vg|Gold Cup 2008,Final 5,I,1,32,Collins,71,De Botton,62|
rs|3DS=,3CE=,5HW=,6HEx-1,4SN+1,4SN+1,6HS-2,6HS-1,4NE+3,6HW=,4HE=,4DSx-2,4SE=,3DW=,3NE+1,3NW=,3NS=,3NS=,4SS+1,4SS+1,3SN=,PASS,3CE-1,5SN+1,3HE=,5CE-1,2NS-1,2HS=,3DE-4,3DW-3,1NW-2,2SN-2,4HE=,4HE=,4SE-2,4SE-2,3NW=,3NW=,3DW-1,1NW-1,3NE=,3NE+1,3NW+2,3NW-2,3HE-1,3DNx-2,4HW=,4HW+1,5CN=,4SW+1,3CS-2,4HN-1,4HN+1,5HNx-1,6HS=,6HS+1,6HW-2,6HW-2,3SS+1,2SS+2,2CW=,2CW-2,4SE-1,4SE-1|
pn|Stuart T,Jason H,Gerald T,Justin H,,,,|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SQ73HAJT83DA652C4,SAKJ986H7DQ8CAT82,ST52HQ6DKT73CQ753,S4HK9542DJ94CKJ96|sv|o|nt|caitlin: Peirao gained 40+ IMPs|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: here we go|pg||
nt|Walddk4: That helped|pg||
nt|xenya: can we predict 1N by S?|pg||
nt|davidstern: Cute hand only fit is 8 clubs e/w|pg||
nt|davidstern: Hi All|pg||
nt|daman: that's better|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: here we go|pg||
nt|hedyg: optimist!|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: Hiall|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Commentators are David Edwin and Vladimir Ivanov|pg||
nt|ady: hi all|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|ady: an easy 4@S here|pg||
nt|ady: hi|pg||
nt|xenya: but a good 5@H save|pg||
nt|sybarra: has a play for 6 @D here |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Can't go down since you can't misguess clubs|pg||
nt|sybarra: hae to close eyes and hold breath re clubs|pg||
nt|sybarra: *has   |pg||
nt|sybarra: right R |pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: something wrong,that's not this hand to play|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: sry|pg||
nt|werge: But you need good conventions to find a @D-contract|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: will close,sry again|pg||
nt|sybarra: np|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt meni vain yksi valttitikki ja hertta sekä risti|pg||
nt|wiki: se ois todnäk ollut maksuvapaa yritys, mutta 9 tikkiä näin helposti|pg||
nt|wiki: taival jatkuu samalla kokoonpanolla|pg||
nt|wiki: terve taas! uudet jaot kohta saadaa pelaajatkin|pg||
nt|wiki: kuten sanoin tuossa - molemmat parit pelannneet yhdessä yli 40 vuotta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tervetuloa seuraamaan karsinnann finaalin toiseksi viimeistä segmenttiä|pg||
nt|wiki: Sundstenilla aika hyvät|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 pataa onnistuu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Jäljellä on siis kaksi 8 jaon segmenttiä|pg||
nt|wiki: ylitikit arvossaan|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Huoltotauko on pidetty ja hihat kääritty|pg||
nt|bagman: Mieluummin 16 päällä kuin alla mutta mikään ei vielä ole ratkennut|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ero on ihan mahdollista saada kiinni vaikka vain 8 jako onkin jäljellä|pg||
nt|bagman: pikkupeleissä voi heilahtaa 7 ja yhdessä tp-swingissä loput|pg||
nt|wiki: onkohan NS:ll- vanha multi käytössä. siinä on marmick|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: hi David |pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Hi again Pedro|pg||
nt|kareno: Do we have a running score?|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikola saattaa olla erittäin vaarallinen tässä tilanteessa|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: hi Al Shirley|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Hi David|pg||
nt|xenya: hello David|pg||
nt|daman: looks like a losing @C partscore for EW|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ola Pedro|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Read above|pg||
nt|Walddk4: click on the link|pg||
nt|wiki: tai siis nyt 10|pg||
nt|wiki: Huomenta ja tervetuloa karsintafinaaliin - täällä puhutaan suomea - open room in english|pg||
nt|kaapo: Huomenta vaan|pg||
nt|werge: Finnish will  be the finish...|pg||
nt|wiki: en tiedä onko parasta enne päiväys mennyt umpeen|pg||
nt|wiki: terve taas! ei malttanut lähteä pois. uudet kortit ja osittain uudet miehet|pg||
nt|bagman: Hei taas. Ei varmaankaan tämä kombinaatio NS?|pg||
nt|wiki: NS luonnollista, mutta @C voi olla 2|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Uskalin olisi syytä jo aloittaa tiukka loppukiri|pg||
