vg|2008 Vanderbilt Final - #12 vs #22,3rd Quarter,I,1,16,Rubin,60,Team Poland,69|
rs|4HW+1,4HW+1,3NE+1,3NE-1,4HS+2,4HS+1,1NN=,1NN=,4HWx-1,3HE=,4SW-2,4HS=,2CW=,3NE=,2SE-1,1NW=,3SN=,3SN-2,4SE+1,4SE+1,4SW+1,4SW=,3HS=,4HS=,2HE+1,3CW+2,4NW+1,3NW+4,5SS=,5SS=,2NS=,3CN-1|
pn|Lesniewski,Gierulski,Weichsel,Skrzypczak,Martens,Jansma,Jassem,Verhees|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3S3HQ32DQJ962C5432,SA84HT654D854CQJ6,SQ97652HJ8DAT3CK7,SKJTHAK97DK7CAT98|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/ys4qh3   Gierulski-Skrzypczak  CC|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Polish Club|pg||
nt|mcphee: does that mean is shines?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@C    1. 11-14 balanced - 2. 15-18 with clubs - 3. Any 19+|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: this is the 19+ option, 1@H promises a little more than sayc|pg||
nt|zlatanov: hence 19+ becomes a game force|pg||
nt|vugraph9: hello all,   3 folks speak polish and motion...no one writes little note,  they hardly discuss system  .... n|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|mcphee: looks like 11 tricks|pg||
nt|zlatanov: we are expecting a push...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think we've got the wrong spelling of East's name|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Anyone in the audience know?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Skrzypczak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Shirley?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
nt|zlatanov: in the CR Jassem opened the N hand, playing (I think) the more aggressive of the pair's two systems|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Can I phone a friend?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|Walddk2: And buy two vowels?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|mcphee: hehehe|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I think an extra z is needed:)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|zlatanov: I can offer mine...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Skrzypczak|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s8|nt|vugraph9: losing it wtih all the comotion |pg||
mc|11|nt|vugraph9: sorry all hope to get on track with theses guys|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3S3HQ32DQJ962C5432,SA84HT654D854CQJ6,SQ97652HJ8DAT3CK7,SKJTHAK97DK7CAT98|sv|o|nt|atlantajon: of his own making ...not acting over 2@d|pg||
nt|othered1: Somehow being given a free run from 2@H on should have let them investigate more efficiently.  Or maybe you need to spend more time on continuations after your very definitive ...|pg||
nt|othered1: leaping Micheals call.|pg||
nt|petergill: This Round 9 match is the most vital clash of the 2008 Camrose|pg||
nt|petergill: A NS slam to begin. |pg||
nt|granguru: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello Cornelia and Jon. Good luck!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: John I mean|pg||
nt|granguru: tks Roland..same to u|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|galadriel: Can someone give me a link to the ccs?|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Agreed Ed|pg||
nt|petergill: 6@C looks easy, but 6@H looks hard to make, with the bad heart break.|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6H needs a good view in trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|an|weak nat|nt|didev: http://www.bridgeur.be/teams07/|pg||
nt|galadriel: cheers :-)|pg||
nt|petergill: This transfer to clubs is be a good way to ensure that hearts is not the final contract. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6@C maybe|pg||
nt|vugraph14: a little think from West|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Hello Roland, and John!|pg||
mb|3H|nt|granguru: HI CHICK|pg||
nt|granguru: EW did well to stay out of the bidding|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|petergill: I think 3@C is the positive reply, showing a good fit in clubs, but I'm not sure. |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: North needs to find the @c lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: @C lead is pretty important here|pg||
nt|atlantajon: much better contract in the closed room....4@s by east....|pg||
pc|s6|nt|atlantajon: -1|pg||
nt|othered1: Would you have taken a slower auction as west?  Still would get the @S in the wrong hand.|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I would have bid 2@s over 2@h raise...then you get to 4@s....still from wrong side|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mmmakela: normally 2 NT shows pos|pg||
nt|petergill: 5NT was "pick a slam". A good auction. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: easy now|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hA|nt|granguru: now they need to cash the 2 round aces and 3 trump tricks|pg||
nt|granguru: which looks pretty easy|pg||
nt|granguru: from here|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|didev: open majors by 4 and easts plays 4@s|pg||
nt|atlantajon: or souths opens 1nt with his 15 hcp...then west shows the majors....and east plays a @s contract|pg||
nt|granguru: done|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|petergill: 920, a good start for Ireland. After 8 of 10 matches, England lead on 160 VPs, Ireland 2nd on 141 VPs. Ireland need a good win. |pg||
pc|h2|nt|mmmakela: H 10 the vital card|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|petergill: This is the second half of the Round 9 match.  |pg||
pc|cK|nt|didev: what happened with the @c lead?|pg||
nt|othered1: nice @H pips to have in dummy|pg||
nt|galadriel: How well do you know the teams Dirk?|pg||
nt|galadriel: Would BCOB be the fancied team?|pg||
nt|stevedr: yes|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|didev: i played them the last 2 years|pg||
nt|didev: but it was my last year:(|pg||
nt|didev: BCOB won the final the last 5 or 6 years|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ah, so they are very experienced|pg||
nt|didev: Amsel is new on the team|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|petergill: In Round 10, Ireland play Northern Ireland who are coming last, whereas England have a slightly tougher draw in CBAI, Ireland's 2nd team (the host country has two teams to prevent ...|pg||
nt|petergill: a bye). |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SA975H932DT63C985,SK42H85DAJ4CKJ742,SJTHQJT76DKQ52CQ3,SQ863HAK4D987CAT6|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Yes, but what about poor East and his name? He'll get frustrated|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Dave Thompson from Australia|pg||
nt|mrdct: hi everyoone|pg||
nt|mcphee: hi Dave|pg||
nt|mrdct: EW likely to get to 3NT here|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|mcphee: i expect so|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: looks like 3n for ew which needs a club guess it seems unless an unfortunate lead|pg||
mb|3N|nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/ys4qh3   Gierulski-Skrzypczak  CC|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|mrdct: can aford to get @C wrong now|pg||
nt|bessi2: indeed|pg||
nt|vugraph9: mild discussion |pg||
pc|s2|nt|mrdct: any ideas about what 2@s means?|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|mrdct: i'm told xfer to 3nt, no 4m, 13-17|pg||
nt|bessi2: balicki-zmudzinski had this sequence in an earlier match and then it showed balanced GF could have 4c major|pg||
nt|mcphee: well he seems to have about that Dave|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's all on the CC and the link I gave you|pg||
nt|mrdct: no 4M i should say|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Please keep it someone cos I am signing off soon|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/ys4qh3|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Skryz....studying tab le with chin in hand,,,,we know what "lightening speed" players these are (NOT)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|vugraph9: thanks all |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Open one browser window per table|pg||
pc|h3|nt|mrdct: east only has 8 sure tricks at this point|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mrdct: need to decide whether to source the 8th from @S or @D|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|mrdct: with @S looking a bit more likely based on the opening lead|pg||
nt|vugraph9: negotiating |pg||
pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h7|nt|mrdct: a more challenging @H lead in the closed room|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|mrdct: when i said "a bit more likely" i really should've said "a lot more likely"|pg||
nt|wojtekkk: k|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|mc|10|nt|mrdct: teh 2@S bid was effective in keeping north from bidding @H|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SA975H932DT63C985,SK42H85DAJ4CKJ742,SJTHQJT76DKQ52CQ3,SQ863HAK4D987CAT6|sv|n|nt|didev: championship|pg||
nt|didev: final of trial|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ok thx :-)|pg||
nt|didev: in a week or 2 weeks|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|boltonian2: hi all|pg||
nt|granguru: HI Alex|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 17+ any. |pg||
nt|chick: Hello Alex welcome :)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|didev: BCOB also favourite for trial for Europ champs|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Both sides have a double fit, may see a competitive auction|pg||
nt|didev: Cornelis Amsel were by far first in the butler of the round robin of the championship|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Patterson-Rees play a 14-16 NT |pg||
nt|granguru: so a in-between NT|pg||
mb|d|nt|petergill: 1@H = common expert practice to overcall on a  strong four card major if the hand is unsuitable for a t/o dbl. |pg||
mb|p|nt|mmmakela: wow N took a big chance imo|pg||
mb|1S|nt|granguru: tough to beat 1N here|pg||
nt|granguru: probably only a @C could have done it|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|granguru: with a @H return if declarer ducked|pg||
mb|2N|nt|atlantajon: 590 is this score|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Well, S didn't find out about the double fit|pg||
nt|galadriel: Which may have influenced his decision|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|mmmakela: ag many 11-13 game is on|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|benjy: Good afternoon|pg||
