just got here, and was reviewing what I had missed|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|gosia: nice recovery|pg||
nt|zlatanov: that time they opened 4@H at the other table while Lesniewski passed|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3ST87HAK4DA863CT76,SQJ653HQJ96DCAQJ8,SK9H73DKQT97CK532,SA42HT852DJ542C94|sv|n|nt|me argent: will see how good NS slam bidding is|pg||
mb|1D|nt|inquiry: you may see a 2@C opening here|pg||
mb|p|nt|inquiry: not part of normal polish|pg||
mb|2C!|an|inverted minor|mb|d|nt|inquiry: their 2@C and 2@D opening bids are STRONG|pg||
nt|inquiry: 2@D being the stronger I believe|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|me argent: 6@Hs or even7 on a finess is even better 4 the trailing team a good opportunity|pg||
mb|3D|nt|inquiry: MArtin and Jacob devised this system themselves.... |pg||
mb|d|nt|bigtrain: 1NT shows 18-19 here|pg||
nt|inquiry: 4@C is by North.... |pg||
nt|me argent: i hope so|pg||
nt|inquiry: yes|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|inquiry: 2@C opening shows about 18 to 21 HCP, with at least: (a) a 5+ card major or, (b) a 6+ card minor and shortness somewhere. Rarely it’s stronger (10+ tricks in your own hand, at ...|pg||
nt|inquiry: least 5-5 in s plus a Major). Never 4-4-3-2 or 4-3-3-3 (we’d open 1 with that) |pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: X = negative (4@S)|pg||
nt|me argent: on a @S lead this is a 5 or 7 hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: apparently ever bid has been alerted|pg||
nt|inquiry: 5-5 in @Ds and major that should have been....|pg||
nt|me argent: every|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: can they? will they bid7?|pg||
nt|inquiry: would you bid the grand here trailing by so many? When behind, these opportunities are golden... you just wish you were vul!!!!|pg||
nt|me argent: 7 is excellent|pg||
nt|me argent: on the same finess that 6 is on|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h6|pc|d7|nt|me argent: that is in @Hs only|pg||
nt|inquiry: I am uncertain of 4@S.. maybe a denial cue-bid? I would guess 4@C showed @Hs....|pg||
nt|me argent: 6nt is strictly on a finess|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|inquiry: This doesn't  seem right... 5@H must be forcing... can't ask for ACES and then stop.. .maybe 4@S was kickback.....|pg||
pc|sK|nt|frajerzyna: DW sec pik zapewnia realizacjê kontraktu|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c9|nt|inquiry: This is a problem.. .the summary sheet isn't very complete.. where is full disclosure program when you need it|pg||
nt|me argent: it doesnt matter if we know but it does matter that NS know|pg||
nt|inquiry: well 5@H has to be forcing.. that much is clear|pg||
nt|me argent: a lost opportunity 4 NS|pg||
nt|inquiry: I guess 4@S was kickback for @hs, 4NT was 5 keycards, and 5@D was a @D asking bid|pg||
nt|inquiry: 4NT 4 keycards|pg||
nt|inquiry: 5@H was no king of @Ds|pg||
nt|inquiry: that would make sense and explain 4@S bid|pg||
pc|cT|nt|inquiry: all that is based on 4@C showing @Hs... of course.... the 2@C bid if not balanced includes a long major as a possibility|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3ST87HAK4DA863CT76,SQJ653HQJ96DCAQJ8,SK9H73DKQT97CK532,SA42HT852DJ542C94|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: took a while to reach the inevitable :)|pg||
nt|fann4: Here is a big chance for POL to pick up imps. In the OR, Jansma/Verhees, with a lot of artificial machinery, had an accident and stopped in 4@S.|pg||
nt|ybob: 4º@H + @D squeezed to N|pg||
mb|1D|nt|tez: 7@s coming:)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The Dutch had a serious RKC misunderstanding here and stopped in game where grand slam better than 90%|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: other table also passed out in 1NT|pg||
mb|2D|nt|fann4: Think 4@Sx on bd 19 in the OR went 2 down.|pg||
nt|dburn: may or may not be a gain to Poland - East-West can do OK in a black suit|pg||
nt|tez: 2@h..majors|pg||
nt|avivs: and first 2 tricks are the same also|pg||
mb|d|nt|fann4: 12 imps if they bid 6@S, and 17 imps if they reach the grand.|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Well, we have had our excitement on some of the previous board (possible slams). Now we must sit and watch 1NT. Oh, South has raised.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and North is thinking!|pg||
nt|tez: 3@s or 4@h?|pg||
nt|gosia: pin point bidding|pg||
nt|caitlin: very disicplined 3@H|pg||
nt|dburn: Jansma will wonder who was stealing from whom|pg||
nt|dburn: South trying for 3NT|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bessi2: indeed.. had 4 tricks on the defense with the ace of trumps still to come  |pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Both the black tens look useful, it is true.|pg||
nt|gosia: on bd 19 Gierulski bid Michaels - which I don't like with that suit discrepancy|pg||
nt|fann4: So 12 imps to RUB, not 6.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this hand reminds me of two slams helgemo and helness bid yesterday|pg||
nt|tez: 2nt forcing relay..balanced|pg||
nt|bessi2: another routine game for jassem-martens|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Yes, it's not that big an overbid|pg||
nt|bjacobs: a "little" overbid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Having thought, he has passed (of course). He barely had an opening bid in the first place.|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: this will end happily, via the diamond finesse|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i like the splinter, simplifies most auctions|pg||
nt|fann4: Key Card will find the @CK, but is that enough?|pg||
nt|tez: 5@s 5nt 6@c 7@s|pg||
nt|josj: my idea :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a terrifying slam?|pg||
nt|bessi2: hehe.. don't think so.. at most a scary 5s making|pg||
nt|fann4: I think the late Sonny Moyse once said in a similar situation '10xxxx and KJxxxx is not 2 suits. It is one suit and one abomination'.|pg||
nt|dburn: and he got there|pg||
nt|gosia: will go down there also|pg||
pc|h8|nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|tez: 2@h meaning : it shows arranged order in @h and @s:)|pg||
nt|gosia: he has just enough to make N/S entry unlikely|pg||
nt|dburn: but the truth is that no one was stealing from anyone|pg||
pc|hK|nt|josj: this should also work|pg||
nt|Walddk3: 6@C asking for club king|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Since Martens can't be short in clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk3: He already showed shortage in hearts|pg||
nt|fann4: Yes, the @CK is sufficient, with at least 3 trumps and short @H.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: cant count 13 tricks for sure without club jack as well|pg||
nt|fann4: This must be a variation of KC I don't know. Usually, 5NT asks for specific Kings, and suits at the 6 level are for 3rd rd control.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is the second time we seem to be seeing singleton showing over relays|pg||
nt|gosia: but will gain Imps|pg||
nt|dburn: down? how?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: the "usual" 3N  with half the HCP...|pg||
nt|gosia: let's see - 5 d- 2h-and....|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|Walddk3: well done|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c8|nt|fann4: POL ahead 17-12 now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@C says that is side suit needing substantial help, kantar wrote about that in original series on KCB|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Martens is putting the dummy meanwhile in the other side of the screen|pg||
nt|tez: if martens without j ot @c..but has the possibility to become master of his pard's @d or a @c ruff to table if Martens has 4cm trumps|pg||
nt|fann4: Yes, many chances for 13 tricks even without the @CJ.|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: east asking some questions|pg||
nt|gosia: Peter is trying not to lead a trump - may need to take away option in Diamonds at trick 1|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Difficult lead for East, a spectator points out. Indeed it is, but as it is here, he can lead his right shoe, doesn't matter|pg||
pc|d7|nt|gosia: Yesterday Hellness overcalled 1@s with KJ10xx,KJ10xx - but later went for 1100 when bid too much|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gosia: he heard me :)|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gosia: I hate the 2 suited bids,gives so much info to declearer if defending|pg||
nt|fann4: Hellness overcalled 1@S and then backed in later with 4@H, as opposed to showing a 2 suiter immediately (if it was available).|pg||
nt|gosia: Helgemo had the wrong dummy :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: you forgot to mention the good slam bid at other table failed on 4-1 trump break|pg||
nt|gosia: that's true |pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|fann4: With @H 3-3 declarer can afford to play any @C from dummy at trick 1.|pg||
nt|gosia: if plays diamonds to block now - what does Peter pitch ?|pg||
pc|d6|nt|gosia: we will know in 5 minutes :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|fann4: E has to take this trick to hold declarer to 12 tricks.|pg||
nt|dburn: four cards, each a little slower than the one before|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gosia: should play him for club 10 , unlike an anonymous friend who in a high stakes rubber pridge game had KQxxx vs A9x in 7NT - got J lead and did not finesse|pg||
nt|fabsayc: verhess needs to play ace and another club to protect spade queen|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|tez: In our village mostly received lead is a trump v GrandSlam|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|brolucius: If West did hold the @DK (giving the defenders three spades and a spade), he would have had to do something more dynamic at Trick 1, to set up two heart tricks for the defence.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: very happily - the defence have thrown an overtrick|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c7|pg||
nt|zlatanov: after this successful sacrifice against 3@H, the lead will double|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: ...and a diamond...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: or two|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: i think if in six would have made it|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SK9765HKQDK3CAKQ7,SQ82H632DT9CJ9853,ST4HJT98DQ764CT62,SAJ3HA754DAJ852C4|sv|e|mb|1D|nt|gregpog: witam|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 11+ BAL, @H stopped|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: helo³|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|inquiry: a quiet 2@H here... this will be touch and go... the defense seems to be on the correct track.... |pg||
nt|inquiry: So I will predict down one... as there are a lot of spades to be won by EW here.... |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|inquiry: Ekeblad will break through for their first positive score of the set, as 2@Dx made at the other table.. question is will it be 2 imps or 5 imps|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: tu krótka gra bêdzie|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: w zasadzie juz moglaby sie zakonczyc|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|nt|landen: Zia's tricky lead probably would have paid off if Michael hadn't gone up|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|nt|inquiry: If chip wins this one, have to be careful not to play 2nd round of clubs until after the three spades are cashed.... |pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c7|nt|inquiry: now, nothing helps.. this is down one....|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SK9765HKQDK3CAKQ7,SQ82H632DT9CJ9853,ST4HJT98DQ764CT62,SAJ3HA754DAJ852C4|sv|e|nt|vugraph bo: north discard a heart actually, so 9 tricks|pg||
nt|brolucius: Must be an optical illusion, but East seems to have been the dealer rather often.|pg||
nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|josj: they have at least four bridge players up there?|pg||
nt|josj: :)|pg||
nt|avivs: just another PAR board|pg||
nt|dburn: East-West, who have ten trumps, have nine tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South, who have nine trumps, also have nine tricks|pg||
nt|gosia: finally board 22|pg||
nt|gosia: and its midnight EST|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|nt|gosia: Makes it automatic to bid 7 missing the queen :)|pg||
nt|josj: right!|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Now East will have visions of a high heart contract.|pg||
nt|inquiry: EDT|pg||
mb|1H|nt|gosia: nice dummy|pg||
nt|avivs: will need to guess clubs to make it|pg||
nt|gosia: now to guess club to make it|pg||
mb|p|nt|fnickell: the ACBL should get serious about enforcing the rules they have about timelyness.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|tez: expass or pass hand|pg||
nt|avivs: finesse to the Q and not ruffing finesse|pg||
nt|ybob: very nice Q @C at trick 3 by Peter ( board 4 )|pg||
nt|janm: If we didn't have clients we wouldn't have as many expert players. Sure IF we could send a team of our 3 top pro's it would be better, but then we wouldn't have those 3 top pro ...|pg||
nt|janm: pairs available because they'd have to earn a living some other way|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2@S is a dubious bid|pg||
nt|bjacobs: MUCH prefer 3@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: North might perhaps have bid 3@S at his first turn, rather than think now.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now he's uncomfortable|pg||
nt|brolucius: Snap, Bill!|pg||
nt|gracelin: North now regrets his early 2S raise|pg||
nt|bjacobs: double snap|pg||