nt|wiki: mite se tarjotan on toinen juttu, mutta Sundsten kyllä osaa survoa tarvittaessa|pg||
nt|wiki: no ei ole onneksi |pg||
nt|maribelxx: tarkoitatko, että sekä omille että vieraille?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|kareno: Okay :)|pg||
nt|wiki: No ny ton saatu papparaiset oikeille paikoille - tervetuloa kaikille|pg||
mb|1S|nt|davidstern: I see commentators utnumber specs|pg||
nt|daman: good time for a support double|pg||
nt|thegarve: 2c a big underbid awaiting more action|pg||
nt|xenya: we might see some interesting things here|pg||
nt|ady: 3 down |pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Bom dia, hello everyone and welcome back to Porto for the Portuguese Open Championships. Semi-finals, last match of 16 boards now|pg||
nt|mmmakela: Open room has English commentary, in Finnish here in CR|pg||
nt|wiki: here we are commenting in finnish|pg||
nt|kaapo: Tervetuloa takaisin!|pg||
nt|wiki: NS vaihtui ja saame einari ristiä|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 vai 4?? vai 1|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali ja Sundsten jatkavat|pg||
nt|werge: Bonjour de Copenhague|pg||
nt|wiki: ei mahdoton, mutta ei ehkä|pg||
nt|vugraphzfx: Tapahtui pientä partnerien vaihtoa|pg||
nt|vugraphzfx: Kyllä täällä ihan tämä NS istuu|pg||
nt|bagman: ok|pg||
nt|wiki: patalähdöllä kannattais rankaista|pg||
nt|wiki: en oikein pidä 3 ruudusta - D ois ollut mun valintani|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikola osaa löytää tilanteita, joista voi tehdä ison swingin - johonkin suuntaan|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä ois saanut 3:lla padalla:)|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvisellä ei ole varmaankaan enää lisättävää, jos tämä passataan hänelle|pg||
mb|d|nt|wilkinsona: hi david|pg||
nt|frankaus: our national body has a training program and funding for BBO operators - thanks to hard work by nick fahrer |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Not sure who our operator is, but he will get it right now|pg||
nt|werge: It looks like 130 - unless South will find the @C-lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good evening everyone|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Shirley, Caitlin and all|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi AL|pg||
nt|santyclz: Now swings last round, let's see if we can do better this one.|pg||
nt|caitlin: you can see open room www.bbotv.com/vugraph some need flash 9 some don't|pg||
nt|kareno: I think north bid 3@s and east and south passed.|pg||
nt|mmmakela: Heips vaan kaikki|pg||
nt|wiki: EW pelannee einari ristiä (?) strong club ja NS luonnollista|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt tuli 10, koska ruutu oli 2-2; Paganuksen suunnitelma oli varma 9 tikkiä sen jälkeen, kun molemmat puolustajat tunnustivat valttiässälle|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
nt|wiki: heippa taas! uudet  seniorit paikalla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tervetuloa taas. Kyseessä on 3. kahdeksan jaon osio|pg||
nt|bagman: Veikkaan, että EW on Arle-Paganus|pg||
nt|wiki: parsa-aika ainakin on mennyt ohi - seuraava huhtikuun lopussa|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto päätynee pelaamaan kolmea herttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Juuso istuu myös BBO:ssa kibitserinä :)|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 NT ässäkysely? -mut kontrollit saa ristilläkim|pg||
mb|2D|nt|frankaus: g'day all|pg||
nt|daman: Is south obligated to bid on this auction?|pg||
nt|kareno: Cruzeiro is obviously older than the current lot of Juniors who would consider that north hand an opportunity for a hypermodern preempt :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://psbridge.gotdns.com/bbo/allvug/  - Hand Records (PDF)|pg||
nt|fpbridge: @H Criei nova página da Federação Portuguesa de Bridge. Ver em:  www.fpbridge.webs.com|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Commentators are Karen Allison, Vladimir Ivanov and Hans Werge|pg||
nt|kareno: Good morning from Las Vegas.  Thank you Roland :)  Vladimir, Hans, hello :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Miettikö Leikola? 5@C olisi ollut n. 800|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt ois aika selkeän näköinen peli kun patakin on tasan - muuten oiskin pieti|pg||