pc|cA|nt|petergill: 3NT fails by a trick or more, so this looks like a good stop by the Irish pair. |pg||
pc|c5|nt|granguru: The lead of AQJxx is most desirable against 3N but no so much against 1N|pg||
pc|c2|nt|boltonian2: declarer has a lot of options though, which could lead to mistake, discards might be difficult|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c6|nt|atlantajon: looks like 2 rounds of spades then @c's is the only play|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|petergill: Hi Ben  |pg||
nt|granguru: because you need 7 tricks to defeat the contract (vs only 5 in 3NT)|pg||
nt|chick: bad move, he needed the diamond trick|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|mmmakela: hi Ben|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|boltonian2: now he has pitched a diamond from dummy it should be fairly straight forward|pg||
pc|hA|nt|petergill: 1@S was alerted because it was not forcing. Yes, North took a calculated risk, and has survived. |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 172, IRELAND 159, WALES 145, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 113, N-IRELAND 82 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  12   18  IRL **** SCO 19  11 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 15  15 WAL***|pg||
nt|boltonian2: @S switch would have put this off|pg||
pc|c7|nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins correctly does not overruff. |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h4|nt|chick: bet he wishes now he'd kept that long diamond|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d5|nt|boltonian2: still is of course|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h9|mc|8|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SAQ5HQJT8653DKQ3C,ST8HK4D8654CJ9765,S973H972DAT97CKQT,SKJ642HADJ2CA8432|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Why aren't Rubin-Ekeblad playing (they did not in the 1st or 2nd either) I have been asked many times. I have no idea|pg||
nt|vugraph9: have no idea |pg||
nt|mcphee: they have to play the next 1/4 don't they?|pg||
nt|wojtekkk: intersting system feature of Polish pair|pg||
nt|bessi2: Rubin is ill|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I hear that Rubin is ill|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thank you|pg||
nt|mrdct: i expect NS to get to 4@H here|pg||
nt|mcphee: that is sad|pg||
nt|vugraph9: everyone is sick here.  sort head cold or flum|pg||
nt|vugraph9: *flu |pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|vugraph9: Peter writing about his bid |pg||
mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 2@H looks pretty natural but probably has a whole bunch of negative inferences that need to be disclosed|pg||
pc|sT|nt|zlatanov: S didn't much care what 2@H was :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|nt|mrdct: this lead will put declarer's mind at ease|pg||
nt|mcphee: a dull hand|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good night folks, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|mrdct: might crash the @H honours|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter out of room  |pg||
nt|mcphee: good day Roland|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: not sure what the point of cash the @SA is|pg||
nt|mcphee: this is a strange play|pg||
mc|11|nt|mcphee: ok that @S play came later and the same 11 tricks|pg||
nt|mrdct: i think he drew trumps first|pg||
nt|vugraph9: corrected, made +2,   all discussion in polish|pg||
nt|vugraph9: yes think so |pg||
nt|mcphee: ahhh so he crashed the trumps|pg||
nt|vugraph9: I am going to go to tourney's and give vugraph instructions for THE players |pg||
nt|mrdct: east probably telling his partnet that if declarer had @HAQ he would've been finessing and not leading a @H towards dummy|pg||
nt|vugraph9: actually for all I know they are talking about the weather|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter back in room now,  we move on |pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SAQ5HQJT8653DKQ3C,ST8HK4D8654CJ9765,S973H972DAT97CKQT,SKJ642HADJ2CA8432|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@S 10-16, 5+ spades|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|petergill: 1NT 6-12 semi-forcing|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: EW could have made 2@D most probably..but never entered|pg||
mb|p|nt|boltonian2: this 1NT looks even less likely to make|pg||
pc|sT|nt|petergill: 2@S looks touch and go. Will probably make, but we will see. |pg||
nt|benjy: i don't think it can make with accurate defense|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|atlantajon: a few more imps for E/W|pg||
nt|didev: some imps for Uccle|pg||
nt|mmmakela: EW has a shot at 3@C so 2@S made good|pg||
pc|hT|nt|galadriel: Oh well EW going to go plus|pg||
pc|h4|nt|benjy: Crouch will need to play ace and another @D at somepoint to defeat this|pg||
pc|h2|nt|petergill: The club attack is best. The defence needs to shorten South to three trumps before the 13th heart is set up. |pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dK|nt|granguru: almost impossible|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|galadriel: 1NT an interesting choice by S|pg||
nt|granguru: nice if -1|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|petergill: Sorry, you are all right - a diamond attack at some time does better. |pg||
pc|d5|nt|granguru: a good result against 2@D +90|pg||
nt|chick: he'll be lucky (or good) if he can get 5 tricks|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|galadriel: I suppose it was natural?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|galadriel: Could he have been suggesting the minors after the redouble?|pg||
mc|11|nt|atlantajon: might have been|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2S752H862DT75CQJ94,SQJ843HT94D8CKT63,SA96HQ53DAKQ62C52,SKTHAKJ7DJ943CA87|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: NS could go for number here|pg||
mb|p|pc|hA|nt|mrdct: but east needed to double|pg||
nt|bessi2: this wil not be an easy switch for e to make here|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d3|nt|mrdct: that's not the best switch|pg||
nt|zlatanov: same as CR|pg||
nt|mcphee: @D looks safe|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter asking if 2nd 5th|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraph9: 4th|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|nt|zlatanov: push|pg||
nt|mcphee: well that should suit him just fine|pg||
nt|mrdct: weichsel stealing tricks left right and centre|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bessi2: and they made 1n in the other room aswell|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mrdct: defense is a lot easier when you can see all four hands|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|h8|nt|mrdct: a specs suggests that west's @H9 could've been a signal for @S - but perhaps it was just count or reverse attitude|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|mc|7|nt|mcphee: seems he is going to make 2 now|pg||
nt|mrdct: @H10 may have been a better card at trick for west to play|pg||
nt|mrdct: *trick one|pg||
nt|mcphee: looked like E was getting ended|pg||
nt|vugraph9: need to give  lessons on not huddling over cards here|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2S752H862DT75CQJ94,SQJ843HT94D8CKT63,SA96HQ53DAKQ62C52,SKTHAKJ7DJ943CA87|sv|b|nt|boltonian2: this could be interesting|pg||
nt|boltonian2: NS can make 5@H EW, will struggle in @S|pg||
mb|p|nt|didev: well stopped in 5 in the closed|pg||
nt|benjy: 1Nt - 14-16 in this position|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|granguru: NS can make 6@H guessing @D right|pg||
nt|boltonian2: if N overcalls 1@H, which seems normal, S will not stop short of 5@H|pg||
nt|chick: K-R 1C is 10+ but maybe only 2 clubs|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 2 A's?|pg||
nt|granguru: ooops sorry|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 4@C from patterson?|pg||
nt|chick: can make 12 tricks right after the oops take their 2 :)|pg||
nt|granguru: everything said was to make 5@H not 6|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|benjy: north would do very well to lead a @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yep..good old RKCB|pg||
nt|benjy: but a @S is normal|pg||
nt|granguru: good chick|pg||
nt|chick: hehe :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: this wont impress N overly greatly|pg||
nt|chick: been there done that :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: I imagine will just bid 4@H, such good clubs don't bode well, although opposite a singleton might not be too bad|pg||
nt|granguru: I said it just to see how many kibitzer are awake hearing us...|pg||
pc|hA|nt|Walddk4: http://www.cbai.ie/camrose/standings.html  for standings before the last round|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|benjy: he can make this if he guesses the @C suit|pg||
nt|benjy: looks like a pure guess to me|pg||
nt|mmmakela: won't guess it is my bet|pg||
nt|petergill: @S2 = 4th best - so North lacks a five card suit - so North might have some club length, so North more likely to have @CQ - perhaps? Perhaps not?|pg||
nt|benjy: North looks like he is 4333 or two 4 card suits, assuming they are playing 4th highest|pg||
nt|benjy: but that makes no difference to the odds|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16 in 1st and 2nd seat. |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d8|nt|mmmakela: so S more likely to have 4c clubs and the Q|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|othered1: can anyone decode this?|pg||
nt|petergill: I just printed out Peter Crouch and Glyn Liggins Convention Card - all 12 pages of it!|pg||
nt|granguru: EW abandoned the fight early|pg||
nt|chick: low diamond?|pg||
nt|granguru: probably it will not work after W openend the hand|pg||
pc|d5|nt|granguru: lets see|pg||
nt|vugraph14: he heard u :-)|pg||
nt|granguru: At least S is thinking...|pg||
pc|h9|nt|atlantajon: 2@c is a game frocing relay asking for more info...I think 2@h is good hand with @h shortness|pg||
nt|othered1: It's always nice to know what information is available to the players to see how they deal with it (and if system provides room they need to make accurate decisions)|pg||
nt|atlantajon: after that I think we have continued relay asks....|pg||
nt|stevedr: probably 4c-4s all pass|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
nt|atlantajon: that would end it Steve|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|atlantajon: 3@c..control of clubs...3@s  first round....4@c re-ask.....4@d first and second|pg||