nt|fabsayc: too good for 2nt? or wrong shape?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: With four-card support (and expecting five spades opposite), it is normal to jump-raise. With nine trumps, you can compete to the nine-trick level.|pg||
mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|fann4: This can go down on a @D lead.|pg||
nt|gosia: Peter Weichsel - Marcin Lesniewski - sorry kibbitzers - thought everyone can click on player and see full name|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|bjacobs: this is a possible phantom sacrifice|pg||
nt|fann4: Very good. The @S10 switch will seal declarer's fate.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is, in some ways, the worst lead for the defense|pg||
nt|ybob: ruffing finesse work with @D 4/2 if AQ AK or KQ|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch all 3 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|bjacobs: East is searching for @DJ in 4@H|pg||
nt|dburn: because whatever declarer does in clubs, he cannot actually fail in 4@h|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fann4: Prefer bidding 1@H then jumping in @D.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gosia: me too|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|dburn: since the diamonds are blocked|pg||
pc|s5|nt|gracelin: may o only -1 now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now king of clubs (not the ace).|pg||
nt|gracelin: East has better ducked the HJ if they play J denies|pg||
pc|s2|nt|gosia: need to hear what's going on|pg||
nt|gosia: here saw pard had some values so could jump around|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|josj: so a chance missed by EW here...|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
nt|gosia: nice scissor type thingie :)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer hopes for two diamond ruffs in dummy, so he is setting up that possibility rather than drawing trumps. |pg||
nt|dburn: good shift|pg||
nt|gosia: North south have the same first name so thats no problem - Krzysztof (Christopher):)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|sA|nt|gracelin: not sure whether West's S8 will become a trick in the end|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|dburn: unfortunately...|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gosia: Sorry to use first names, but I know Weichsel(Peter) for 40 years|pg||
pc|hK|nt|Vugraph7: verhees played a spade in this trick|pg||
nt|gosia: he did claim - or is snoozing ?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|tez: for trump lead to GS..i cannot say that i admit to ours. prefer to think throughout|pg||
nt|fann4: Lost connection. Was saying of course @S switch impossible to find. In the OR West overcalled in @S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this was a good hand for attitude leads, west starting a high diamond spot|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
mc|7|nt|janm: Since I managed to go "public" with a private message, I'll answer someone's question about why Ekeblad and Rubin aren't playing today - Rubin has been sick for several days and ...|pg||
nt|janm: finally went to a doctor and was told to stay in bed.|pg||
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qx|o23|st||md|1SKQJ6H842DQ973CQ9,SA72HKT93D8CAJT62,S5HAQJ76DT652C843,ST9843H5DAKJ4CK75|sv|b|mb|p|nt|picix: spoko|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|landen: Zia must think he's back at the rubber bridge table, defending every hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|maticm4: czeœæ Piotrek, witam wszystkich:)|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: w 5 Grzesiek Narkiewicz gra³ 5 karo|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: i trafi³ trefla|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: wiêc remis chocia¿ ¿adna z par nie znalaz³a kontraktu 4 pik|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|ccba: ´ó¼ÒºÃ|pg||
nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚÊÇÑ­»·ÈüµÄµÚ5ÂÖ|pg||
nt|inquiry: ended up being 7 imps.... my math skills are poor.... |pg||
nt|maticm4: EKO_AL coraz bardziej traci impy zdobyte w pierwszych dwóch segmentach|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2H shows 5-5+, fairly widr range|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ccba: ±ÈÈüÔÚÌ«²Ö¾ÙÐÐ|pg||
mb|p|nt|landen: 4@h makes E-W, so this is a cheap save|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ccba: Ê×½ìÌ«²Öº£Ï¿Á½°¶ÇÅÅÆÑûÇëÈü|pg||
mb|p|nt|ccba: 16¶Ó²ÎÈü|pg||
nt|ccba: 10¶ÓÀ´×ÔÌ¨Íå£¬6¶ÓÀ´×Ô´óÂ½|pg||
mb|p|nt|ccba: Ã¿ÂÖ´ò10¸±ÅÆ|pg||
nt|ccba: http://www.ccba.org.cn/action/game.php?id=27&action=g_result|pg||
nt|inquiry: 1@C followed by 1NT is too strong for 1NT opener (14+-17), |pg||
pc|s5|nt|frajerzyna: vugraph mo¿esz wyjaœniæ wynik?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|inquiry: 2@C was puppet stayman if I remember correctly from yesterday... |pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚ´ó¼Ò¿´µ½µÄÊÇ2Ö§À´×ÔÌ¨ÍåµÄ¶ÓÎéÔÚ±ÈÈü|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: wydaje mi siê ¿e w rozdaniu 5 powinien byæ remis|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|ccba: ÇÅÒÕÌÃ¶Ó vs ¾Å¾ÅA¶Ó|pg||
pc|d8|nt|maticm4: jest remis? 5 karo swoje 3 nt swoje|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: w pogl¹dzie Narkiewicz zagra³ trefla do króla wiêc powinno byæ 5@D swoje|pg||
nt|maticm4: ale jest chyba 5 karo swoje|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: hi all|pg||
pc|dA|nt|inquiry: This is  a good lead.. the danger is 1@S, 2@H and 1@D loser... but there are plenty of chances as Chip is likely to be endplayed... |pg||
nt|frajerzyna: ³atwiej gra³oby siê 2 karo|pg||
nt|maticm4: tak, zdecydowanie|pg||
nt|maticm4: jednak 2 pik te¿ jest szansowne|pg||
pc|d7|nt|bigtrain: hey kit|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: kier daje obronie szansê na obk³adkê|pg||
nt|picix: no có¿... Napewno zyskowne|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: Jassem widaæ czyta "wist rozmowa ...."|pg||
nt|maticm4: hehe:)|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: wie ¿e autor œledzi poczynania|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d2|pg||
nt|landen: hi kit, tough loss last night|pg||
nt|kit: ty|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SKQJ6H842DQ973CQ9,SA72HKT93D8CAJT62,S5HAQJ76DT652C843,ST9843H5DAKJ4CK75|sv|b|nt|brolucius: It just shows that you cannot be precise in these heart-spade competitive auctions. If North had bid the 3@S, that we all preferred, East would have bid 4@H and it is not at all ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: obvious who (if anyone) would then contest to 4@S. I expect both North and South would then pass. Still, 4@S might have been taken for 300 and 4@H is on a guess.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But taking it further, the 3@S preempt would have probably guided declarer correctly in 4@H|pg||
nt|bjacobs: As it has turned out, North "unilateralized" rather well|pg||
nt|gosia: Because it was wrong :) ?|pg||
nt|gosia: with Rubin - Ekeblad out , will be endurance contest - as both playing 4 handed now|pg||
nt|tez: magnificent:)|pg||
nt|dburn: what was?|pg||
nt|tez: in fact martens must start with @h J but he thought it could be shame|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: and neither North or south will take the push to 4S|pg||
nt|gosia: he has pneumonia actually|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|avivs: small pickup coming for Rubin on board 5.. the Poles got to 4@hX|pg||
mb|d|mb|2H|nt|brolucius: 2@D is hard to understand.|pg||
nt|gracelin: that D suit is not an intemediate jump overcall for me |pg||
mb|d|nt|gosia: Ig high diamond led , Peter may not get up the King |pg||
nt|tez: hard choise for Verh|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: hi all|pg||
mb|4S|nt|bjacobs: weird indeed\|pg||
nt|gosia: hi Kit Woolsey :) -they like us to use full names here :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|gracelin: or he pulled the wrong card, 2D instead of 1D|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nothing like any sort of 2@D overcall. 1@D was obvious.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: if|pg||
nt|fann4: A Precision type 2@C opening.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Whatever strength a jump to 2@D shows, in your system, it should be made on a good suit.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Your playing strength in diamonds should compare favourable to your defence. Here West has low playing strength and huge defence.|pg||
nt|gracelin: maybe he saw a 1S opening by south, but even though 2D is not my cup of tea|pg||
nt|josj: yes it is, but W found only lead to give def. a chance at all :(   bridge remains a beautiful game, exactly for this reason|pg||
nt|fann4: Why couldn't S have had a 5 card @S suit? It's not at all clear.|pg||
nt|fnickell: hi Kit|pg||
pc|h4|nt|josj: true too...|pg||
nt|gosia: tough hand for west - I wd almost balance with 1NT|pg||
pc|hT|nt|wygbe1: all vul|pg||
nt|tez: very simple game in double dummy,play @d J and go home|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2nt 6 clubs minimum, no major, probably balanced also|pg||
nt|kit: to have a chance here, declarer will have to take a first round triple spade finesse -- and then guess the queen of clubs|pg||
nt|kit: More likely he will just cash ace of spade, which is better when North has stiff honor|pg||
nt|kit: unfortunate for E-W that  South had raised -- otherwise, they probably would have had West declare|pg||
pc|s5|nt|gosia: yup|pg||
nt|kit: This solves the spade problem sort of, but the force is deadly|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|gosia: E will get tapped out on @h plays for down 1 - and 2 if misguesses clubs|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|zlatanov: at the other table W hid his 5 spades and opened 2@C|pg||
nt|gosia: all the stray queens are in the unlikely place|pg||
nt|gosia: which hand ?|pg||
nt|kit: Seems pretty routine for South to continue a heart here|pg||
nt|kit: sorry, declarer is in|pg||
nt|ybob: X by W shows 3@S but not like with K109X @H|pg||
nt|mrdct: the pace of play here is nothing short of pathetic|pg||
nt|gosia: If I was J/M I'd call the director back to complain about speed - but they are too much gentlemen :)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fann4: Vul, this is going to cost EW here|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|gosia: Ronnie's not well - we don't know what the problem|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|bessi2: this will be -2 it seems|pg||
nt|fann4: That @S discard from dummy can lead to 4 down now.|pg||
nt|bessi2: ahhhhh  sry... i though the contract was 3clubs  hehe|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ybob: home|pg||
nt|avivs: or this way|pg||
nt|gosia: here's a nice single dummy variant|pg||
nt|avivs: well done|pg||
nt|tez: nicely played|pg||
nt|tez: brilant|pg||
nt|gosia: punish M for not leading Q|pg||
nt|caitlin: Yes indeed|pg||
nt|avivs: of course he wouldn't have that play available if Martens just led the @sQ|pg||
nt|gosia: with no quick entry|pg||
nt|tez: brilliant|pg||
nt|avivs: on Board 6 Lesniewski passed the South hand and E/W got to 4@s|pg||
nt|avivs: which wasn't even doubled|pg||
nt|tez: brb|pg||
nt|avivs: so a pickup for the Poles on board 6|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Verhees "spade is your best play"|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|gosia: Unusual for Peter to play quickly :), but I also only get upset if my partner makes a mistake too quickly|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|dburn: oh, it's about seven lengths short of pathetic - pathetic has jumped the last fence and is heading for home|pg||
nt|gosia: lol|pg||
nt|kit: I must admit I have no idea what he is thinking about now -- what else can he do but play a spade and later hope the queen of hearts is onside?|pg||
nt|mrdct: as nick nickell commented a board ago (about 20 minutes ago) the ACBL really should do something about this|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: diamond lead was a double sucess, not sure the reasoning however|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: lol|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|gracelin: now everybody knows West was bidding 2D on 3A and a King and a Axxxx suit|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|bessi2: going for a cool -400 now it seems|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gracelin: in fact the hand belngs to NS for 3NT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|fann4: Can't see how E can be criticised for returning a @D. For all he knew, partner could have had 5 of them.|pg||
nt|tez: how do you proceed to 2 @h? when pard overcalled with spades..may pass|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Vugraph7: good!!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: one of the big flaws in precision, verhees had to guess whether to pass or bid|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: sorry misck|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|gosia: Martens can claim |pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|kit: this is impressive, but South still gets the last three tricks|pg||
mc|9|nt|kit: Does anybody have any idea what declarer was playing for there?|pg||
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qx|o24|st||md|2SJ95H8DKQJCKQJ865,SKT76HT63DA53CA43,SQ42HQ52DT764CT97,SA83HAKJ974D982C2|sv|o|nt|ccba: Ì¨±±¾Å¾Å¶ÓµÄ³ÉÔ±¶àÊýËêÊý¶¼½Ï´ó|pg||
nt|inquiry: well deserved 10 imps|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|me argent: not to mention much needed|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: szkoda|pg||
nt|picix: to 11 impów praktycznie pogrzeba³o do koñca Uniê|pg||
mb|1H|nt|inquiry: they need ten more of those... that will be tough to find... that many.....|pg||
mb|2C|nt|kit: Meckstroth might open any number of hearts, including none|pg||