nt|wiki: mennee tasan kotiin ellei puolustus auta|pg||
nt|wiki: 2 pataa ois ollut  n.800|pg||
nt|bagman: Huolimatta ruutuistunnosta, pelinviejällä on tässä mahdollisuus ottaa melkoinen määrä tikkejä|pg||
mb|2S|nt|jrssd: Hi all, from San Diego|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Hi Frank... I may have got all these franc(k)s mixed up|pg||
nt|fpg: :)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: North played 1N OR opening an 11-14 NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: no|pg||
nt|daman: I agree|pg||
nt|thegarve: double 2D seems auto|pg||
nt|fpbridge: @H I made a new page of Portuguese Bridge Federation. Can be seen at:  www.fpbridge.webs.com|pg||
nt|xenya: something is wrong here?|pg||
nt|xenya: W could bid 2@S, i admit, but how could N pass?|pg||
nt|wiki: ei - vähän yllätys|pg||
nt|bagman: tarjoussarja jatkunee p-3@D-p-3@H ellei Stubb mainosta pataansa|pg||
nt|bagman: En pitäisi mahdottomana 11 tikkiäkään|pg||
mb|3D|nt|santyclz: *No|pg||
nt|fpg: 1st board 1 nt by n/s in the open room and 1nt here but by e-w|pg||
nt|xenya: oah of course i forget -- 1N i forcing...|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, not so good|pg||
nt|frankaus: fine action to a good spot on limited values|pg||
nt|fpbridge: hi all|pg||
nt|kareno: North actually passed 2@s?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Did East think 2@S was natural?|pg||
nt|bagman: Olisi varmaan kestänyt A-singelin S:llä|pg||
nt|wiki: Juuson normaalitempo:)|pg||
nt|wiki: molemmat parisuhteet kestäneet vuosikymmenet - yli 40 vuotta yhdessä:)|pg||
nt|bagman: Valttiin ei ole varaa koskea itse|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: Garozzo says not to double with void|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Very strange|pg||
nt|kareno: I have the sense that this auction didn't happen this way.|pg||
nt|bagman: Hieman on kyseenalainen Uskalin ratkaisu|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 sangilla olis ollut mahdollisuus, 4 @H tuskin on puolustettavissa kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT olisi voinut mennä kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Juuso Leikola|pg||
nt|wiki: kun pelikokemusta on yht 100 vuotta niin ei sen niin väliä|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: likely play in spades is a spade to the queen and duck on the way back |pg||
nt|davidstern: Losers seem to be 2-1-0-2 and a third spade potentialls as declarer has to deal with third club|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: me too really|pg||
nt|thegarve: big offensive hand|pg||
nt|daman: extreme caution by West    I would bid @Cs again|pg||
nt|kareno: Luis :)|pg||
nt|xenya: ah bidding opponents' suits...|pg||
nt|bagman: Hei kaikki|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: Hey Joe:)|pg||
nt|wiki: no jooo|pg||
nt|kaapo: Tervetula takasin Wiki ja Pekka|pg||
nt|wiki: kiitos kiitos|pg||
nt|kaapo: Ilkka Rennoa pyytelin muistelemaan Suomea muutaman sanan verran, mutta hän vain pyysi kertomaan terveisiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubb lähtee ristikuninkaalla ja jatkanee väriä|pg||
nt|wiki: pesosen tekis mieli tarjota|pg||
nt|bagman: Patalähtö on puolustuksen kannalta epäonninen|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: defense has too many opportunities here to take more than 4 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: this won't last long|pg||
nt|ady: maybe down 2    sorry   counted 3 diamond losers|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good evening to Liz McGowan|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Good evening everyone|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Liz|pg||
nt|ady: hi|pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day luis|pg||
nt|kareno: Not right yet, operator.|pg||
nt|bagman: Pesosen piti tarjota edellisellä kierroksella, jos aikoo osallistua ylipäätään|pg||
pc|s2|nt|santyclz: Hi Ellen, Shirley, Rob, all.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: with maybe a diamond finesse en route|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Huomenta Lea|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ei tuottane ongelmia tämä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Huomenta Roland et al|pg||