pc|dA|nt|benjy: i know it all Peter so you don't need it|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ybob: Hi Y´all  :)|pg||
nt|didev: hi Rob|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hmmm, now they can't check up on keycards|pg||
nt|atlantajon: hola roberto|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hello :-)|pg||
nt|othered1: 5@C is natural?|pg||
nt|atlantajon: must be|pg||
nt|othered1: odd, if south has been the relayer|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I agree|pg||
nt|atlantajon: pass or XX would be the responces over 4@hX...pass confirms stiff...XX shows void|pg||
nt|ybob: is 2@H any min hand without 4@H ?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|petergill: South has to be very careful NOT to ask for a diamond switch - tricky!|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|atlantajon: good choice|pg||
nt|othered1: Looks like south made the right decision.  I wonder what were the key considerations|pg||
nt|atlantajon: get out of an auction that has gone astray...as soon as you are in a playable place|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I think the response to 4@hX threw him|pg||
nt|ybob: 4@H X ; pass no control , bid = 2º control , XX first control|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yes|pg||
nt|othered1: How do you know a relay auction has gone astray, unless partner has made an impossible bid.|pg||
nt|stevedr: lol|pg||
nt|atlantajon: but I think that he already knew about the stiff...as I think 2@h showed Non-min with heart shortness|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I think he knew partner had made the impossible bid with 5@c|pg||
nt|atlantajon: choices, if the stiff is known, are pass showing stiff....XX showing void|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 2@H was @S  and a minor 3@S was short @H 4@D was min or exactly singl @H 5@C nat|pg||
nt|othered1: Thank you!|pg||
nt|atlantajon: thanks|pg||
nt|didev: must leave- good evening all|pg||
nt|atlantajon: you are great frederic  :)|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: West had in the same problem|pg||
nt|granguru: Fortunatelly I didnt bet that Coke|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|benjy: down 1|pg||
pc|sK|nt|petergill: @H2 was encouraging. even = encouraging is how NS play their first discard. |pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|mmmakela: good def|pg||
nt|petergill: Many Souths would wrongly have asked for a diamond switch. John Carroll did well to work out that a heart switch will always beat 1NT, whereas a diamond switch might not.  |pg||
nt|petergill: Of such things are winners made, at bridge. |pg||
nt|benjy: well, if he had pitched a @C then wouldn't south had switched to a @H?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sT|nt|benjy: suggesting equalish holdings in the reds?|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|benjy: north rather|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SKJ3HJ2DAT952CA82,ST5HKQT754DK3CQJT,SAQ2H6DQJ86C96543,S98764HA983D74CK7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|mcphee: E unblocked K@S for sure|pg||
nt|vugraph9: yes|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mcphee: rather chunky for weak jump|pg||
nt|mrdct: both sides look like they can make 9 tricks in their respective red suits|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: a majors two-suiter by E in the CR, here NS could  the D fit|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mrdct: some care will need to be taken by the defence here as east's @S suit might get established|pg||
nt|bessi2: a 6 imps swing here for rubin for sure|pg||
pc|d4|nt|mrdct: yep - can't possibly make it now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|vugraph9: big discussion   Peter thought |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|mcphee: martens sitting S at the other room is Lesniewskis' regualr partner in Poland I believe|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|mcphee: apparently that was a looooooooong time ago|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I think Martens has been playing with Jassem for a while now|pg||
nt|vugraph9: lost it again |pg||
nt|zlatanov: the 3H bid by N won the board|pg||
nt|mcphee: have you been into the vino Shirl?:)|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SKJ3HJ2DAT952CA82,ST5HKQT754DK3CQJT,SAQ2H6DQJ86C96543,S98764HA983D74CK7|sv|n|nt|granguru: S thought but N was the declarer!|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: surprised he didnt get that right, but made little difference|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: Since South can calculate that a heart switch will ALWAYS defeat 1NT, even if it gives declarer a cheap trick with @HK, South should take charge and demand the heart switch. Good ...|pg||
nt|petergill: defence. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: E must find a bid now|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Probably get a @C lead and only make 10|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yep|pg||
nt|ybob: 1@D = 11/15 ?|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dQ|nt|stevedr: y|pg||
nt|atlantajon: must be..|pg||
nt|othered1: a transfer bid at the 4-level got north to 4@H in the other room, avoiding the @C lead|pg||
nt|galadriel: UCCLE need a few bigger swings though|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|mmmakela: saved by S|pg||
pc|hK|nt|atlantajon: more than a few....:)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|boltonian2: S seems to have taken a view|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|benjy: i cant stand X with the south hand|pg||
pc|h4|nt|benjy: if you are going to bid then surely 1NT is right|pg||
nt|petergill: John Carroll was opposite a Passed Hand, so he might conceivably have passed out 1@S. |pg||
nt|chick: don't see anything in their cc about canape|pg||
pc|c9|nt|petergill: The Irish style is to get in there and bid a lot, do lots of t/o dbl's, not a winner this time....|pg||
nt|mmmakela: pass seems best ag passed pd w 4333|pg||
nt|benjy: and he will pay for his protection as this looks like it will make|pg||
nt|petergill: Would everyone have opened 1@S?|pg||
nt|mmmakela: little to win but lots to lose|pg||
nt|benjy: 100% 1@S|pg||
nt|benjy: do you think you are worth a game force?|pg||
nt|benjy: and you will never get all of your suits across opening 2@C|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 1@S for me too|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|petergill: After 3 passes, and thus with a huge chance of being passed out, I would have opened 2@C, because all my suits can then be conveniently bid, i.e 2@C does not destroy our auction. |pg||
pc|h9|mc|9|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4S84HAK97642D732C8,SQJ965HQDQT65CK53,SA3HJ83DJ984CAQJ4,SKT72HT5DAKCT9762|sv|e|nt|zlatanov: but Martens has been around for even longer:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@h is a fairly lucky contract|pg||
nt|bessi2: hmm   strange decision not to open 3h there|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|vugraph9: no I dont drink wine|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: Martens another frivolous 4-level opening|pg||
nt|mrdct: one can afford to be frivolous at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|mcphee: and a lucky make |pg||
nt|zlatanov: I think we had one yesterday...|pg||
nt|zlatanov: and a Polish player commented that it is his style now|pg||
nt|mrdct: if he bids 4@h - he still has losing options with the 2-way finesse in @C available|pg||
nt|mcphee: once W opens that task my be easier|pg||
nt|bessi2: weichsel will surely raise this to game|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter with head in hand thinking, now loooking ar cards,  |pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|mcphee: may be some blood here|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: even with the @DAK blocked, declarer could choose to pitch @D when he misguesses @C and runs the Q - thereby losing 1@S, 1@C and 2@D. but we wont see that now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|zlatanov: well who should have doubled?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|inquiry: this can't be right|pg||
nt|mcphee: i thot Peter may have taken a swing at this|pg||
nt|zlatanov: from the point of view of either S or N 4S may be making|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d2|mc|8|nt|bessi2: yes.. especially given the opps bidding...  a 3rd hand opener and a passed hand bids the game after no interest|pg||
pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4S84HAK97642D732C8,SQJ965HQDQT65CK53,SA3HJ83DJ984CAQJ4,SKT72HT5DAKCT9762|sv|e|nt|benjy: Yes, it would have defeated the contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Starting to see some results now, the 5 imps is from board 1|pg||
mb|4H|nt|boltonian2: dont agree with the double I am afraid|pg||
nt|granguru: dont agree with S double|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|atlantajon: anyone know about 2@s...I have used it as a minor preempt...but with 4@h's?|pg||
nt|ybob: weak 1 minor ?|pg||
nt|stevedr: 6-4|pg||
nt|atlantajon: if so...it gives up on too many hands that @h's are the better place to place|pg||
nt|granguru: it is usually wrong to ask for suit(s) if you have a one-suited hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 170, IRELAND 161, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 110, N-IRELAND 82 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  10   20  IRL **** SCO 19  11 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 12  18 WAL***|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: England misguesed the hearts on Bd 1 in 6NT, so Ireland are getting closer to England's lead in the overall standings. |pg||
nt|granguru: the x and a second round suit normally shows a Gosh hand...|pg||
nt|granguru: from 17 up|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|chick: They play transfer responses over 1C (presumably the same over 1C X?)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|petergill: Thanks diumraid|pg||
nt|boltonian2: think this will end in 3N|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|atlantajon: this is a good place|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 3 @C was @S and 3N 6 @D and 4 @H|pg||
nt|atlantajon: you were right Steve|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: was not 6-4 but 6 @D and maybe 4 @H never @S|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|petergill: For the website, go to www.cbai.ie/camrose - it has the scores up to Round 8. |pg||