nt|me argent: east has a good hand for a fitshowing jump in @Ss if they play that very usefull treatment|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: z dwóch powodów|pg||
mb|p|nt|ccba: ¿ªÊÒÈü³¡ÄÚÓÐ¶ÓÔ±·¢¼±²¡|pg||
nt|me argent: instead like most americans they play splinter bids in this situation|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|frajerzyna: z mojej osobistej sympatii do ekipy Unii|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: i emocji w meczu|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: przy aktualnym wyniku ostatniego segmentu nie bedzie|pg||
nt|picix: No... Emocje to faktycznie RACZEJ siê skoñczy³y...|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: a chyba wszyscy chcemy pokibicowaŸæ|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Not clear what he should lead|pg||
nt|kit: Hearts seem hopeless, but Zia implied spades|pg||
nt|kit: I think he made a sensible choice|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the Qlead here shows less than a 4-card suit|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg can come to 5 diamonds 1 club, 1 heart, and 2 spades, but he has to get the diamonds right and otherwise be careful|pg||
nt|kit: Not clear whether Rosenberg should win the first trick or not, and if he does win it, where?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: eric doesn't know if he lead from KQx or QJx|pg||
nt|me argent: will west chance 5@Hs?|pg||
nt|inquiry: 5@C is a god save against 4@H... how about 5@H? lose two top tricks, but @S come home to prevent teh @D loser except on a @D lead.....at trick one... |pg||
nt|inquiry: good|pg||
nt|me argent: 5@Cs goes down 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|ccba: ÕýÔÚ½ô¼±´¦ÖÃ|pg||
nt|inquiry: looks like 4 more imps for TEAM HARRIS|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|me argent: this looks like a 4 imp pickup for harris team|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|kit: If Rodwell continues spades, I think Rosenberg has to win and lead a diamond|pg||
nt|inquiry: just the four obvious losers....|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
nt|inquiry: and plenty of time to find the spade switch... |pg||
pc|h3|nt|kit: to the jack, then knock out the ace of hearts|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d9|nt|kit: otherwise his entries are difficult, and he may get shut out of one of his winners|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kit: uh oh|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|inquiry: to quote someone NEXT|pg||
nt|me argent: NEXT|pg||
nt|me argent: its seems i always a shade 2 slow|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|h4|nt|kit: sorry, Rosenberg has another club -- forgot that|pg||
nt|kit: so there is no problem|pg||
nt|landen: operator error, no doubt|pg||
nt|bigtrain: if he really cashed a @D there was|pg||
nt|poohbear: He led the King of Hearts at that point|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|inquiry: but you get all the credit for the trademarked use of the word NEXT in capital letters|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|me argent: TY|pg||
nt|me argent: NEXT|pg||
nt|me argent: please|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SJ95H8DKQJCKQJ865,SKT76HT63DA53CA43,SQ42HQ52DT764CT97,SA83HAKJ974D982C2|sv|o|nt|brolucius: 1@D - 5@D will make it difficult for South.|pg||
nt|gracelin: an excellent 6D for EW but will be beaten with Qxx trumps with North|pg||
nt|fann4: Not unreasonable to try to improve the contract. Though 2NT or 3@C are worse.|pg||
nt|gosia: don't understand 2nt rebid - either the 6th club or 4 cd major|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: they where going to play board 22 again lol|pg||
nt|bessi2: perhaps verhees should have retreated to 3clubs... such a terrible dummy in 2n|pg||
nt|fann4: 2NT, I think, shows a semi balanced minimum.|pg||
nt|gosia: Bates Yesterday showed side 4cd @d suit with 6/4 - not with great success|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: is was turned around though, good i told them lol|pg||
nt|mrdct: i'm not even sure that weichsel does|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tez: i correct..passable?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|gracelin: If East jumps to 5D, guess South will bid 5S and get doubled|pg||
mb|2C|nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Peter Crouch from England|pg||
nt|pitiful: gm|pg||
nt|gracelin: Morning Peter|pg||
nt|bjacobs: it's an ok save as it turns out|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even though E-W might have a diamond slam on, from East's point of view, it seems right to pre-empt to make life difficult for N-S.|pg||
nt|pitiful: if west passes east might bid 6@c|pg||
nt|brolucius: Surely West will double.|pg||
nt|brolucius: He will not expect East to hold anything close to that needed for a slam.|pg||
mb|d|nt|pitiful: i think west has close decision, east might bid bid 5@d with QJxxxx instead of AKxxxx @c|pg||
nt|gracelin: what is North thinking ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: You were right. (But I do not agree with West's pass). |pg||
mb|2H|nt|gosia: I wasn't criticizing Peter, whom I have admired for 40 years - making a point against fast play|pg||
nt|fann4: I didn't say you were:)|pg||
nt|fann4: I'm talking in general about the decision to return a @D, as opposed to the 'crystal ball' switch of a @S|pg||
nt|fann4: Looks live reverse Flannery, but maybe just shows the majors.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@H making is a good result for EW in the open room|pg||
mb|3C|nt|bessi2: 2h shows a preemptive hand with both majors i assume|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: east did very well|pg||
nt|vugraph bo: East was thinking, sorry|pg||
nt|fann4: More crossed wires.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@C showed more in polish club than standard, but martens should have cued 2d if bidding in normal rules|pg||
nt|fann4: The link for the BBO TV, to get the other room simultaneously is: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ |pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well clearly a misunderstanding, seems Jassem could have bid just 3@H|pg||
nt|gosia: 2 @h 8-11 5/4 majors - 3 @c asks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: explain this auction, what is 3c|pg||
mb|4H|nt|brolucius: With two spade tricks, I cannot understand West's reluctance to double. He has nothing to spare in a constructive sense.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It seems to me that West's @S10 make this a pretty clear double|pg||
nt|fann4: And the 3@H bid shows?|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Lots of laughing here, since martens was their trainer|pg||
nt|tez: reopening?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraph7: 1nt: any weak nt|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 1 sp relay|pg||
nt|gosia: which suit ?|pg||
nt|avivs: Scandinavian rules state that no one is allowed to play in 1NT undoubled when every one are Non Vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: Why did S pass 1@D to begin with? Was he planning to sit 1@D doubled?|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: and he teached them this secuence|pg||
nt|dburn: good news and bad|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: Vuegraph is this auction correct ?|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: yes it is|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Weichsel asking about all the bidding|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jassem thinks partner has very weak hand with long hearts i suppose, seems however improbable at best|pg||
nt|fann4: South's original pass created the problem imho (in my humble opinion)|pg||
nt|mrdct: south hasn't made a takeout double so i'm not sure why you wouldn't play for the drop in trumps|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: east left the room, great!!|pg||
nt|gosia: lol|pg||
nt|kit: I don't see that inference -- all that proves is that South doesn't have 4 spades probably|pg||
nt|ybob: especially with @D leads|pg||
nt|kit: South must lead a diamond for defense to have a chance with the spades splitting, but that seems like a normal lead|pg||
nt|dburn: *declarer" left the room?|pg||
nt|fnickell: ybob has got tit right|pg||
nt|mrdct: well on an available spaces basis longer @H are more likely to be in north's hand so perhaps he will get it right|pg||
nt|mrdct: when he gets back from the toilet|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 50 min left in the clock....|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer could strip the hand he would be able to throw South in with the third round of diamonds even if he misguesses the hearts, but he is an entry short after a diamond lead|pg||
nt|gosia: 9 boards to go|pg||
pc|dK|nt|gosia: Martens first pass surprising ? no neg X, no 1 NT ?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|brolucius: No doubt it matches his 2@D jump overcall nicely.|pg||
nt|tez: after this board match will go on to a tie|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gosia: Peters x will work well here|pg||
nt|dburn: East-West, who had a 4-4 spade fit, didn't find it|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fann4: I'm told 3@H showed 5@S, and 3NT was a serious slam try.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|tez: sry..with E Doubled|pg||
nt|gosia: slam down|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|fann4: A well judged dbl by Weichsel. |pg||
nt|fann4: We will have a leader after this board - by 1 imp|pg||
nt|fann4: Maybe more, depending on the line of play.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think he can get out for down 1|pg||
nt|gosia: not likely|pg||
nt|fann4: He can, but he has to reject the @S finesse, I think.|pg||
nt|dburn: but the spades were 4-1 and North led one against 1NT|pg||
nt|dburn: 9 boards or three days, whichever is shorter|pg||
nt|kit: In other room declarer just played as many other suits as he could, and eventually guessed the hearts -- I expect the same thing to happen here|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|gosia: especially on club lead|pg||
nt|tez: each pairs make 1nt|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: by ducking when heart jack played|pg||
nt|fann4: ONLY on a @C lead.|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|mc|10|nt|tez: 12 Imps if down 2 . with  2 Imps Rubin will be ahead|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3S7HAT63DQJ3CAK873,SAJ82HJ87DAKCJ952,SKQT543HQ9DT6542C,S96HK542D987CQT64|sv|e|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|inquiry: harris is up 29 to 7 in this set....|pg||
mb|p|nt|landen: not nearly as entertaining as the previous set of wild boards|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Interesting that Rosenberg wouldn't bid 2@S here|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|picix: i kolejny podwójny zapis dla eko|pg||
pc|c5|nt|kit: Seems like he might want a spade lead vs. 3NT if Meckstroth bids that|pg||
nt|me argent: that double should cause NS some problems|pg||
nt|me argent: if martel passes|pg||
nt|picix: có¿.. Ten mecz i tak jest bardziej "wyrównany" |pg||
nt|picix: ni¿ mecz sygnity-spójnia|pg||
nt|picix: tam mamy aktuialnie wynik 209-77|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|kit: and the 2@S bid is pretty much on the house|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|me argent: he didnt and it wont|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚ²»ÊÇ¾öÈü,ÊÇµÚ1Ñ­»·µÄ×îºóÒ»³¡±ÈÈü|pg||
nt|ccba: Ã÷Ìì¿ªÊ¼µÚ2Ñ­»·Èü|pg||
nt|ccba: ±ÈÈüµ½30ºÅ½áÊø|pg||
nt|inquiry: I would lead the @CJ... 1@D doesn't promise @Ds... |pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|c3|pc|s8|pg||
nt|inquiry: so NS system marks south with 11 to 13 balanced, when and north with 3-3 or shorter in the majors... so south with 4@S.... not sure if all that helps... but when the @SA is ...|pg||
nt|inquiry: flushed.. the hand becomes very double dummy..so I predict an overtrick|pg||
pc|s3|nt|me argent: declarer has lots of options|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mittmouse: best contract|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kit: Zia is pretty much end-played here|pg||
nt|kit: he must be wondering where the spades are|pg||
nt|me argent: some of which arent successfull|pg||
nt|me argent: @S shift?|pg||
nt|picix: chocia¿ jeden imp...|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3S7HAT63DQJ3CAK873,SAJ82HJ87DAKCJ952,SKQT543HQ9DT6542C,S96HK542D987CQT64|sv|e|nt|brolucius: You remember the possible 6@H hand? In the close room the bidding started in exactly the same way: 1@S - 1NT - 3@H. Now North did bid our recommended 4@C (cue-bid) and the slam was ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: bid and made.|pg||
nt|fann4: Sorry, I meant it can make, but in practise it won't|pg||
nt|mrdct: creative 4@S opening by north in the open room|pg||
nt|kit: How many (if any) spades should North bid at favorable here?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|gracelin: no, west wins and cash DK, dummy's DQ is estabished but declarer's 5th is dead, East will get a club tricks at the end|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: East is not so happy|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: srry, above is in response to many thot declarer can savea trick by not playing the 4th H but give West the trump|pg||
nt|pitiful: I think that from west's perspective 5@s rates to go down 1 most of the time, might make occassionally when partner has no defence and might go down 2 whan partner has a lot of ...|pg||
nt|pitiful: defence, it might tip declarer off to play for 4-1 trumps on the rare occassion when Hx comes down in dummy|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: I can't imagine Martens wanted to penalize 1 @d|pg||
nt|avivs: OR are in 2@s by East on board 8|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: A lot of imps have been lost on partnership misunderstandings.|pg||