nt|wiki: Hei Lea! Suomalaiset alkavat ehkä heräillä - enemmän kommentaattoreita kuin suomalaisia|pg||
nt|wiki: hankala jako näin alkuun|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenin rajoitettu avaus teki Uskalille passaamisen helpoksi|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä ei oikein voi mennä kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: kai se sitten osaa tän pelata|pg||
nt|maribelxx: suora korotus täyspeliin varmaan kieltää sen ässän|pg||
nt|bagman: Kohta alkaa vuorovarkaudet; herttamaskinkin voi ottaa harjoituksen vuoksi|pg||
pc|s4|nt|frankaus: looks like -2|pg||
nt|bagman: Arvolistan perusteella joukkue Arle on ykkössijoitettu ja joukkue Uskali on viides (eli viimeinen)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tervehdys taas!|pg||
nt|wiki: kiitos Ilkalle- terveisiä takaisin sinne Luxemburgiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Puolustus voi pelata pataässän ja lisää pataa ja vieläkin tulee pieti|pg||
nt|bagman: ... ei voikaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Teoriassa pelissä on vain kaksi menevää mutta yhteydet ja valtin vinositsi estää kaikkien oton|pg||
nt|maribelxx: mutta tällä kertaa toinen täti oli riittävästi|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä ei oikein tiede auta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: negatiivinen vastaus voi siis sisältää yhden ässän tai kuninkaan|pg||
nt|wiki: niin muistelin|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|caitlin: hi Rob:)|pg||
nt|kareno: OPERATOR -- the auction is not right!|pg||
pc|sA|nt|wiki: en tiedä mitä heillä ois kahdennus kertonut eka rundilla|pg||
pc|s5|nt|davidstern: the defence is a little stuck now|pg||
nt|sybarra: E might play ace and @S |pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c looked natural|pg||
nt|pelu: I exp that est has mixed his @D and @C :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: endplayed already|pg||
nt|bagman: Kyseessä on 48 jaon semifinaali; voittaja pelaa huomenna 48 jaon pudotuspelin kolmen joukkueen myllyn voittajaa vastaan|pg||
nt|bagman: pitää ottaakin nyt ristit pois|pg||
nt|bagman: pelinviejä voi muuten kasvattaa hertan kupilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin siihenkään ei taida yhteydet riittää|pg||
nt|wiki: no A tuntuu aika normaalilta|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pelinviejän pitää jo arvailla oikein|pg||
nt|wiki: vaihtoehdot ovat vähäiset|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 kontrollia ois ollut kiva kaitsulle|pg||
pc|h2|nt|wiki: matti koiviston heikko avaus osui kohdalleen|pg||
nt|bagman: -2|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: further club best it seems|pg||
nt|hedyg: disc|pg||
nt|kareno: Depends the defense.  south can ruff this low and west should resist overruffing.|pg||
nt|wiki: no puolustus auttoi tikin verran|pg||
pc|s6|nt|wilkinsona: ruff|pg||
pc|sT|nt|hedyg: oh well, what do i know?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: No me ollaankin innokkaita :)|pg||
nt|wiki: Arle siirtynee johtoon ekan jaon jälkeen|pg||
nt|wiki: sorry, kävin muualla enkä huomannut että pelataankin ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: no nyt ei otettu|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kareno: Now it can be down one I think ... but let's watch.|pg||
nt|mmmakela: eli swingillä alkaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Tikki pois, koska Järvisen D!Q kertoi, että väri juoksee pelinviejällä|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|davidstern: So ow will finesse diamonds twice and play @HJ and pitch club to make this|pg||
nt|xenya: may be tough now|pg||
nt|davidstern: Should make here|pg||
nt|davidstern: Diamond Diamond and then @HJ|pg||
nt|xenya: he might want to pitch a @C loser on @HJ but... |pg||
nt|pelu: @SA and @S8 would woek fine here|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kaksi segmenttiä on pelattu, tuloksiakin löydätte kisan sivulta|pg||
nt|bagman: Puolustus saa vain herttaässän ja kaksi ristitikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: näin siinä käy kun tarkemmin katsoo|pg||