pc|hA|nt|benjy: what is north thinking about? Doubling?|pg||
nt|benjy: that would be madness|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|othered1: This is just an exercise in taking top tricks, likely 9 of them|pg||
nt|mmmakela: at pairs dbl tempting|pg||
pc|h4|nt|boltonian2: but maybe not|pg||
nt|boltonian2: probably wise|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ybob: the best def  but cant defeat  |pg||
nt|othered1: with 4-3 @C break, it's easy|pg||
nt|galadriel: Good try by EW|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s8|nt|benjy: as long as the defense refrain from playing on @D this will not make|pg||
nt|petergill: The slightly lucky 5 imps to Ireland on Bd 2 makes the contest even closer, allowing for England's lead before this match. |pg||
nt|benjy: J of @C must be right here|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|benjy: declarer cannot have the Ace on this auction|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sK|mc|10|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SAQJ84H87DQ63CKT3,S6532H65DA82CA642,ST9HQJT932DT9C985,SK7HAK4DKJ754CQJ7|sv|b|nt|mcphee: some suggest pass of 4@S was Forcing, but that is not so|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|forcing|nt|zlatanov: S's opening pass made life difficult for NS|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes|pg||
nt|zlatanov: passing with AK 7th is rather unnatuarl|pg||
nt|pelepele: click on call director buton|pg||
nt|mcphee: and 4@S would not have been thot of had he open 3@H|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter writing a long note to Skrz|pg||
nt|mrdct: it will be hard to replicate the closed room result now i think|pg||
nt|zlatanov: not "semiforcing"?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: still writing can you believe?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: N is glad he is not palying 1N passable...|pg||
nt|calabres: .|pg||
mb|d|mb|p!|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: well-well|pg||
nt|mrdct: swing to rubin|pg||
nt|vugraph9: indeed|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mcphee: well might have passed the dble|pg||
nt|bessi2: that was a very curious decision by Gielrulski to bid 2cl there instead of passing|pg||
nt|vugraph9: interesting indeed|pg||
nt|vugraph9: more notes|pg||
nt|mcphee: but not clear that E needs to be that good|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: but 3NT dificult to make|pg||
nt|vugraph9: wiechsel wrote long note,   now gave to W |pg||
nt|mrdct: maybe he thought double was takeout of @S and not necessarily quite as strong as what east is holding|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mcphee: i sure he did|pg||
nt|zlatanov: passing the opening (in the CR) was not a success|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|zlatanov: EW did very well there|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|mcphee: passing 1N dbled was an option for sure|pg||
nt|mrdct: it's hard to think of any sensible path to 3NT for EW after it started 1@S:1NT|pg||
nt|mrdct: they might have defended 2@Hx|pg||
nt|zlatanov: well N has an easy 2H...and even then 3N is hard to bid|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: anyway i tk W sd have passed 1NTX|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|bessi2: if Gielruski had found a pass over 1nx north would have run to 2h and then skrz would have had a very reasonable 3n bid in my opinion|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: hard to bid and to win with @S lead|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|zlatanov: yes I have no idea what 2C was|pg||
nt|mrdct: my friend gyorgy szalay suggests: "west passes dbl, 2@H-2N-3N". but we'll never know|pg||
nt|vugraph9: guessn I have to move chair and pc |pg||
nt|mcphee: needs to define the @D suit in 3N|pg||
nt|vugraph9: sorry  all|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SAQJ84H87DQ63CKT3,S6532H65DA82CA642,ST9HQJT932DT9C985,SK7HAK4DKJ754CQJ7|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|othered1: UCCCLE has now won imps on 5 consecutive boards, but has not dented the BCOB lead.  |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: it hard to come back...losing double digits and only winning single's|pg||
nt|petergill: 1@D = 4+ @D, 10-16 unbalanced |pg||
nt|petergill: 3@D weak |pg||
mb|2C|nt|petergill: Bold 3@H by Crouch. |pg||
nt|benjy: would you all bid on the west cards?|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: there are 6 to take for N/S....|pg||
nt|mmmakela: that's heroic|pg||
mb|3N|nt|galadriel: Looks like a flat board|pg||
nt|mmmakela: never|pg||
nt|chick: pretty frisky with 12 points and a ragged spade suit|pg||
nt|boltonian2: W may pass, N will be very happy|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: albeit in different contracts|pg||
nt|atlantajon: unless they try to clear spade suit|pg||
pc|sA|nt|benjy: i think i might pass as my @Ds look like they might be in the wrong place, although 1@D is not natural i think it is very close|pg||
pc|s2|nt|galadriel: maybe not...|pg||
nt|petergill: West is a passed hand, and his partner has 2 diamonds at most, so 3@H cannot really backfire too much, I think. |pg||
nt|petergill: unless partner takes it as fit-showing!!!|pg||
pc|s9|nt|mmmakela: excactly|pg||
nt|benjy: even if he does, surely 4@H is the call|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|atlantajon: this will tell|pg||
nt|boltonian2: maybe not for too long, looks to be 1 off?|pg||
nt|granguru: S is glad to see the @H10 I expect|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 2@Hs, 1@S, @S ruff, @d|pg||
nt|boltonian2: hmm, maybe not|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|atlantajon: score it up|pg||
nt|benjy: Pd can always correct|pg||
nt|petergill: 3@H alerted by West as fit-showing, but not thought to be by West, I think. |pg||
nt|benjy: One for the system agreements team|pg||
nt|vugraph8: He thought it was fit showing|pg||
nt|petergill: @SA?????|pg||
nt|petergill: no, not at all. |pg||
pc|s3|nt|petergill: West feeling not too good, as his diamonds turn to dust.  |pg||
nt|petergill: Reluctant to open up the club suit in case declarer has @CAQ, North switches to his heart. |pg||
nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins is one of England's greatest players. |pg||
nt|benjy: this will surely be another big swing to the Irish|pg||
nt|mmmakela: after @SA he'll swith to clubs|pg||
nt|petergill: England has fielded five pairs so far in the 2008 Camrose. Ireland have used three pairs. |pg||
nt|benjy: I am afraid i have to leave, enjoy the rest of the show everyone (COme on England!)|pg||
nt|petergill: Win @H9, spade to king, then what? That is what Glyn is thinking. But what else can he do?|pg||
nt|petergill: Bye Ben|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mmmakela: 2 now lavinthal|pg||
nt|chick: has to return @D for his ruff|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
nt|galadriel: At last...a double figure swing|pg||
nt|boltonian2: well, it is off, now|pg||
nt|chick: well, not if decl finesses the club :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: yes, not been Patersons match so far|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|galadriel: Should N switch to a top @H?|pg||
nt|galadriel: Maybe not so easy|pg||
nt|ybob: i open N hand 1@H in 3º with any system|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yes...so do I|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I want a heart lead|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
nt|petergill: This Ireland team have done lots of barnstorming finishes - the 2008 Yeh Bros Cup a month ago, the last European Teams Championship in Warsaw, will this be another big Irish ...|pg||
nt|petergill: finish?|pg||
nt|petergill: To ruff or not to ruff?|pg||
nt|diumraid: **** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ****  ENGLAND 179,  IRELAND   179,  WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 123, N-IRELAND 100 **** INDIV MATCHES *****  CBAI 18  12 ENG  *****  N-IRL  15 15  ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: IRE  *****  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|petergill: North is worried that declarer surely has @CAQ for the jump to 4@S. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: @H K was a bad play, shd see the situation|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|dK|nt|granguru: @S8 asked for a @D|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|petergill: Hence this defence. |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|boltonian2: it was probably off anyhow|pg||
nt|granguru: which was obvious|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|petergill: the time has come for a club - now. |pg||
pc|h6|nt|petergill: @CA to block the clubs might have been better. |pg||
nt|petergill: South has to infer that North's last spade is the jack, not a small one |pg||
pc|h9|nt|petergill: otherwise the play would have gone differently |pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2S7HA532DAQJ8CK932,SAK54HQT97D43CAT6,SQJ82HJ64DK62CQ84,ST963HK8DT975CJ75|sv|o|nt|zlatanov: I guess X was TO, so W couldn't really pass|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|mcphee: well something went wrong as E never got thos show his values |pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: EW stealing the auction here|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|mrdct: and wil probably buy this in 2@S|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 2@S only has 7 tricsk i think|pg||
nt|zlatanov: yes 7 was quite interesting, I am sure EW will discuss it for a while:)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|mrdct: NS probably have 7 or 8 tricks in NT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|bessi2: perhaps skrz owed his pd another bid on that previous board.. 2d wouldn't have been that much of an overbid|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|mcphee: I think so, |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mcphee: his hand was in an awkward range|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter in shock it held|pg||
nt|zlatanov: it is not clear, may be it would be more like 18+|pg||
nt|mcphee: but when Peter passed I think he has to do a little somethng|pg||
nt|zlatanov: may be E should have passed 1N...|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|zlatanov: EW should know the situation because they don't use a nat 1N overcall...|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