nt|dburn: about that many|pg||
pc|c4|nt|brolucius: South had a wide choice of responses here. A splinter bid of 3@S is not satsifactory because it gives partner no picture of the holdings in the minor suits. |pg||
nt|fann4: Amazing how different players have been opening 1@D in this match. Bd 2 was another one.|pg||
nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|fann4: I missed the obvious trump loser:)|pg||
nt|olien: 1@c=polish,  2@c=15+ w/ @c|pg||
nt|mrdct: 4 looks like the popular choice|pg||
nt|dburn: pass, or 4@s, I guess|pg||
nt|kit: I like to preempt, but I must admit that I would have settled for 3@S.  Now if my suit is hearts, then opening 4@H is more attractive|pg||
nt|gosia: same opening at both tables - I must study that book :)|pg||
nt|mrdct: 6-5s are made for declaring|pg||
nt|kit: The problem with opening 4@S is that it is so high you are likely to be wearing it, right or wrong.|pg||
pc|cA|nt|tez: it is widely seen such misunderstandings amongst artificial system players or on new partnerships|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: Very cautious....|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 2@C is a GF, by the look of it|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|fann4: Neither NS in both rooms here are new partnerships - it's the artificiality that has caused the problems. |pg||
nt|fabsayc: more likely a matter of fatigue here|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fann4: I am not a fan of N's dbl here.|pg||
nt|gosia: gamesmanship ?|pg||
nt|gosia: not nice|pg||
nt|tez: 4-3-3-3 10 points 2@s ok for me like as martens,and you?|pg||
nt|ybob: 3@S -1 |pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|gracelin: unless he rebids 3C|pg||
nt|bjacobs: And West is no Walrus|pg||
nt|dburn: close between 2@s and 6@s, with a slight preference for the former|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: they just brought juices for everybody!! |pg||
nt|caitlin: they probably need the sugar at the rate they are playing so many boards:)|pg||
nt|avivs: not for everybody... I didn't get one|pg||
nt|caitlin: awww|pg||
nt|kit: No rush to take the heart pitch -- this tells the defense less about the hand|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bjacobs: "I had 18 points partner! Had to double 4@H"|pg||
nt|pitiful: the problem responding 2@c is that it might go 2@s pass 4@s and now you sort of feel you have to bid 5@h, less likely at this vul though|pg||
nt|brolucius: "You had bid at the two-level, too!"|pg||
nt|caitlin: your baby doesn't need the sugar lol|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: jo|pg||
pc|s9|nt|tez: if you'll aplly any artificial system you should work well |pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: hard to like some bids|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good contract, but not sure about 3nt bid|pg||
nt|fann4: So POL pulled back 5 imps on board 23, going only -200 in 2@S|pg||
nt|gosia: See you all tonite- gotta do some chores - can't wait to watch should be very exciting :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: may play dummys queen reasoning he has no safety play|pg||
nt|fann4: This is an interesting hand. Declarer has to put up the @SQ at trick 1. |pg||
nt|bessi2: i think martens has to go up with the q.. because if he plays low 10 ace and then clears clubs  the defense can play ak hearts and squeeze dummy|pg||
nt|fann4: If he plays low, when he knocks out the 3rd @C, then 2 rounds of @H will squeeze the dummy.|pg||
nt|avivs: but I do... |pg||
nt|ritong: sigh|pg||
nt|ritong: jassem opened 4@s too|pg||
nt|dburn: the trouble with 3@s is that if it goes 4@h to your left, pass, pass, you will be forever wondering whether you did the right thing|pg||
nt|dburn: but I do see what you mean|pg||
nt|kit: would I?  Maybe partner knows|pg||
nt|gosia: how about 2?|pg||
nt|gosia: and maybe bid diamonds later if it feels right ?|pg||
nt|ybob: discard @D not confused to def , not bid 4@S with 6@S 5@H|pg||
nt|dburn: moreover, 3@s may allow 4@c to your left, and that may not be good for you|pg||
nt|dburn: whatever it means|pg||
nt|dburn: but I still see what you mean|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: east left the room|pg||
nt|caitlin: :) I am sure|pg||
nt|tez: baby defence ..play q of @h|pg||
pc|dK|nt|bjacobs: Right |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|Vugraph7: ok now no more english in the room lol|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Of course the Walrus counts 1 point for his doubleton heart|pg||
nt|avivs: this might go down more than 1|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|bessi2: Martens reached the same conclusion as us commentators|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|tez: how?|pg||
nt|avivs: a @c ruff for example|pg||
nt|avivs: force declarer in Diamonds|pg||
nt|gosia: I think it's best to be discipined about suit lengths - so I still vote for 2 opposite an unpassed partner !|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s3|nt|tez: would make if decides towards spades|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|gosia: Marcin looking for high cards :)|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4S87HKQT742D83CKT3,SQTH85DAJ9762CQ84,SK652HJ96DQ54C975,SAJ943HA3DKTCAJ62|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|me argent: with 7 cold this is not a good result 4 harris|pg||
nt|inquiry: look like Ejeblad has a great result on this hand in the open room|pg||
nt|inquiry: lots of imps possible here|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Meckstroth has a good hand, but no convenient action|pg||
nt|me argent: just a question how many imps they will lose from about 10 to 18 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|landen: quandary, hates 4 card overcalls and hates passing this much so doubled?|pg||
mb|2N|nt|kit: Double is very dangerous with a stiff diamond|pg||
nt|picix: prosto do celu...|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kit: but on a good day partner doesn't bury you with diamond bids|pg||
nt|inquiry: well this is slam zone now... imps are coming to the leader for sure... 5@H, 5@D, 2@S ruff, and @CA.. they just need to avoid playing in @cs... |pg||
mb|4S|nt|picix: Jak mawia Pan Zdzienicki: "Koñcówki siê goli|pg||
nt|picix: a szlemiki siê licytuje..."|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: this is the way to show a 16-18 4-card @S raise|pg||
nt|inquiry: if they bid the grand, will all Harris's hard work to go up by 18 in this set be wiped out? Bridge can be a cruel game.... |pg||
nt|me argent: can be cruel?|pg||
nt|inquiry: well to me it is almost aways... :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: to everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|inquiry: I am thinking on this auction, 5@D is forcing... we will see if Stansby bids again .. .that will tell us as he has so little... but then they open very light... :)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|kit: not much the defense can do here|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|me argent: stansby knows despite his minimum he has great fitting cards 4 partner|pg||
nt|inquiry: no way for EAST to know about @CA I think, so this might be the end.. on the other hand,.... his partner has to be inviting 7 and he has AKQ of trumps.....|pg||
pc|s3|nt|kit: Best defense is actually a diamond shift, and hope declarer is unable to find his ninth trick|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3 is a standard card... meckwell normally play upside-down carding|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this is an exception|pg||
nt|landen: Not likely looking at mech's heart holding|pg||
nt|kit: But on the auction, declarer can't very well get it wrong -- Meckstroth would be squeeze in 3 suits on the run of the diamonds|pg||
pc|s7|nt|me argent: he chickened out he knew it was rgt to bid with those @Ds but he just couldnt bring himself to do it|pg||
nt|inquiry: It seems like it must be... right to bid on.... and this hand is typical of their light openings.... even vul|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|me argent: but it was the rgt decesion as the OR result indicates|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|c4|nt|kit: Meckstroth is basically hoping that his partner has the diamond stopped|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h4|nt|landen: Walter?  trick one standard count, then standard remainder count?|pg||
nt|kit: Still, I'm not exactly sure what he is playing for|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yes... current count is standard.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
nt|kit: oops|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4S87HKQT742D83CKT3,SQTH85DAJ9762CQ84,SK652HJ96DQ54C975,SAJ943HA3DKTCAJ62|sv|b|nt|fann4: EW also in 6@S on bd 24|pg||
nt|mrdct: nightmare for jansma in the open room here - he balanced his opponents into a making vul game when could've defended 1NT|pg||
mb|1S|nt|gracelin: a close 3NT or 4H by NS|pg||
nt|caitlin: same 3@S in open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Surely not 2@S now.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nothing like his previous jump overcall.|pg||
nt|pitiful: 1@s for me|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and me|pg||
nt|bjacobs: why put your head in the noose with  2@S?|pg||
nt|pitiful: close to passing|pg||
mb|1N|an|F|nt|brolucius: The noose must be there for a purpose.|pg||
nt|gosia: that wa 35 years ago - he calmed down alot after cutting his hair|pg||
nt|dburn: well, I'd rather bid two than three, and I'd rather bid four than three, but I'd also rather have Kit Woolsey's judgement than mine|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: another makeable but unbiddable slam for ns|pg||
mb|2C|nt|bjacobs: :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: it's a metaphorical noose David - it's not actually hanging at the table|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: not a nice rebid problem for south|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It would just be a dead giveaway if West bid 2@S and put it round his neck|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ybob: maybe E bid 2NT , not S|pg||
nt|kit: Very nice result for E-W in closed room, avoiding the 3NT trap|pg||
nt|mrdct: ah - i'm told the recorded auction is wrong|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|brolucius: Particularly if he chose the noose with the 800 price tag.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT makes without a D lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, a @D lead would be sad|pg||
nt|brolucius: South will be happy of a chance to pass.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Unless 2@H was GF|pg||
nt|gracelin: not sure whether 3H is forcing or not but with 3 aces guess south will bid a game at Vul.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Does 4@H make?  That club suit is very interesting|pg||
nt|brolucius: Why should he expect to make game?|pg||
nt|gracelin: 6H plus 3 tricks at the side|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: is it time for some coffe here, this room is cold|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: and looks like Peter will make 3@S for some swing|pg||
nt|avivs: defense in OR started with the @hA and now they made it|pg||
nt|avivs: this will put Rubin in the lead|pg||
nt|ybob: 3@D = short @C ?|pg||
nt|tez: no long @c:)|pg||
nt|phantoma: I thk 64 only now|pg||
nt|dburn: no, no|pg||
mb|3S|nt|tez: hard to stop before five level|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: he could not have defended 1NT|pg||
nt|kit: Looks like they are headed for 4@S here also|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: what do you think which team will win tournament?|pg||
nt|tez: only gues|pg||
nt|kit: West did very well, noting the heart danger with his two small hearts and partner not rebidding 2@H, and the power of his Q10 doubleton of spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: now let's see if declarer can find the intra finesse in clubs|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well it's going to take an unlikely intrafinesse and squash of @C8 to make thjis|pg||
nt|gracelin: and he might afraid a trump promotion so will use DA to clear trumps first, after that the intra finesse is gone|pg||
nt|gracelin: essentiall declarer may just play H for no loser and CK on side|pg||
nt|tez: phantoma?|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure, but at least one Pole will win the 2008 Vanderbilt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, East may be contemplating pass|pg||
nt|gosia: oops|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: EW not so happy now|pg||
nt|fnickell: i like west's bidding|pg||
nt|kit: Oops -- apparently they had a mixup -- West thought his 3@S call was forcing.  I would think so also.|pg||
nt|dburn: and now he has contemplated it for so long that...|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: west thought his bid was F|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: slam may not be unbiddable, |pg||
nt|phantoma: I know but cant tell you|pg||
pc|h5|nt|gosia: :)|pg||
nt|avivs: I think the Poles are getting tired|pg||
pc|h9|nt|brolucius: West made the overcall, so reasonable to play him for the @CK.|pg||
nt|tez: wd|pg||
nt|tez: trust your pd:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this auction looks like has potential for another disaster was 2s artificial|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some bid by north asking for heart honours would likely work|pg||
nt|bessi2: true... and the slam is actually quite good|pg||
nt|fann4: But if E doesn't lead a @D you cannot combine chances in the pointed suits.|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|dburn: this has been a tournament full of upsets - much heavy timber fell in the rounds of 16 and 8|pg||