nt|bagman: Lopputilanne lienee sellainen, että lopussa pöytä on kiinni ja pelinviejällä on AKJ5 ja etelällä QT86|pg||
nt|wiki: patalähtö olis antanut puolustukselle mahdollisuuden|pg||
nt|bagman: tai sitten pelinviejä kuppaa isolla aikaismmin ja saa lopputilanteen, jossa menee vain kaksi valttitikkiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Arle kaventaa|pg||
pc|cA|nt|kareno: Now down one.|pg||
nt|werge: No @C-lead|pg||
nt|wiki: Oisin varmaan mokinut tämän jaon avaamalla 3 @S|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kyllä vaan, olisi heti voinut nostaa pakan pöydälle :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä voi varastaa ristin pienellä ja loput mustat isoilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin välissä Leikola varastaa rouvalla ja lyö valtin|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejälle jää lopuksi 11 tikkiä|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|kareno: If west does not overruff I think it can be down more.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|hedyg: definitely best|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Simple board, this - no problems in the play - my favoutite kind|pg||
nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt sitten menee vain valttitikki ja hertta|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin pelinviejä saa olla tarkkana ettei mene ylimääräistä tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: kirjassa on ruuturouva pohjoisella|pg||
nt|wiki: A=2 K=1|pg||
pc|c5|nt|davidstern: IF west ruffs he loses his trump trick|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkkin kisan sivuille|pg||
nt|kaapo: Joukkueiden nimet ovat tainneet lipsahtaa|pg||
nt|wiki: patalähdöllä olis pohjoisen ollut mahdollista päästä hertalla kiinni lyömään lisää pataa|pg||
nt|wiki: eipä se olis tainnut kuitenkaan auttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Asparaguksen johto kasvaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikolan eväät eivät riitä estämään kuppia ruutuviitoselle|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: there was a similar hand in set 3 where declarer had the chance to cash out for -2 not vul  or ---- go down 5|pg||
nt|daman: the sangria will wear off eventually :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I think it might be a substitute operator for this set. Please bear with him|pg||
nt|bagman: Luonnollisessakin passaaminen on pääsääntöisesti oikein...|pg||
nt|bagman: Menossa on vielä kaksi ristiä ja hertta|pg||
nt|bagman: Yleensä toisena|pg||
nt|wiki: avoimessa tosi outo tarjoussarja mutta hyvä tulos asparagukselle|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubb tarjosi omillaan 3NT ja sai todella hyvän dummyn|pg||
nt|wiki: no, onhan sillä 3 tikkiä, kai pöytä senverran auttaa että saa 9 kerättyä|pg||
nt|wiki: ruutuhollikin oli mairea|pg||
nt|wiki: kuten herttakin|pg||
nt|bagman: Seuraava segmentti alkaa aikataulun mukaan 14:00|pg||
nt|bagman: Kiitokset kaikille|pg||
nt|wiki: jaa tää oli taas tässä  kiitokset  kaikille ja fika:)|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|wiki: kokeille ensin herttaa 3-3 ja jos ei ole niin ruutuässä oikein|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bagman: Jolloin värissä on vain yksi menevä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jos partneri olisi ensimmäisellä tarjouksellaan luvannut sekä ristikuninkaan ja ruutuässän, niin ei ole vaikeaa|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|nt|davidstern: There you go|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, the @D finessesecures the contract|pg||
nt|kareno: King of spades now and claim.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good evening to Jim Hay from Scotland|pg||
nt|frankaus: exciting way to a flat board (i expect) |pg||
nt|kareno: Jim :)|pg||
nt|ahh: hi all |pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day jim|pg||
nt|kareno: If south tries to pitch before taking trumps he will be down two.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: eräs vahvan ristin pelaamisen eduista|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bagman: Nyt tosin ei ollut väliä mutta @DQ oli minusta mielenkiintoinen kortti, koska pelinviejä tietää kuitenkin kellä on J|pg||