nt|mcphee: brb|pg||
nt|mrdct: this is shaping up to be another small pick-up for rubin|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2S7HA532DAQJ8CK932,SAK54HQT97D43CAT6,SQJ82HJ64DK62CQ84,ST963HK8DT975CJ75|sv|o|nt|petergill: hence South finds the best play of another club, not a heart. |pg||
nt|boltonian2: even after the @C switch|pg||
nt|boltonian2: hmm, another interesting one|pg||
nt|granguru: EW makes 3@D|pg||
nt|boltonian2: NS dont seem to be able to make much of anything|pg||
mb|1C|nt|petergill: when Irish eyes are smiling ... beware the English |pg||
nt|boltonian2: although maybe they can make 3@S if they read the position right|pg||
nt|boltonian2: was never likely to be played at the 3 level this hand though|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|mmmakela: 4 @S now?|pg||
nt|granguru: 3N can be made if the defense dont cash @Cs immediately |pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: lame|pg||
mb|1S|nt|petergill: 4@S does not make. |pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: Good stop by the English. |pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|atlantajon: good stop|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|petergill: Only three apparent losers, but only 8 or 9 tricks in reality. |pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|h2|pg||
nt|mmmakela: at least 3 and look at W's opening,dead minimum|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|boltonian2: @S switch is very obvious here unfortuntaely|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|petergill: At Trick 2, South's @C2 was suit preference for diamonds - neat, eh?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h9|nt|mmmakela: in the long run 4 @S THE bid|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|mc|7|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SA83H532DA62CQ865,S9HQJT76DKQ98CAJ9,SKQJT6HK9DT4CK743,S7542HA84DJ753CT2|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: yes and Rubin have wiped out most of the Polish lead that opened in the last quarter|pg||
nt|mrdct: EW a chance to make 4@H here|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|mrdct: tough to bid it though|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: hard to blame E|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
nt|mrdct: 3@S looks like it's going to fail so long as EW stay away from @C|pg||
nt|mrdct: abd don't lead the @HA :)|pg||
nt|zlatanov: :)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg||
nt|zlatanov: this may change the lead|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|mrdct: looks like rubin has done as well as they possibly can in this room on this board|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|mrdct: 6 imps to rubin|pg||
nt|bessi2: this will be 6 imps for rubin giving them the lead in the match|pg||
pc|cA|nt|nuno_paz: now N sd discard a @D on @H|pg||
nt|vugraph9: here we go again!   so sorry |pg||
nt|zlatanov: Jansma chose to X rather than overcall 3@H...|pg||
pc|c7|nt|zlatanov: on a board where 4@H makes this was a success:)|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: actually i wd prefer to X|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|zlatanov: because parter did not lead @H|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SA83H532DA62CQ865,S9HQJT76DKQ98CAJ9,SKQJT6HK9DT4CK743,S7542HA84DJ753CT2|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: nothing but pain here for N/S|pg||
nt|petergill: Discipline by the English. No rushes of blood even after the disaster on Bd 7|pg||
nt|mmmakela: N has normally dbl stop in hearts|pg||
mb|2S|mb|d|nt|atlantajon: or E/w for that matter|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 20-22|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: looks like lose a total of 300 for UCCLE....-100 other table and -200 here...does anyone see an 8th trick?|pg||
nt|petergill: East's values look too "soft" to try for slam. |pg||
nt|petergill: no aces, no tens, 4333, junk. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: most wd still look if 6@H might be on|pg||
nt|chick: 3N will be very lucky for N, E will likely lead a spade and then W with all the entries can't return them|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: maybe Rees figured that out :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: yes this looks lucky on many levels, hearts breaking aswell|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|nt|galadriel: No..it looks hopeless|pg||
nt|galadriel: With both hands balanced 24 hcp not enough for game|pg||
nt|chick: needs care here, the Q@C is his only entry to the hearts if W holds up|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|petergill: 10 = either J10xx(x) or HJ10x(x)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|galadriel: I can understand them bidding it though|pg||
nt|othered1: There are many different defenses to multi-type openings.  EW's here wasn't effective.  Others might have gotten EW a plus (on defense)|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 2 @D show 6 @S or @S and a minor never @H|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I agree.....the system I use...would call for a pass with the west hand...then when it gets back to me @@ 2@s...I think I have a clear pass|pg||
nt|atlantajon: ok...thanks|pg||
pc|hK|nt|granguru: @H|pg||
nt|granguru: oopps|pg||
nt|chick: thanks John @H|pg||
nt|granguru: was private intended|pg||
nt|granguru: now everyone knows|pg||
nt|chick: hehe|pg||
pc|hA|nt|petergill: Looks like 12 tricks. |pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|chick: I appreciate the helpful suggestion :)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|othered1: Mine would double 2@D on west's hand.  but it might not be the best against this particular multi's possibilities, all of which involve @S type hands.|pg||
nt|atlantajon: agreed..|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
nt|granguru: yw|pg||
nt|chick: tough choice for rees ... if he ducks in hopes his pard has another spade, he won't get his spade tricks|pg||
nt|granguru: If he takes ..What should he continue?|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|atlantajon: this might get deeper if west doesn't cash out|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h4|nt|petergill: England are actually ahead, leading Ireland by 19 VPs coming into this match, and by 7 VPs right now, until Bd 7 is scored when it will be closer. |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 182,  IRELAND 180, WALES  170, SCOTLAND 136, CBAI 120, N-IRELAND  99 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 15  15 ENG  *****  N-IRL  14 16  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  17  13  SCOT  *****|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|sT|pc|d7|nt|petergill: Will be 11 tricks. |pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|sK|mc|7|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SQTHT4D97543CAKJ7,SK86HAJ2DAJT6CQT9,S92HQ983DK8C86543,SAJ7543HK765DQ2C2|sv|b|nt|mrdct: 4@S for EW here|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter likes to make comments at the table |pg||
nt|vugraph9: Gierulski is not happy |pg||
nt|nuno_paz: flat board i guess..always making and biding 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraph9: director coming to room |pg||
nt|mrdct: what is he unhappy about?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: the last three boards|pg||
nt|zlatanov: wouldn't you?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter not happy about "how"  Gierulski is treating him |pg||
nt|vugraph9: the discussion is about whether Peter is pulling cards out and putting back,  then playing |pg||
nt|mcphee: Gierulski maight have complimented him and he didn't understand?:)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: sorry,  Weichsel=Peter|pg||
nt|mrdct: west and north are on different sides of the screen|pg||
nt|mcphee: so W is not pleased|pg||
nt|zlatanov: W knows they got fixed, and hard to blame partner for leading his suit:)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: more importantly  Weichsel is not pleased with all the polish etc |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|mcphee: he has a partner that can give explanations|pg||
nt|mrdct: it's always good sport to have a bit of agro at the table in major finals|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mrdct: agro is australian for "aggrevasion"|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mcphee: you want me to call the cops onyou Dave?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: the only way to have a problem here seems to fail to open as E...|pg||
nt|vugraph9: personally my guess they are all tired|pg||
mb|p|nt|nuno_paz: well..something went wrong....|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: but sometimes players find ways|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: if 2@C is GF why not biding 2@S after 2@H??|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: does it look GF?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: was this really the bidding?lol|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|nt|mcphee: Shirl was just tricking ya:)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I knew it :)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: this is funny pc,   Jan had it the other night,   you think you entered the bidding suddenly you did not |pg||
nt|mrdct: looks like the bagged an unexpected overtrick in the closed room on this "flat 4@S" hand|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Peter out of the room,  for courtesy call |pg||
nt|mcphee: so you mean the machine was trickin us?|pg||
nt|zlatanov: note how many bids were made by EW in the CR...|pg||
nt|mrdct: sry - 11 tricks normal as @Ds set up|pg||
nt|vugraph9: all cards still up on the table,  Weishsel not here|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: i was told that 2@C is not GF...and 2@S after 2@H cd be passed...he probably bided 2@C to figure out if 3NT was better than 4@S|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|zlatanov: 2@C was alerted because it can be 2+, I think|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg||
mc|11|nt|zlatanov: some play it possible to stop in 2@S some don't|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SQTHT4D97543CAKJ7,SK86HAJ2DAJT6CQT9,S92HQ983DK8C86543,SAJ7543HK765DQ2C2|sv|b|nt|petergill: Sorry, I missed that - he did make 12 tricks in the ending, well done  |pg||