nt|phantoma: I am on the Rubin side|pg||
nt|avivs: and the Dutch pair which had some missteps in the early goings are back on high gear|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dburn: well and all - this will just tighten the match up again with a handful of boards to go|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|nt|Vugraph7: claiming here|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: east said better to play it|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|fann4: One extra chance of trying to bring down !Qxx first.|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, no it won't|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ybob: cold 10 tricks |pg||
nt|gosia: 11|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ybob: if guess Q @S|pg||
nt|ybob: not sure if 11 |pg||
nt|tez: i am side with poland but i think rubin will win.|pg||
nt|avivs: no reason not to guess spades|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|bjacobs: Another good reason NOT to bid 2@S (getting back to the start of this hand) - makes it too easy in the play|pg||
nt|gracelin: North shud at least be thinking to indicate he knows how to play intrafinesse but rejects it.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks for the grammar lesson on double negatives, spectators|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|fann4: I'm not sure if there is an operator error, but in the OR, NS on bd 25 are in 4@h with a 4-0 fit.|pg||
nt|bessi2: seeing the scorecards in both rooms i'm guessing the n-s pairs are feeling somewhat better then the ew pairs|pg||
pc|c4|nt|bjacobs: 2@S is like putting a gun to your head :)|pg||
pc|c7|nt|fann4: Seems like N was making an auto cue bid after bidding strongly with @C,a and S thought it was delayed support. Sigh!]|pg||
nt|avivs: same game in OR|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|brolucius: The intra-finesse only became possible when the @C8 appeared.|pg||
nt|gracelin: H10 ruff still makes|pg||
nt|fnickell: no, it will widen the margi n|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|gracelin: ruffing with H6 is inexcusable|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, they had to set up their diamond trick |pg||
nt|dburn: with the result that the "big names" - Helness-Helgemo, Lauria-Versace, Fantoni-Nunes, Zia-Rosenberg et Al (Sontag) are not in the final|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed it will - apologies|pg||
nt|gosia: not such a handful - still 6 more|pg||
nt|mrdct: 6 more boards to go|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|h6|nt|bjacobs: Oh I don't know - suppose spades are 5-3 and West has doubleton @HJ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Remember, West bid only 1@S :)|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mrdct: or about an hour and half at the current pace|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|dburn: but the two teams that are in the final are serving up a close match full of excitement|pg||
nt|avivs: don't forget Welland (the defending from last year)|pg||
nt|tez: most of kibitzers are sleeping,i took only 98 comments.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d7|nt|bjacobs: A 2@S bid would have been like ...|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: West is not playing WJOs (he had 15 points for his 2@D, earlier).|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|gracelin: but I thk the defense indicated 6-2 in spades.  Otherwise West will shift to D|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|kit: Rubin's team will have their work cut out now|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAKJ3H9875DK743CJ,ST9865HKJTDT5CK92,SQH632DAQ62CAQ743,S742HAQ4DJ98CT865|sv|o|nt|landen: multi 2@D, bad weak 2 in a major?|pg||
nt|me argent: and we are back to where we started|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|landen: nope|pg||
mb|2C|nt|kit: But Rosenberg goes conservative|pg||
nt|inquiry: Team harris is a four person team that has been playing every session every day.. this is just the start of day 2 for team ekeblad that had a bye until this round... it is tough to ...|pg||
nt|inquiry: play elimination style bridge with no rest day after day....|pg||
mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: Pan Zdziennicki powiedzia³ to jakieœ 50 lat po autorze|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|kit: just as well -- if he had opened multi, Zia probably would have driven to game|pg||
nt|inquiry: another good result in the open room for team ekelbald.. they will take the lead for the set on this hand....|pg||
mb|3N|nt|kit: I doubt if Meckstroth will sell here|pg||
nt|me argent: 5@Hs EW is very tough to beat|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: ale rzeczywiœcie mia³ racjê|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Rosenberg will certainly compete to 3@H, which can be beaten I believe|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|frajerzyna: Narkiewicz gra w rozdaniu 3 ba i wygra po wiœcie w dame karo|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: sorry, miscounted -- 3@H makes|pg||
nt|kit: it is 4@H which can be beaten on spade lead|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: i have to admit, i would have strongly considered 3@S with eric's hand|pg||
nt|kit: Rodwell might have tried 3@S knowing the hands fit well with his three small hearts, but that is difficult on a 4-bagger|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|frajerzyna: a tu jest szansa na zapis dla NS |pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|kit: Rodwell will shift to what?  A trump could pick up partner's Qx, but could be right if declarer has doubleton diamond|pg||
nt|kit: or even if declarer has 3 diamonds maybe|pg||
nt|inquiry: there is a chance to go down here. the 4-0 @S split being unexpected... Got to figure @DA with EAST and probably will continue top @D however.... for ruffing finessee....|pg||
nt|me argent: stansbys pass over 4@Hs seems a little wet |pg||
pc|sT|nt|me argent: but they may well beat this 4 a big score|pg||
nt|maticm4: jak myœlicie, odbêdzie siê 6 segment?|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|frajerzyna: no |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|kit: but I think the danger of blowing a heart trick is too great, so my guess is he'll continue spades|pg||
nt|inquiry: can harris guess the @S split given EAST didn't raise @Hs? with AQx of diamonds and fairly reasonable @H support?|pg||
nt|me argent: pitching @H not best|pg||
nt|inquiry: almost ahs to be 4-0 to explain the bidding which is hard to believe anyway....|pg||
nt|me argent: @C might have worked out better|pg||
nt|me argent: declarer has entry problem,s|pg||
pc|dA|nt|frajerzyna: przynajmniej jakieœ 10 impów|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: mo¿e bêdzie jeszcze dalsza gra|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|me argent: whoops|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|kit: and now a club up -- Meckstrong will do what?  |pg||
nt|inquiry: still under control..... |pg||
nt|me argent: bad news for declarer|pg||
nt|inquiry: can use @Ds as trump substitutes.... :)|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAKJ3H9875DK743CJ,ST9865HKJTDT5CK92,SQH632DAQ62CAQ743,S742HAQ4DJ98CT865|sv|o|nt|bjacobs: But with 5@S West doesn't really know if the third spade is cashing - he might try to cash it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: as in fact he did|pg||
nt|bessi2: won't cost them that much since they must have been on their way to 5clubs which never makes|pg||
nt|mrdct: 10 boards completed in just under 2 hours|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 32 minutes left in the clock ....|pg||
nt|kit: This may look flat, but I could see N-S going astray and winding up in 5@D|pg||
mb|1D|nt|gracelin: ok not 100% but I thk ruffing with H10 cater for much more cases.|pg||
nt|fann4: Good point|pg||
nt|dburn: well, at least Rubin needs less than 1 IMP per minute|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: could have made 5 but perhaps claim line was wrong|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: he claimed five, but east said they get 2 more tricks seing south hand|pg||
nt|fann4: Bd 11 in the OR was full of action. After 1@C-1@H South dbled. NS were in big trouble but EW pushed on to 3NT. W could have made it, but played for @D 4-4 and went down.|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|bjacobs: It's all a bit of a guerssing game, and declarer has my sympathy|pg||
nt|bjacobs: not that it's worth much to him|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: ruff twice in hand works, dummy reversall, and thanks all for georgia wins updates|pg||
mb|3N|nt|gracelin: 6NT on 2 finesses, but double 2D will be good enough to win some imps|pg||
nt|fann4: Martens's 1@D opening (which I think is automatic) will make 3NT a cinch to make, if EW get there. But they may finish up in 4@S|pg||
nt|tez: in fact player should call TD instead of "go on"after claim if has any reason to reject|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fann4: Could not 2@D be 'to play', with 2@H being the clearer cue bid?|pg||
nt|mrdct: AKJx not a great holding opposite a singleton|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: good choice the splinter -- Now South can make an informed decision.|pg||
nt|gosia: I don't like a splinter with 3 quick losers in an off suit|pg||
pc|s9|nt|gosia: 3 @d  now everyone will bid them :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i doubt that will help their mood|pg||
nt|mrdct: good for NT - not so good for a suit contract i mean|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|bjacobs: Get that 800 noose out|pg||
nt|gosia: I like 3d better|pg||
nt|avivs: I think he will go -1 after missguesing the diamonds|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has more than enough points for a game. That makes it a good time to play for penalties, since the extra points will bring in more (extra penalty) than they would in 3NT ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: overtricks.|pg||
nt|fann4: In fact, with 4@H only 1 down it didn't cost - but the psychological effect may be much more expensive.|pg||
nt|bessi2: indeed|pg||
nt|fnickell: I agree with Marge...it will work out well here, though.|pg||
nt|kit: you don't have to like it -- but it is by far the most descriptive bid -- look how easy it made the auction.|pg||
nt|kit: I totally agree with the splinter|pg||
nt|fnickell: OK, Kit...we know your view.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|phantoma: after michaels I dont thk so|pg||
nt|dburn: why would he misguess diamonds?|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gracelin: can get 1100 if West can use his DJ to ruff the 5th H, of course, defenders need to cash all their winners in advance|pg||
nt|tez: you can show stopper depends what suit cuebid by opp|pg||
nt|dburn: he will know that North has two of them|pg||
nt|tez: @d playing will designate 4@s contract's destiny.|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: and he will have to gauge whether Hx is more likely than xx|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|brolucius: It was a debatable use of the 2@C convention, since if there was any sort of diamond fit, E-W could easily outbid them in a major.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: club queen?|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer will test diamonds, ending in his hand second round|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|gracelin: 4th H|pg||
nt|pitiful: terence reese would not approve of north "opening his mouth" with north's hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even with this lead 5@C is tough|pg||
nt|bessi2: this was a very friendly lead.. he can make it now i think|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|h2|nt|bjacobs: I wouldn't bother debating it myself - there is no upside to coming in with that North hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: Particularly as he then went on to say something.|pg||
nt|gracelin: they have set up the occasion for the uppercut|pg||
nt|gracelin: East must duck the DQ play, though|pg||
nt|gracelin: must not|pg||
nt|ybob: nice|pg||
nt|kit: When he sees they split he knows he has diamond entry|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|nt|avivs: there are 8 HX combos and 6 xx combos but also 1 HH combo|pg||
nt|dburn: quick quiz question - is North more likely to have two diamonds to an honor, or two small diamonds?|pg||
nt|avivs: and also need to guess 9|pg||
nt|ybob: can ruff 4º @D|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: take it back marcin :)|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|nt|gracelin: discard|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now  East can get a promotion!  |pg||
nt|brolucius: Now declarer can pitch a loser. That was Patrick's point about cashing the black-suit winners first.|pg||
nt|gracelin: not if North discard a spade|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If he pitches a spade, then 3 rounds of clubs kills him - East will get 3 trump tricks|pg||
nt|bjacobs: East wins @DA, then 2 spades and the deadly 4th club|pg||
pc|c3|nt|bjacobs: If he pitches a club,then the same procedure applies in spades|pg||
nt|gracelin: true. if declarer pitch club that's no good either|pg||
nt|kit: I expected him to shoot out jack of clubs feeler and see if West covered|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|gosia: and who r u ?|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|bjacobs: But the defence might not be found|pg||
pc|c2|nt|dburn: well, you could start with 2@c and bid round the houses, but 3@s seems OK|pg||
nt|kit: now West knows too much|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2ST7542HQ9D954CQ62,S6H76432DAQJ2CT85,SAJ98HATDK8CKJ973,SKQ3HKJ85DT763CA4|sv|n|mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: tu jest szansa na punkty|pg||
mb|1N|nt|inquiry: ekeblad has wiped out the huge session lead, and now leads 31 to 29 for the boards today|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: another good OR result for eke|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: szlem pikowy po partii |pg||
mb|2H!|nt|landen: lightning fast in this room....surprising|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Close 4@H here -- probably depends upon picking up the queen of hearts|pg||
nt|me argent: EW make 3 or 4 @Cs|pg||
nt|maticm4: z pewnoœci¹ ns powinni ruszyc do ataku|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|kit: probably a support double -- but might show a strong notrump -- anybody know?|pg||
nt|landen: both, I guess|pg||
nt|kit: this time, yes both|pg||
nt|landen: support with strong notrump or equivalent distribution|pg||
nt|inquiry: I predict they will not get to play 2@H here....|pg||
mb|p|nt|inquiry: now for sURE|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: Rodwell probably not worth a raise with weak shape|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: mow 7 pik|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: proszê|pg||
nt|maticm4: heh:)|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|maticm4: ooo|pg||
mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: i dosta³em bitkê|pg||
mb|3S|nt|inquiry: any reasonable way to avoid 5 losers in @hs? set @d up for @C pitch, but that is not going to happen|pg||
nt|me argent: EW pushed their opponents just high enough|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: o sorry to by³ priw|pg||
mb|p|nt|inquiry: and too late now anyway|pg||
nt|maticm4: moze siê zacz¹æ:)|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: brawo MIcha³|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: musia³ us³yszeæ|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: mam donoœny g³os|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I guess the double didn't guarantee 3-card heart support, or Rosenberg's 3@D call would be strange|pg||
nt|landen: I'm told Zia plays it shows strong notrump, says nothing about heart support|pg||
nt|kit: A lot of pitfalls this hand -- even if Rosenberg gets the hearts right, he has problems|pg||
nt|kit: and he may take two spade finesses, which would be bad|pg||
nt|kit: he is worried about his third club -- he fears a 6-2 split after the overcall|pg||
nt|kit: But Meckstroth did pass as dealer, which places a lot of cards in Rodwell's hand and makes it more likely clubs are 5-3|pg||
mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: mia³ powa¿ne przes³anki|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: w pikach wyd³u¿enie|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|frajerzyna: KD kier i partner obieca³ kontrole w m³odszych|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|inquiry: eight tricks... is the limit|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|kit: that solves the diamond problem, and maybe he can pitch a loser on the fourth diamond as well|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|frajerzyna: mam nadziejê ¿e rozdanie da 13 impów Unii i zobaczymy jeszcze grê|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|landen: unbelievable, another redoubled contract making 1000 in closed room  3NTXX|pg||
nt|inquiry: 4 more imps for ekeblad.. well competed by EW... |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|landen: in the first set there was push at +1000 in 5HXX|pg||
nt|landen: Garner and Weinstein -1000 twice so far|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|kit: Now he has a claim -- draw the trump, knock out king of diamonds, and he has 5 hearts, 3 diamonds, and 2 black aces for 10|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
nt|inquiry: whoops|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s9|nt|maticm4: te¿ 7 pik...|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: na drugim te¿ szlem :(|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: 63 punkty to chyba za du¿o na kontynuacjê|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: w¹tpie ¿e jeszcze siê spotkamy ¿yczê wiêc dobrej nocu|pg||
nt|frajerzyna: y|pg||
pc|d6|nt|inquiry: gonna set that @D up for a @S discard that now is useful|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|inquiry: i didn;t see this line of defense :)|pg||
nt|inquiry: doesnt' that make?|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|mc|9|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2ST7542HQ9D954CQ62,S6H76432DAQJ2CT85,SAJ98HATDK8CKJ973,SKQ3HKJ85DT763CA4|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: or continue with cross ruff|pg||
nt|tez: i cant say wd..normal|pg||
nt|gosia: agree|pg||
nt|tez: sry J|pg||
nt|dburn: Jansma, at any rate, knew the answer to the quick quiz question, and did the right thng at the right time|pg||
nt|avivs: I wonder what would happen if South covered @dT?|pg||
nt|kit: if he had led jack of clubs before cashing spades, likely West would have covered|pg||
nt|gosia: he had no choice but to hook the club|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|mrdct: 3@S might fail here played by south|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: true.. south could have taken the diamond ace and switched to clubs.. a spec informed me that only ace of heart heart ruff followed with a low diamond from dummy allows 5clubs to ...|pg||
nt|bessi2: make according to deep finesse|pg||
mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: cover right if south had 10x|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: what is this auction|pg||
nt|gosia: we'll never know :)|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, I learn from one of the spectators that Jan is a teacher of mathematics|pg||
nt|avivs: not that it's the right play... just wondering|pg||
nt|kit: North will certainly super-accept|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraph7: Martnes "it was a super splinter"|pg||
nt|gosia: after dbl I wd not jump to 4|pg||
nt|tez: THÝS ÝS NÝCE HAND|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Jassem leaves the room|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Difficult defence to break this contract|pg||
nt|tez: sry for caps lock|pg||
nt|dburn: better use a transfer, then|pg||
nt|mrdct: may pan out that way if north superaccepts in something other than @S|pg||
nt|gosia: on bd 32 in the other room|pg||
nt|kit: But it should still go down on normal diamond lead and heart return|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bjacobs: More like impossible: @DQ at trick 2|pg||
nt|dburn: crumbs|pg||
pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: endplayed into bidding 3nt|pg||
nt|fann4: Well - on bd 26 in the OR, NS in a no-play 6@D. That is going to cost RUB 17 imps.|pg||
nt|tez: now @d's|pg||
nt|gosia: and drop @h Q , I know - so easy :)|pg||
nt|tez: martens writes 620  i thk|pg||
pc|h7|nt|olien: fortunately can't misguess @d :)|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|gracelin: West needs to shift to DQ after the first H to beat 1NT, I guess|pg||
nt|kit: I think this lead is quite wrong -- what's the rush in hearts?|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: too strong for invite if that was intent (IMHO)|pg||
nt|fann4: I agree. If W has a weak NT, even with 12pts, there must be a play for game.|pg||
nt|fann4: Imps have been flying all over the place this set. It has not been the usually high standard of a Major final.|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: i can read of the alert of 3d 9-11 + 3 of top 5 d|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bessi2: Martens-Jassem having a very solid session here so far|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|olien: big swing coming on board 26 as OR is in 6@d|pg||
pc|s9|nt|dburn: it did seem that a diamnd lead was normal|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|gosia: well he's on his way|pg||
nt|tez: @h gues|pg||
nt|tez: we will see|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dburn: with a strong no trump to East's right, and all|pg||
nt|kit: Of course West might not find heart return|pg||
nt|kit: At other table diamond lead, and West played jack -- good play|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gosia: I think it's just fine|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h6|nt|tez: EW plays 3 @d good hand , six card suit game invite. Les refused bec @d stiff|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that part ok but side king i think swings the balance|pg||
nt|gosia: we are looking at all the hands you know and these guys- especially the Poles are exhausted|pg||
nt|tez: if @s pich|pg||
nt|kit: But when East got in and continued diamonds, West mistakenly played a third round of diamonds|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d7|nt|phantoma: has to underlead for trump promo|pg||
nt|phantoma: @S|pg||
nt|tez: duck now down 1|pg||
nt|phantoma: ow makes on rite guess|pg||
nt|avivs: he knows where the @hA is after West showed @dK so really no guess|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: Verhees is touching the 2@c|pg||
nt|avivs: can't pick up AQx|pg||
nt|tez: if duck makes..sry|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Defence might have to give up an overtrick here|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|bjacobs: with a diamond play now|pg||
nt|fann4: I said at the beginning that the Poles, as a 4 man team, may be fatigued.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Unless the signal helped|pg||
nt|gracelin: defender may beat this even with a low D shift on second trick, declarer will get squeeze on the 4th H|pg||
nt|gosia: I like the E/W bids - result not withstanding|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SJ65HKQDA954CA952,SK32HAJ76DQ7CKJ63,S974H842DT8632CT4,SAQT8HT953DKJCQ87|sv|b|nt|landen: so much for the "sporting double"|pg||
nt|inquiry: was down one correct?|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: of course ther are almost 50 hands left in this match so harris can still come back the problem of course is that other team is playing very well|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|inquiry: something funny happened at the end on that claim I think..|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|me argent: @D lead  might well set this|pg||
nt|inquiry: ok something in the play must have been wrong|pg||
nt|me argent: nothing else will|pg||
nt|inquiry: earlier|pg||
mb|2H|nt|me argent: VOILA|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|kit: This is an easy 4@H for N-S.  E-W have good 5@D save, but they have to get the suit in to find it|pg||
nt|landen: another Zia 1NT psyche, about 1 every 10 boards it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: And opening 1NT is not the way to do that|pg||
mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|inquiry: this will be down... |pg||
nt|me argent: good start for NS|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hA|mc|9|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SJ65HKQDA954CA952,SK32HAJ76DQ7CKJ63,S974H842DT8632CT4,SAQT8HT953DKJCQ87|sv|b|nt|brolucius: You would probably play on, to avoid appearing in the record books. |pg||
nt|olien: which is destined for down 1 on any play|pg||
nt|kit: The clock is ticking against Rubin -- in more ways than one.|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: But Rubin is a 6 man squad.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|gracelin: And it happened in Taiwan more than 20 years ago that a team led more than 100 imps at half time and eventually lost the trial.|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Painful memory for you.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|gracelin: for local specs who might still remember it's Nan-Lian beat Hei-Zhao|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: for those who missed it earlier, jassem-martens playing two systems depending on vulnerability|pg||
nt|fann4: And by that, I mean all men.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|dburn: well...|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: I don't see why he needs to bid with that trash|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|gracelin: Hei Zhao is a team consisted of the famous Chang's brother in the 70's and 80's|pg||
nt|gosia: I know - Rose put up a valiant battle, but lost yesterday|pg||
nt|fann4: This could get passed out in the other room (though no-one seems to pass 3rd in hand on anything anymore).|pg||
mb|p|nt|fnickell: 4 boards to go> Rubin needs to boogie. Results look too flat at the other table to afford realistic chance for them to rally.|pg||
nt|kit: A normal 4@H contract which can be defeated on a club ruff -- found in other room|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|gosia: I first played 2 systems with Dorothy Truscott in 1984|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: Anyway before that ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gosia: Anyone before that ? Kibbitzers ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: needs to play to set up side suit and is|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe he'll hit a major-suit fit|pg||
nt|kit: this one might not be so flat|pg||
nt|mrdct: rubin need some hands with swing chances and this certainly has that|pg||
nt|fnickell: tough too find the rough|pg||
pc|cT|nt|tez: 5@c good game with open cards|pg||
nt|kit: good lead -- and that will probably lock up the match|pg||
nt|dburn: the thing is that North's hand is so bad|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: asking about the 10 lead|pg||
nt|fnickell: wow on the lead...duplicated at both tables|pg||
nt|mrdct: doubleton leads usually aren't that attractive - but north doing well to find it here|pg||
nt|dburn: that he will look on a club lead as the only way in which he might contribute|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: polish stand|pg||