nt|mmmakela: cig br brb|pg||
nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 171, IRELAND 160, WALES 149, SCOTLAND 125, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 83 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  11   19  IRL **** SCO 18  12 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 11  19 WAL***|pg||
nt|petergill: Ordinary results by the Irish EW on Bds 4 and 5 put England ahead by 11 VPs. But Ireland have the easier draw in the last 32 board match, later today after this match ends. |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|galadriel: Should be a straightforward 3NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|6-4|mb|p|nt|petergill: On Bd 9, 6@S or 6NT is somewhere around 50% chance, I guess. So the Irish EW, who will have a strong club style of auction, might bid it. |pg||
nt|petergill: 2@C perhasps a transfer to diamonds - I'|pg||
nt|petergill: m guessing. |pg||
nt|chick: diumraid has been popping around from room to room keeping us all up to date on the scores for this whole event.  The next time he pops in, we should all give him a big thank you!|pg||
nt|vugraph14: its a long walk between these rooms|pg||
mb|3H|nt|mmmakela: so why not 3 @D?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|an|6-4-2-1|mb|p|nt|chick: Hi Brid!  You're sure doing a great job as operator, keeping up with all of this :)|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|petergill: Even if NS don't lead clubs, I think North's 65 of spades will stop this contract from making. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: -1|pg||
mb|4D|an|1of 4 KC !s|nt|petergill: What would you lead? A trump? A club? |pg||
nt|boltonian2: well this will enable a @C discard|pg||
mb|p|nt|boltonian2: although, @C return might make things awkward|pg||
mb|4S|nt|galadriel: W leads the major without the A|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|petergill: Might be -2, the cards lie badly for declarer. |pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|galadriel: creating a 9th trick immediately|pg||
nt|petergill: 1@S - 1NT (5-11) - 2@C was 4+ cards in either minor|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ok|pg||
pc|dK|nt|petergill: Then 2@D by East showed 4 or 5 diamonds - hence the leap to 4@D. |pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|petergill: Sorry aboutt he delay, I had to wade through 12 pages of Convention Card to find that. |pg||
pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
nt|atlantajon: my choice...but 3 tricks later than I would have|pg||
nt|petergill: 5@D was mildly aggressive, but had the lie of the cards been friendly, we would be complimenting EW on bidding well to the making game.  |pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|granguru: posponing @S finesse till the end|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chick: trying to get a count, I suppose|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|petergill: Liggins went for the spade finesse in a desperate attempt to make 5@D, once trumps did not split. |pg||
nt|vugraph14: Is a big board giving it a lot of thought|pg||
nt|granguru: @S10 gives declarer a 2 way finesse. Without it this hand would have been over long ago|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1ST42HQ86DQ962CQJ2,SKQ9875HJDAJ73C93,S3HAK973DK5CKT654,SAJ6HT542DT84CA87|sv|o|mb|p|nt|mrdct: NS have 4@h here - but EW likely to compete to 4@s i think|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2S!|nt|mrdct: actually 4@H might be a bit of a stretch - both in the bidding and the play|pg||
mb|d|nt|nuno_paz: but they wont bid it...itk|pg||
nt|zlatanov: we'll likely be in 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraph9: dbl asked about  |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: to make 4@H you need to read the restricted choice position in trumps correctly|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: 4@S can make if guess @D |pg||
nt|vugraph9: describes as penalty |pg||
mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@S looks makable|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mrdct: knowing north's shape will be helpful for declarer|pg||
nt|zlatanov: they didn't even wait for the opps to "transfer" with 4@H...|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: @D 10 is the winning kee|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: have to guess...anyway|pg||
nt|vugraph9: no card has been turned over yet|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Weichel thinking |pg||
nt|vugraph9: *Weichel |pg||
nt|vugraph9: 3rd time charm, Weichsel|pg||
nt|mrdct: weichsel thinking and annoying gierulski at the same time|pg||
nt|mrdct: multi-tasking|pg||
nt|mcphee: you have already failed the spelling test Shirl|pg||
nt|vugraph9: maybe, |pg||
nt|mrdct: west just wants to get on with drawing trumps, learn a bit more about the layout and then get @d right|pg||
nt|vugraph9: progress,  cards turned over now|pg||
nt|bessi2: weicsel does have a problem here as he knows nothing of the heart situation|pg||
nt|vugraph9: hello to another person without the "spell checker"|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I think W should get it right, on the bidding|pg||
nt|zlatanov: if N ever lets him play:)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: weichsel is Peter,  but had too many complaints when using his first name |pg||
nt|mcphee: yeah but Peter is easier to spell|pg||
nt|vugraph9: all still in trances here,  Peter sitting with arm holding head up,  clearly thinking|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|bessi2: don't weichsel-lesniewski play upside down signals ?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg||
nt|vugraph9: back in the tank |pg||
nt|mrdct: south might have done better to cover the @D10|pg||
nt|bessi2: if so weichsel had a difficult choice to make. could have been 6 from 86|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mcphee: surprised he played @D this way, might well have led toward the 10|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c5|nt|mcphee: 11 and Poland crawling back:)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d8|nt|bessi2: and as a spec suggested  if they play udca.. lesniewski should have played the heart 8 on the 1st trick|pg||
mc|11|nt|vugraph9: tension again in the room |pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1ST42HQ86DQ962CQJ2,SKQ9875HJDAJ73C93,S3HAK973DK5CKT654,SAJ6HT542DT84CA87|sv|o|nt|boltonian2: well played for a possible big loss|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|boltonian2: 4@H looks good|pg||
nt|boltonian2: may end in 3NT by E tho|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|petergill: He needed four spade tricks, so finessing the spade was the best play. |pg||
nt|petergill: 1Nt 14-16|pg||
mb|4S|nt|petergill: 2@C Stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Paterson-Short play a multi 2D that only shows a weak major, no strong option |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|mmmakela: thought S would pass|pg||
nt|petergill: Passing 2@D - cute!|pg||
pc|h2|nt|galadriel: 1NT shows 5c @D|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|mmmakela: what else if u choose to bid 2 @C|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|petergill: I would have tried 2@H over 2@D, expecting partner to convert to 2@S if 3-2 in the majors. |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|petergill: However, with the singleton queen, I think your idea of passing 1NT is probably best. |pg||
pc|cT|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 124, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 84 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  9   21  IRL **** SCO 17  13 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 12  18 WAL***|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 182,  IRELAND 180, WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 120, N-IRELAND  99 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 15  15 ENG  *****  N-IRL  14 16  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
nt|granguru: tks diumraid for all your effort|pg||
nt|boltonian2: S had little choice but to hope partner had the A@S, or Q at least, without it he knew the @Cs were running|pg||
nt|boltonian2: thank you|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|petergill: The anticipated 14 imps on Bd 7 reduce England's lead to about 5 VP's overall, with about 40 boards to go in this exciting Camrose. |pg||
nt|petergill: Make that 7 VP's|pg||
nt|petergill: England are stil,the favourites to win the event. The odds are about England 1.80, Ireland 2.18, I am told. |pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d4|nt|petergill: I cannot see any successful defence to beat 2@D|pg||
nt|chick: Thanks again diumraid!!  @H@H|pg||
pc|d6|nt|galadriel: So I guess it is safe to use 2@C as you wont be playing in a 3-2 fit|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SATHKJT8632DT4CJ4,SQJ32HQ7DK973C765,S754H9DAQJ62CKQT9,SK986HA54D85CA832|sv|n|nt|mrdct: beautiful|pg||
nt|vugraph9: this is te 3rd qtr |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|mrdct: 4@h looks like a solid result for poland in the closed room|pg||
nt|mcphee: well well scoring up 4@H is a nice touch|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mrdct: looks like you need to get @H right|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|bessi2: on a sped lead.. declarer must play 3times diamonds forcing east to ruff and then guess the hearts|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mrdct: east in the closed room flew with @HA when the 9 was lead off dummy in the closed room|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mcphee: unexpected play|pg||
nt|mrdct: new leader|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|zlatanov: looks even more solid now|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|zlatanov: Martens jumped to 4@H again:)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|mrdct: you have to bid these these vulnerable games - whether they are cold or not|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|serhat: dia finese and H play small K and other dia and A dia he rufs small over ruff and H.. 1 h 1 sp 1C:)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|mc|9|nt|vugraph9: break here,  brb courtesy for all of us|pg||
nt|mcphee: oh goody|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I am not surprised they bid 4, but wasn't 1D rather wide range in the CR, they don't play strong club vul|pg||
nt|zlatanov: he could be missing 6|pg||