nt|kit: they are more attractive when you are broke -- better chance of catching pard with something good|pg||
nt|dburn: still and all, I'd forgive myself and any of my partners for leading a boring diamond|pg||
nt|kit: gotta lead with a plan.  Club lead is lead with a plan.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|dburn: standard Polish is to lead low from doubletons, but not from two to an honour|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gosia: pard may have good hand with 4 cd M|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 28 minutes left in the clock|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Vugraph7: jassem left the room|pg||
nt|gosia: strong club when opponents vul I think, and polish club when not|pg||
nt|fann4: Looks like 1 down.|pg||
nt|fann4: On bd 27, OR in 3NT (where 5@C was played here, down 1)|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gracelin: declarer can make 4 with a good guess in heart, which he will probably not|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if jansma allowed to win this trick must play a trump|pg||
nt|tez: rehi all|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gosia: good lead - the only one to beat the hand|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|ybob: lucky 11 tricks now|pg||
nt|dburn: and the ten is, in this context, an honor|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: jassem wanted to see the last trick, but west said too late|pg||
nt|po-s: not quite, diamond to ace and club shift is ok too|pg||
nt|kit: note declarer put up queen of clubs to try to force South to take ace, which would work if South was out of entries|pg||
pc|s2|nt|dburn: and if he does not - well, he does have the queen of clubs|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|brolucius: North seems to have disguised his diamond holding, to encourage declarer to misguess in hearts.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, if I were going to lead a club as North I'd lead the three (if I were a standard Pole)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gosia: ok specs- other than a @d and a @c switch :)|pg||
pc|d7|nt|gracelin: declarer play safe for 3, in 4S he needs to give up the trump first|pg||
nt|gosia: The trick was to be able to put it all on a single convention card - took me 2 months :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pc|c8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SA643HADJT843C874,SJ98HQJ95DAQ976CJ,SKT72H863DK2CT952,SQ5HKT742D5CAKQ63|sv|o|nt|kit: depends on what you call a psych.  Zia probably thinks his hand is worth 12 points|pg||
nt|landen: let's call it offbeat then, OK?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|inquiry: two more boards in this set....|pg||
mb|p!|an|no alert|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|kit: Not sure why Zia didn't just bid 2@H -- maybe that would show 5?|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|me argent: making 2@Hs wont be easy without a little help|pg||
nt|me argent: that lead didnt help|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kit: Rodwell knows the hand is mis-fittish, so he won't be competing I don't think|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|kit: wow -- Zia passed 2@D.  That is quite a positin|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|bigtrain: @C2 is another standard card|pg||
nt|landen: it appears that's what his partner hoped for|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|genesaxe: that makes more sense.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|h5|nt|inquiry: @S5 ?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|hJ|nt|kit: Looks like declarer has 6 unavoidable losers|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|cJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SA643HADJT843C874,SJ98HQJ95DAQ976CJ,SKT72H863DK2CT952,SQ5HKT742D5CAKQ63|sv|o|nt|brolucius: 'Only a part score', but a full 8 IMPs changed hands.|pg||
nt|gosia: It was Benito Garozzos idea , he said after strong club, opponnets frivolus to interfere if not vulnerable|pg||
nt|dburn: bid up, partner - even with that trash|pg||
nt|gosia: my spy tells me Poles perfect on last 3 bds at the other table....|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ritong: right|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: hard to see rubin gaining on this board|pg||
mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this slam unlikely to be bid|pg||
nt|dburn: then we should applaud Team Poland, who played four-handed from start to finish|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 12 min in the clock :)|pg||
nt|gosia: very impressive|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: he has the 4h in his hand but thinking it|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The ideal result in a final trial is that one team crushes the other. The country can then be happy that their strongest players will represent them. Not the same after a 6-IMP ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: win.|pg||
nt|gracelin: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i believe jassem actually has two convention cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: jansma and verhees very well played i think in this tourney|pg||
mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|fann4: A normal but hopeless 3NT, which W is playing in the OR.|pg||
nt|kit: hard to imagine any other contract than 4@H|pg||
nt|fnickell: good match. Rubin will run out of boards. Great win for the Polish team, particularly playing 4 handed. Clap for the winners.|pg||
nt|mrdct: always hard to tell on vugraph but i think EW have been the main time culprits here so any slow play fines should go to the rubin team|pg||
nt|kit: South will continue diamonds when in with ace of hearts, hoping his partner has the stiff, and declarer will then take the rest|pg||
nt|dburn: no matter|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fnickell: not close on the culpability on the time fines|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|gosia: who are u pls ? :)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: their defense has been really solid|pg||
pc|c9|nt|brolucius: 2NT was an alternative for East (unless that is played as a forcing relay). He must care for the heart fit being 4-3. West has now said 'No, I hold four hearts, but only a minimum ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: hand.'|pg||
nt|brolucius: ...cater for...|pg||
nt|ybob: 6@C EW , 6@D / @S too :)|pg||
nt|avivs: can make 6 in either minor (or even in spades with the lucky 3-3 break)|pg||
nt|ybob: not @D |pg||
nt|fnickell: i wish they really had fines|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gracelin: even with 4-H I might pass 1H with the West hand though I normally will give a raise with 4|pg||
nt|Walddk3: I gave you the link to both convention cards earlier|pg||
nt|Walddk3: They play differently, depending on vulnerability|pg||
nt|fann4: Maybe EW play something different here - normally 1NT is 18-19.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Polish Club and Precision|pg||
nt|phantoma: too strong for 2@C opening|pg||
nt|ybob: 5/1 @D|pg||
nt|po-s: I don´t think South will continue diamonds -|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|fabsayc: lost them roland, give us them again|pg||
nt|fann4: Wonder what 2NT opening shows with these guys?|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/ynk8p2   Martens-Jassem NV|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/2cvxfj   Martens-Jassem VUL|pg||
nt|fann4: GIB says this can make, double dummy maybe. Declarer has to play a @C now.|pg||
nt|gosia: I had 3 - one for each system - and 1 for the combined|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Impossible to get it right single dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk3: It is even difficult to spot with all cards in view|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes club to king and diamond hook, later heart hook|pg||
nt|gosia: martens needs to cover |pg||
nt|Walddk3: AQ@C (overtaken by the K), J @D, then @D, J@C, @H twice and a diamond. Virtually impossible|pg||
nt|fabsayc: works if south has any doubleton honour|pg||
nt|Walddk3: But that is the winning line|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The defence will duck @DJ of course|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s3|nt|gosia: sorry meant private|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s2|nt|dburn: but while applauding Team Poland, we might also wish Rubin himself a speedy recovery|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|gosia: I hear bd 12 NS in 3 @h so lead swings back again|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|drewsky: You mean monetary fines or IMP fines, Nick ?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|Walddk3: In the other room Gierulski played for North to have Kx in hearts|pg||
nt|fnickell: Get well Ron Rubin|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|Walddk3: So @HA and a small|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|Walddk3: At least he got the 4-2 right|pg||
nt|fann4: It's a complicated hand, but certainly a case to play N for 3@D with 1 honour and 5@S.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if they duck diamond you can hook hearts and endplay north|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|mc|11|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1ST6HK2DKT9CAJ8732,SQ42H9654DJ853CT5,S8753H83DAQ42CQ94,SAKJ9HAQJT7D76CK6|sv|n|nt|me argent: AND LAST|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|me argent: anoyher slam|pg||
mb|3C|mb|d|nt|me argent: t|pg||
nt|inquiry: they will not allow impossible claims, as played that one could not be down one.. so I think Lew won the club and shifted to a @H to get it down one....|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|inquiry: 2@D is the huge hand for NS|pg||
nt|me argent: it certainly is|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: jeff's 1NT is 14-16|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu3: Both tables are finished, but we are leaving this up to try to enter the results from the other room. Will start again at 4:00 NY time|pg||
nt|Vugraphu3: Play has concluded for the morning here. We will restart at approximately 4:00 NY time. We are leaving this table up to try to get the results from the Closed Room entered|pg||
nt|inquiry: 2@D is 22+ hcp in their method|pg||
pc|c4|nt|inquiry: with at least: (a) a 5+ card major or, (b) a 6+ card minor and shortness somewhere. Rarely it’s stronger (10+ tricks in your own hand, at least 5-5 in @ds plus a Major). Never ...|pg||
nt|inquiry: 4-4-3-2 or 4-3-3-3|pg||
nt|inquiry: mabye chip didn't bid 5@S|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|me argent: maybe|pg||
nt|inquiry: A kibitzer pointed out never seen 5 keycards...and the trump queen response to blackwood.. me neither if that is what this is......|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
nt|inquiry: this is a lot of spades... but it can make.. now will it|pg||
nt|me argent: this should make with carefull play|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|me argent: ruff @H high draw trumps and set up @Ds|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1ST6HK2DKT9CAJ8732,SQ42H9654DJ853CT5,S8753H83DAQ42CQ94,SAKJ9HAQJT7D76CK6|sv|n|nt|brolucius: South knows, from the lack of a club continuation, that North is out of clubs. But in fact the defenders would have scored a trick more on a passive continuation. |pg||
nt|gracelin: it seems NS has lost interest in this game|pg||
nt|brolucius: I said that I would commentate on session 8, but I don't think I will need to set my alarm clock tomorrow. |pg||
nt|fabsayc: but all double dummy|pg||
nt|tez: the penultimate board|pg||
nt|tez: last one|pg||
nt|fnickell: some kind of fine that people care about|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|gracelin: No David, likely not|pg||
nt|ybob: with 10 @D stiff can make 6@D on last board , good point Ralph |pg||
nt|tez: artificial systems have some disadvantages..i think they must play slam when oppenents don't overcall..|pg||
nt|mrdct: perhaps loss of seeding points into the US Trials|pg||
nt|gosia: like the seeding point suggestion|pg||
mb|2D|nt|brolucius: Both teams can enjoy a glass of Taiwanese whisky after two more boards (for different reasons).|pg||
nt|gosia: They'll probably take a 10 break |pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: Martens will be explaining to Lesniewski: "when you have @hKJ10xxxx and a side ace, and partner opens the bidding, just bid game"|pg||
nt|gosia: slam ? who would bid it ?|pg||
nt|avivs: 5@h?|pg||
nt|gosia: I can hear them David :)|pg||
nt|tez: 5@h..from martens|pg||
nt|dburn: well, maybe|pg||
nt|dburn: if you use 30+ minutes more than your alloted time in a match, you should simply lose the match|pg||
mb|2N|nt|gracelin: it's a habit in Taiwan, if one team concede in the trial, the other team shud treat them with a real nice dinner|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 4@D is very pushy|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: i would prefer competitive double |pg||
nt|gracelin: and I am bidding 4H with the North hand|pg||
nt|avivs: they better miss this slam|pg||
nt|dburn: but 5@s is normal|pg||
nt|gosia: he would have bid 5c help asking - out of space here- has to settle|pg||
mb|3C|nt|brolucius: Perhaps spades should be better for that.|pg||
nt|gosia: Louk might save anyway|pg||
mb|d|nt|avivs: I guess they play some kind of Un vs Un so he knows partner is not too strong|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this looks to be down 1 but maybe there is a sqeeze|pg||
mb|3H|nt|bjacobs: There might be an accident on lead now|pg||
nt|gracelin: DA lead wll see 4H home|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: The Multi, it seems, is becoming increasingly popular - quite a few pairs used it this event.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is popular at the highest level, raises eyebrows at other levels since not generally allowed in NA|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: but how else can you get to 3N when partner has Ax Kx xx KQJxxxx|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or even a squeeze|pg||
nt|kit: but you can't determine "alloted time" -- that's the problem -- as it is the time of the table, not of the pair|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: Verhees won't bid - why would you take the opponents out of five of a major?|pg||
nt|gosia: I think Louk was afraid they may take the push - but then he can save in 7@d :)|pg||
nt|gosia: use a chess clock|pg||
pc|c9|nt|fann4: Don't see it.|pg||
nt|kit: chess clock is awful for several reasons|pg||
nt|gosia: we had a timer once with a clock|pg||
nt|fnickell: how about from bridge?|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gosia: the game playing can be easily caught|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Bidding 3@H and then 4@H is not standard tactics. North had some reason to fear a minor-suit game for E-W. |pg||
nt|tez: please notice that just changing @C queen into the king makes GRAND slam a good contract...|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dT|nt|gracelin: no conceding, Nan Yuan will surely play tomorrow ater this gain.  Only need about 11 of this size to turn around|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then west would likely have found some other bid over 3@S|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fann4: There are so many different ways to play the Multi. |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|brolucius: Yes, Peter makes a good point about 3NT. I remember reading some learned book about using a double in that way.|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
mc|8|nt|dburn: it's true that there would be problems implementing "chess clocks" in bridge - it's not as simple as it sounds|pg||
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qx|o32|st||md|2SA98H63DK9654CQJ6,SK765HKQ7DJTCT852,ST32HJ954D832CAK4,SQJ4HAT82DAQ7C973|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H!|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SA98H63DK9654CQJ6,SK765HKQ7DJTCT852,ST32HJ954D832CAK4,SQJ4HAT82DAQ7C973|sv|e|nt|gracelin: last board today.  The next set will start 13 hours and 15 minutes from now. |pg||
nt|Vugraph7: finally the last hand if this first quarter, hope to see you all in some minutes for the second!!|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Last board of the first set now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but the lack of a cuebid makes multi tough to defend|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good defense breaking up any possible squeeze|pg||
nt|avivs: 6@d or 6@h would have gone -3 (after normal losing 2 tricks in @h's)|pg||
nt|dburn: especially when you can't be sure of beating six (or seven)|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: last hand of this 3erd quarter, hope to see you all for the last 16 boards of this final|pg||
nt|kit: it has been done in past -- and rejected|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: director here, but they started the last hand with one minute to go so they can play it now |pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Many thanks to Catalina Robles, our hard working and very capable operator in Detroit. Well done!|pg||
nt|fann4: Yes, on many hands you have to wait to find out their suit and then enter.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|tez: 2@d gf  2@h inv right?|pg||
nt|tez: if verhees pass|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: last hand here of this second quarter, hope to see you all here in 1 hr 45 min for the last 32 boards :)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Vugraph7: it will continue in 30 minutes aprox|pg||
nt|dburn: but glacially slow play is also awful, and for more obvious reasons|pg||
mb|d|nt|gracelin: 4H ison with SK unexpectly being on side and DQ drops.  Even the singleton D lead won't hurt|pg||
nt|gracelin: but 3NT will not be a success|pg||
nt|gosia: Congratulations to the Polish team - and a speedy recovery to Ronnie Rubin from his pneumonia and on his teams performance as well !! :)|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: ok last hand!! :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Also thanks to our many excellent commentators for guiding us through the 16 boards|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tez: ty all:)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Finally, our appreciations to ACBL and Rick Beye in particular for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate|pg||
nt|bessi2: verhees will presumably lead the ace of spades|pg||
mb|2D|nt|fann4: In the OR, W was able to compete with 3@D with only 3 trumps. Not sure how or why.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade queen tempting but a disaster|pg||
mb|2H|nt|avivs: I think Martens bid enough|pg||
nt|gosia: The players will now go to the Vugraph room in Detroit and hoist the well earned trophy :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: South rightly prefers 4@H, holding no top heart honour and four-card support.|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: for those of you sending me messages in polish, all i can answer is with a :)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Our estimate is that there will be a break for about 15 minutes|pg||
nt|gosia: Poles will pick up 2 so lots of excitement to come !|pg||
nt|gosia: My favorite handicapper picked poles by a fraction :)|pg||
nt|gosia: imps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but added footnote, if they dont fall asleep|pg||
nt|gosia: u were paying attention last night :)|pg||
nt|fann4: The Polish Club promises 4!+D.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Often 5|pg||
nt|fann4: 4+@D|pg||
nt|Walddk3: can be 3 with 4441 or 4 diamonds and 5 clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk3: can be 4 I mean|pg||
nt|Walddk3: But it is always an unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|tez: q of @s:)|pg||
nt|avivs: voila|pg||
nt|gosia: cause the other table so slow ? :)|pg||
nt|gosia: they're on bd 13|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: that's fast for Weichsel|pg||
pc|d5|nt|dburn: we have enough technology now to keep a realistic track of the time spent by each player on each decision - we should use it|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: Patrick predicts that the concession will be held up for a session ot two, until the losers are ready for their excellent free meal.|pg||
nt|brolucius: If I had a free meal for every match that I conceded, I would be a happy man indeed.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Balanced hands are opened 1@C|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk3: We know there is a typo on the banner (top)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: This is NOT a recording; this is live bridge from Detroit|pg||
nt|tez: Ew playing udca, @s 8 to lead appeared as big|pg||
nt|tez: udca=up side down attitude|pg||
nt|Walddk3: I am getting about 109 private messages a minute at the moment. Please understand that I can't respond to all of them. Thank you|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 1 minute in the clock|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s5|nt|tez: udca=Up side Down Count & Attitude|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Might be useful to mention that once a board starts being bid it cannot be taken away anyway, time violation or not.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yesterday they played only 14 of 16 in last round because of slow play|pg||
nt|fann4: The defence seems to be grinding here. A simple COUNT card in @D makes it so easy.|pg||
nt|gosia: I think it was the day before they took away 2 boards|pg||
nt|fann4: Cash a 2nd @D and play a @S, forcing W to overtake.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fann4: By eall|pg||
nt|fann4: all|pg||
nt|bessi2: thanks all|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: bye all !!|pg||
nt|tez: bye all|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks to all|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|cicus: now makes|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: director is in the room|pg||
nt|fann4: Now suddenly POL pick up 6 imps, instead of 2.|pg||
nt|gosia: no A @d - heart then exit with a club after unsuccesful finess|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he can cash diamond and exit in hearts but then thrown in with 3rd club|pg||
nt|gosia: will be great play by J|pg||
nt|tez: he should overtake 2nd @s and give a ruff|pg||
nt|avivs: he has a shot if plays spades first than back to board for a diamond through followed by another diamond to endplay East|pg||
nt|gosia: Happy Roland sent me here :)|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|kit: the problem with chess clocks is that it encourages players to play in such a way as to cause the opponents to use time ...|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gracelin: you know how much is the entry ee ?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Tell me|pg||
nt|brolucius: More than the cost of egg fried rice.|pg||
nt|gracelin: just kidding, not much, only about US$300|pg||
nt|gracelin: but they will be on their own to both the PABF Congress in Australia and the Mind Sport game in Beijing|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer has the chance of an elimination play. Not that he needs it with the @DQ falling.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gosia: hearts first Aviv|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gosia: ooops pPeter will no get ended|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|avivs: he had to win first @c on board to lead hearts and then do the rest|pg||
nt|dburn: he's OK|pg||
nt|ybob: good try by W|pg||
nt|gosia: A very well played match, ig a bit slow :)|pg||
nt|kit: for example, I have a claim.  But instead of claiming, I run a long suit, and they lose time figuring out their discards|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think bridge should come to this|pg||
nt|gosia: I will be watching and penalize you for it :)|pg||
nt|fnickell: Kit's point is correct, but it is better than what we have now.|pg||
nt|mrdct: that can be dealt with by ethics and proprieties though|pg||
nt|kit: how can you say something about a player's failure to claim?  You can't require that.  Maybe he miscounted his tricks.|pg||
nt|dburn: enough, perhaps - this is the end of the Vanderbilt, and time to cheer the winners|pg||
pc|d2|nt|gracelin: after trumps clears and CK dislodged, declarer will cash one high D before the club exit|pg||
nt|gosia: now|pg||
nt|fnickell: Kit, this can be dealt with.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|tez: after weichsel ruffed overtakes @d and exits with trump at hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and this one seems automatic|pg||
nt|fann4: A baby hand from here on in. E must have the @CQ for his opening bid, and he will be endplayed.|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|gracelin: ad the DQ is dropped|pg||
nt|dburn: as long as he does not put the jack on this trick, and why would he?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|Vugraph7: bye all for now|pg||
nt|fann4: Bye for now.|pg||
nt|gosia: Please come back in 10 minutes !!! this is exciting|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fnickell: congrats to the winners.|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: The hope would be that the played who wins the third round of clubs has no safe exit (he must lead from the @DQ or give a ruff-and-discard).|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s6|nt|kit: well, it has been tried in the past, and believe me the results weren't good|pg||
pc|sT|nt|gosia: ping-pong|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|Vugraph7: ok bye for now|pg||
nt|dburn: and back and forth, and back and forth, and... back|pg||
nt|avivs: he was going down if West played another diamond|pg||
nt|gosia: mis calimed|pg||
nt|gosia: claimed|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: its good|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: 1 dw|pg||
nt|avivs: I think West maybe did play a diamond in which case good claim|pg||
nt|tez: neck and neck last round|pg||
nt|dburn: well, it's the score - whether or not it is "good" I leave to the judgement of the moral realists|pg||
nt|gosia: Jassem misclaimed if plays an off suit has to make it|pg||
nt|gosia: hope it does not cost them as it will be very painful loss|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|gosia: I did a few times but you were too busy clocking :)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gracelin: if he didn't see the DQ he shud cash the 2nd high D and exit club.  Eastis known to have 5S and 3H, so the end-play must work|pg||
nt|dburn: and to thank the ACBL and Bridge Base Online for allowing us to watch|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now declarer tries for a simple squeeze for an overtrick.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|brolucius: It does not work and he scores 10 tricks.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Bye for now|pg||
nt|gracelin: bye all, thans David and Peter, and our very capable operators|pg||
nt|gracelin: thanks|pg||
nt|vugraph bo: thanks everyone,see you nextday|pg||
nt|gracelin: and all the spectators you are most helpful in providing useful input|pg||
nt|gracelin: bye|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
mc|8|nt|gosia: and for providing the Venue and technology to do so|pg||
nt|Vugraph7: thanks all !!|pg||
nt|gosia: goodnite or good orning all :)|pg||
nt|gosia: and to our great Vugraph operator !|pg||
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