nt|mcphee: they play wild pre-empts |pg||
nt|mcphee: brb|pg||
nt|bessi2: in 4h declarer must also be careful not to overruff but pitch a spade when east ruffs the top diamond because then east can underlead the spade to get the 4th diamond and ruff it ...|pg||
nt|bessi2: with the ace|pg||
nt|vugraph9: not changing hands until all back in room |pg||
nt|mrdct: 4 more boards for this segment and then the last 16 boards scheduled to start in about 45 minutes from now i believe|pg||
nt|vugraph9: ok ready to go again |pg||
pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SATHKJT8632DT4CJ4,SQJ32HQ7DK973C765,S754H9DAQJ62CKQT9,SK986HA54D85CA832|sv|n|nt|petergill: so the Irish survived that little excursion into the 4-3 fit. |pg||
nt|petergill: Tommy Garvey and John Carroll have been in top form in this set, so far. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yes, a difficult choice for Amsel|pg||
nt|galadriel: I sympathise with 1NT|pg||
nt|galadriel: You don't really want to pass out 1@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: A bold preempt by Peter Crouch. |pg||
nt|chick: Kurbalija-Rees 2D shows either 6 diamonds or 5-5 minors|pg||
mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|atlantajon: nice landing place|pg||
nt|ybob: win 2@H , lost 1NT|pg||
nt|petergill: a good idea as it happens, to push around an opponent who has a 19 count. |pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dT|nt|petergill: North will surely bid 3@S. |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h4|nt|petergill: 3@S is doomed. Without the preemptive 3@D bid, NS would surely have gone plus on the board. |pg||
pc|h6|nt|petergill: A spade to the six is surely not going to happen, in real life?|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|petergill: 1@D showed 5+! D or 4441, making the 3@D preempt easy to find, at the suitable vulnerability. |pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|galadriel: The room has filled with specs now and I'm getting lots of interesting comments...sorry if I can't reply to them all :-)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
nt|boltonian2: Rees can put short on the guess imediately here, by playing the @C, avoids any revealing discards |pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|boltonian2: not that they will discard anything revealing of course|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h8|mc|10|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SKQT5H632DJ86CA54,SAHK8DKT54CKJT976,SJ984HAJ5DQ732C32,S7632HQT974DA9CQ8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|mrdct: 3NT is pretty good here if you can dodge the @S lead|pg||
nt|zlatanov: we can't complain the match is one-sided...|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|mrdct: trump lead probably best vs a @c contract but the @h layout is friendly|pg||
nt|zlatanov: interesting that W didn't open 2@C|pg||
nt|mrdct: 4@h a chance here on that basis?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: I guess they play it weaker in third|pg||
pc|sK|nt|vugraph9: it was 15 plus|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|hK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|h9|nt|mrdct: spotted a path to 9 tricks here with ruffs in both hands|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|mrdct: and now gets north caught in a trump coup of sorts|pg||
nt|mcphee: what happend to cashing the @S|pg||
nt|mrdct: yes that would've saved a trick|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SKQT5H632DJ86CA54,SAHK8DKT54CKJT976,SJ984HAJ5DQ732C32,S7632HQT974DA9CQ8|sv|b|nt|atlantajon: BCOB is going to Lap UCCLE if they are not careful|pg||
nt|petergill: Hi --- |pg||
nt|petergill: A little triumph for the English, their first one for a while. |pg||
nt|boltonian2: problem with pausing and not playing a club is that Short may have expected a @C switch straight away from a person that had the A@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|galadriel: This isn't the kind of board UCCLE are looking for|pg||
nt|mmmakela: w 3-3 majs maybe S shd just give up|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: on previous 3 @D |pg||
nt|petergill: Good thinking Markku, but highly risky - you might miss a vul game. |pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: I think playing @S10 from dummy would be a better play. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: despite the points playing strength wasn't good|pg||
nt|petergill: well, unless East plays the bare jack on it!|pg||
nt|petergill: Yes, and Qx in their suit was a good holding for defending. |pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: The Camrose Trophy is competed for annually among the countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland under the auspices of the British Bridge League. The 1939 series ...|pg||
nt|chick: was not completed due to war. The Camrose re-started in 1946, so the series ending in March 2008 was the sixtiy-fifth. This makes the Camrose the most-played international bridge ...|pg||
nt|chick: series in the world.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|galadriel: Oh I thought they might get to @D |pg||
nt|atlantajon: I also|pg||
pc|s7|nt|galadriel: Seems no-one can bid @D naturally|pg||
nt|atlantajon: lol|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|petergill: Perhaps John Carroll played a bit fast there. He wanted to be in dummy to take the club finesse. |pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|d4|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 122, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 86 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  9   21  IRL **** SCO 15  15 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI  9  21 WAL***|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|atlantajon: this time if they try to clear @h then its a maker|pg||
nt|petergill: If one thinks that @C7 is high, denying the king, then playing @CJ or @CQ from hand is better.  |pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|petergill: I am being very picky - I can see all 52 cards and he can't, and he expected the opening bidder to have @CK. |pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|cQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s2|nt|galadriel: We lost @C already now @Ds are on the way out|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|petergill: -200, it seems|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 100|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SJ92HA53D76532CT7,SAK6HQ984DAJ84CQ4,S754HKJT62DTC9865,SQT83H7DKQ9CAKJ32|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 6@c is pretty good contract here|pg||
mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|mrdct: hard to bid a slam with no 8 card fit though|pg||
nt|mrdct: 6@d is OK also|pg||
nt|mrdct: until you look at the bad @D break!|pg||
nt|zlatanov: here 2@C some sort of check back, I guess|pg||
nt|mcphee: i knew you were going to notice that Dave:)|pg||
mb|4N!|nt|mrdct: they are such little ones in south's hand they are eay to overlook|pg||
nt|zlatanov: apparently 7N is ok too, see CR result:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: you did not mention 6@S|pg||
nt|mrdct: i think 7NT by east will definately fail|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|zlatanov: they right-sided it|pg||
pc|h6|nt|mrdct: great lead|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|c2|pg||
nt|zlatanov: interesting hand for a bidding contest|pg||
nt|vugraph9: yes we are thinking again |pg||
nt|mcphee: to cash or not to cash|pg||
nt|dburn: again? or still?|pg||
nt|dinos1: wonder why E didnt answer 3@d over check-back 2@c|pg||
nt|tez: artificial systems have some disadvantages..i think they must play slam when oppenents don't overcall..|pg||
nt|zlatanov: yes, for some reason the players can't see the big flashing NEXT sign...|pg||
nt|tez: it was copy paste:)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: much "letter writing    between N AND e |pg||
nt|zlatanov: any idea what 3@C was? 4=S5+C, 15-18, may be...|pg||
nt|mcphee: could they be exchanging xmas card details?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|mrdct: if south has got an entry, that plus the @HK will set the contract so perhaps he might as well cash the @HK|pg||
nt|dburn: well, there are about ten letters between N and E|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SJ92HA53D76532CT7,SAK6HQ984DAJ84CQ4,S754HKJT62DTC9865,SQT83H7DKQ9CAKJ32|sv|o|nt|petergill: @S10 at Trick 1 and he would have gone -1, -100, I think. So no big deal. |pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@S = 5+ spades, weak|pg||
mb|3N|nt|petergill: 4@S = perhaps I am not so weak after all. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: doesn't look very weak to mee|pg||
nt|mmmakela: yet another bal to making game|pg||
nt|petergill: The Irish liking for bidding has helped EW reach two 4@S games now.  |pg||
nt|petergill: North thinking of saving!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 5@D costs 300. |pg||
pc|s5|nt|petergill: Now he will safety play the spades, ace and another , for 420. |pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mmmakela: almost criminal weak 2 imo|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d5|nt|chick: ugh, short found a great switch and paterson didn't follow through|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|h8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d7|nt|atlantajon: Looks like this is the last board for this session in the open room....thanks all|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|atlantajon: Thanks Roberto, Anne, Ed and Steve  :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thanks to everyone, especially specs :-)|pg||
nt|ybob: thx all :) bye|pg||
nt|galadriel: Bye for now|pg||
nt|atlantajon: any red card will get N/S another trick|pg||
nt|atlantajon: thanks Anne|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
mc|13|nt|atlantajon: boo....|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1SKQT973HADA7CQ742,SH643DT9832CAJT65,SAJ8654HJT8D64CK8,S2HKQ9752DKQJ5C93|sv|n|nt|mrdct: penultimate board of the session|pg||
nt|mrdct: big @s fit|pg||
nt|mcphee: big @D fit also|pg||
nt|mrdct: EW have a possible save in 6@D or 6@h|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2N|mb|3S|nt|tez: brb|pg||
nt|mcphee: wow just 3@S|pg||
mb|5D|nt|vugraph9: AND  no I did not misss a pass|pg||
nt|bessi2: 3s looks like somewhat of an underbid.. perhaps he was intending to walk the hand|pg||
nt|zlatanov: is this 3@S nonforcing?|pg||
nt|mcphee: what kinda dog is he walking|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he does have a lot of losers|pg||
nt|mrdct: the hand plays a trick better in @h than @d for EW as it happens|pg||
nt|mcphee: 1 for a st bernard, 1 Jack russel, and 2 for a lab|pg||
nt|dburn: and he does have @cK on defense|pg||
nt|mrdct: that's double dummy of course - no guarantee that delcarer will get @h right in 6@H|pg||
nt|vugraph9: S in tank,  has cleaned glasses,  stared at bidding tray etc |pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|nt|mcphee: wow|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 6@d down 3|pg||
nt|mrdct: 5-level always has an element of guesswork|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: perhaps a tad nervous about seeing 6@S|pg||
nt|zlatanov: I mean normally 3@S is not even invitational, N was may be planning to bid 4@S later...|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mrdct: claim|pg||
nt|mcphee: anyone save if they see 6@S?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mrdct: it would be very tempting bob|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|mcphee: sure would be|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SKQT973HADA7CQ742,SH643DT9832CAJT65,SAJ8654HJT8D64CK8,S2HKQ9752DKQJ5C93|sv|n|nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg||
nt|petergill: The 20 imps to Ireland on Bds 9 and 10 makes the overall scores very close now.  |pg||
nt|vugraph14: Penultimate board here now |pg||
nt|chick: Thanks for a great job, Thomas @H|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk7: 15 and 16 in this room first; then comparisons from the closed room when we roll over to board 1|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Hello Anne, Ed and Dirk|pg||
nt|didev: hi|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Hello all|pg||
nt|Walddk7: and welcome to Jonathan Slaney from USA|pg||
mb|2N|mb|4S|mb|5D|nt|Walddk7: 2@C weak with both majors we assume|pg||
nt|boltonian2: thanks|pg||
mb|5S|nt|didev: agressive youngsters|pg||
nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 183,  IRELAND 180, WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 119, N-IRELAND  99 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 14  16 ENG  *****  N-IRL  14 16  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk7: Maybe not since Cornelis went for hearts|pg||
nt|othered1: Wonder why the jump in the shorter suit?|pg||
nt|granguru: NS could have made 2@H|pg||
nt|boltonian2: i think S should bid 2@H|pg||
nt|vugraph14: If could not open it is it not dangerous to bid vul v non now?|pg||
nt|boltonian2: although, I would also open that hand|pg||
nt|chick: I dunno, broken suit vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: 4 Hearts seems a lot|pg||
nt|petergill: England led by 19 VPs before this match, and are now losing 6-24 or 5-25. Bookies would say: Ireland 1.75, England 2.25, Wales 20.00 to win the Camrose now. |pg||
pc|dT|nt|didev: prob conventional|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   IRELAND 166, ENGLAND 165, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 123, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 85 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  5   25  IRL **** SCO 16  14 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI  9  21 WAL***|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|sK|mc|11|nt|galadriel: Good afternoon all :-)|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Hello Anne|pg||
nt|didev: hi Anne|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SK64HK8DA92CAKJ84,SJTHT943DQT864C73,S985HQ65DJ53CQ952,SAQ732HAJ72DK7CT6|sv|e|nt|nuno_paz: well if they see 6@S in this sort of auction...is not sure that they make...so i prefer not to save|pg||
nt|mrdct: it would be nice to get a hand like this at the end of the next set with marging still around 6 imps|pg||
nt|vugraph9: last bd. of this segment|pg||
nt|dburn: just looking at that 2NT overcall, found in both rooms, and thinking "I'd never have done that in a million years"|pg||
nt|mcphee: me either David|pg||
nt|zlatanov: you mean, nice for us|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a million years is a long period of time to chnage your ways|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|dburn: I'll work on it|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|mcphee: how do you like this dble?|pg||
nt|mcphee: i prefer 1NT o/c|pg||
nt|mrdct: he looks a bit too good to simply overcall|pg||
nt|dburn: and report back in AD 502,008|pg||
nt|mrdct: and they migth use 1NT as something artificial - dunno|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: i agree with X...worthed 19 HCP|pg||
nt|mcphee: ahhh global warming will have us all killed off bye then|pg||
nt|mrdct: i'll mark that in my diary|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|tez: 1 dont agree with 2nt|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: y, 2@s wd be better|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|dburn: well, if you would double, you are committed to 2NT|pg||
nt|mrdct: he's got 7 tricks at least|pg||
nt|dburn: you can't conceivably bid 2@s|pg||
nt|mcphee: 8 winners|pg||
pc|s5|nt|tez: 6-3-3-2 hands are strange..only if you have 6 support you can behave different..i mean for 15 no hand|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: for sure...after X 2nt is the bid...the winning bid:)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|nt|tez: 6322 lol:)|pg||
nt|mcphee: 2 imps in the bank and a very tight match|pg||
nt|mrdct: 8th in the @H suit for a 5imp gain to rubin|pg||
nt|dinos1: it's a bid for 2N=, not for 3N. Give N @sJ and @hJ|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes a new imps scale,,,,,,,duh|pg||
nt|mrdct: it couldn't be much closer going into the last segment.  do we have a confirmed time for the restart shirley?|pg||
nt|mrdct: thanks, btw, to our great operator in detroit - Shirley Ybarra|pg||
pc|d6|pc|cQ|nt|mrdct: and thanks to all of the other usually suspects:  ACBL, BBO, commentators and spectators|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c8|nt|tez: ty shirley good job:)|pg||
mc|8|nt|vugraph9: see nyou in about 15 min  |pg||
nt|mcphee: I will be back!|pg||
nt|gosia: we 16 more exciting boards left -|pg||
nt|nuno_paz: ty all|pg||
nt|tez: neck and neck..i said it|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Attention Room....|pg||
nt|tez: bye all for now|pg||
nt|vugraph9: .....I will close in about two minutes to reset for the fourth Q.  Will be set in about 5 Minutes|pg||
nt|tez: 15 minute |pg||
nt|serhat: race|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SK64HK8DA92CAKJ84,SJTHT943DQT864C73,S985HQ65DJ53CQ952,SAQ732HAJ72DK7CT6|sv|e|nt|atlantajon: Nice @s grand here|pg||
nt|boltonian2: good pass then|pg||
nt|boltonian2: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: EW will bid quite a lot of @H to make life more difficult|pg||
nt|chick: another hand with 12 tricks, right after the opps cash their 2 aces :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mmmakela: ok last 1 ty all and see u later in the evening|pg||
nt|boltonian2: good sack in 5@D, but EW will make 5@H|pg||
mb|1S|nt|galadriel: That's not very many...|pg||
mb|d|nt|othered1: actually not many @H at all.  Has mutli struck again?|pg||
nt|boltonian2: small diamond to the K, followed by a small @S|pg||
nt|vugraph14: would win a prize|pg||
mb|p|nt|didev: world convention|pg||
nt|didev: @d and @s -strong hand|pg||
nt|atlantajon: 4@h?|pg||
nt|othered1: now north needs to find a forcing bid.  Can he cue with only 3rd round control?|pg||
nt|didev: cornelis will be in the tank for a while|pg||
nt|galadriel: N would like to agree @S but force at the same time|pg||
nt|othered1: How about 5@S, 6H-7@S?|pg||
nt|galadriel: Sometimes bridge isn't that easy!|pg||
nt|petergill: that was 6 imps to England, possibly putting them 1 VP ahead of Ireland. |pg||
nt|boltonian2: certainly would|pg||
mb|2C|nt|atlantajon: would 5@h confirm spades and ask for 2nd round to bid 6@s or would it be exclusion?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 183,  IRELAND 182, WALES  167, SCOTLAND 139, CBAI 119, N-IRELAND  97 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 14  16 ENG  *****  N-IRL  12 18  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  14  16  SCOT  *****|pg||
nt|chick: I'd start holding my cards closer :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: That's why I like 5@S, no need for specific discussion and you can judge your way to 7 without risk of confusion.|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hope they can show voids over Blackwood|pg||
nt|didev: probably 4@d= @d and a major ; not clear yhat it was @s|pg||
nt|othered1: I like 5@S here, too, then 6@H, 7@S.  Honestly|pg||
nt|othered1: Is making a slam invitation in a suit to be found later really playable?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|petergill: 1NT artificial, 15+, forcing!!|pg||
nt|boltonian2: well, Rees doesnt need too much for 6@H|pg||
nt|granguru: you could get another prize putting the @SK|pg||
nt|boltonian2: think he will probably pass|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: A cute way to stop in 2@D!|pg||
nt|boltonian2: who is putting up these prizes?|pg||
nt|granguru: Bridge godess|pg||
nt|boltonian2: I would donate one, probably not a very good one, but hey...|pg||
nt|granguru: Are you thinking on something special?|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: would 5@S now ask for @H control?|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I would think it would Anne|pg||
nt|vugraph14: sorry loo break|pg||
pc|cT|nt|boltonian2: well, they're in dublin, pint of guinness seems appropriate...|pg||
nt|granguru: Like a honor sensor..|pg||
pc|cA|nt|galadriel: I think that was a real problem for N|pg||
pc|c3|nt|boltonian2: its all over, i'm safe|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|granguru: not enough liquor in Dublin?|pg||
pc|c7|nt|petergill: This is the last board at this table. Thanks to our operator, to the CBAI and other organisers in Dublin, to Markku and Ben. |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|vugraph14: see you all in 30 mins|pg||
nt|boltonian2: having been playing the last time it was in dublin, it is maybe debatable|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|petergill: Bds 12,13 and 14 are yet to be played at the other table. England play CBAI (Ireland's  2 team) and Ireland play N Ireland in the last 32 board match. |pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|mc|8|pg||