nt|wiki: vaikea sanoa tietysti mitä sitten oisi tapahtunut|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristiässän jälkeen @HK:n pitää olla singelton|pg||
nt|bagman: ja sehän on|pg||
nt|wiki: kohta on pakko pelata hertta A|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei kuitenkaan tarvitse kupata rouvalla|pg||
nt|wiki: joku hassu kiristys voi syntyä puolustuksen mielissä - ei muuten|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|maribelxx: Olettekos muuten aikaisemmin kuulleet Suomessa pelattavan pudotuspelejä?|pg||
nt|wiki: Arle-Paganus pelasi juniori PM  Hämeenlinnassa 1971 ja nyt sitte vähän vanhempia|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei tainnut osata|pg||
nt|wiki: ei oikei auttanut vaikka ois nähnytkin kortit|pg||
pc|dK|nt|xenya: but an immediate @HJ would have led to defeat|pg||
nt|kareno: With the clubs sitting as they are, declarer can make five.|pg||
nt|bagman: Välikuppi, ruutua N:n kupille ja valtti pois|pg||
nt|maribelxx: illuusio on vahva ase|pg||
nt|bagman: isoin vuorvarkauksin niin paljon tikkejä kuin saa|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bagman: eli on varaa blokata valtit|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ja usein taikuri itsekin on ihmeissään, että miten se nyt menikään|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wilkinsona: this caontract had a chance a trick back.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Linkkikin löytyi taas (jouduin jälleen yhteysongelmien vuoksi uudelleenkäynnistämään koneen)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisasivulle|pg||
nt|kaapo: Vaihtuukohan myös toisessa pöydässä paritukset kohta - Ylinen jäi pelaamaan vahvaa 1@C-avaustarjoustaan...|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt on hertat nähty|pg||
nt|bagman: yksi menevä vielä jää|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: Using a restricted choice principal when the ten comes down, he should finesse the eight next time.|pg||
nt|wiki: leikola saa ruutu seiskalla vikan tikin :)|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos Etelällä olisi 15 korttia, kiristys olisi voinut toimia|pg||
nt|bagman: Paganus ei siis yrittänytkään sitä |pg||
nt|bagman: jeps|pg||
pc|h6|nt|bagman: Nyt voi ottaa herttamaskin|pg||
pc|h5|nt|hedyg: wonder why he played A@H|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...but now could easily drift -2|pg||
nt|bagman: pelinviejä saa ylitikin ottamalla ruutukupin ja pelaamalla hertan|pg||
nt|wiki: N on varmaankin Kari Koivula|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: It's a free finesse at 4@d, needed for game if in 5@d|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|nt|bagman: ja näin taitaa käydä|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SQ73HAJT83DA652C4,SAKJ986H7DQ8CAT82,ST52HQ6DKT73CQ753,S4HK9542DJ94CKJ96|sv|o|nt|eggy: Good morning everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Peebles in Scotland for the Gold Cup 2008. Final, 8 segments of 8 boards. This is the first|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: good morning from a dreich Peebles|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Peebles in Scotland for the Gold Cup 2008. Final, 8 segments of 8 boards. This is the fifth|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are David Collier, Graham Osborne and Kath Nelson|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator is Margaret Pemble|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: hello again  from Manchester|pg||
mb|p|nt|col3435: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Steve Eginton, Ralf Willquist and David Carlisle|pg||
nt|garnetts: good morning everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator is Margaret Pemble|pg||
mb|1H|nt|henryb: Hello all|pg||
nt|eggy: twins vs twins|pg||
nt|ralfwil: good Morning all of you|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: v confusing|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Walddk4: also welcome to Victor Silverstone|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|col3435: interesting that West chose to double - I'd have just bid the spades again|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: belated afternoon greetings-|pg||
nt|col3435: I'm slightly suprised North would want to compete there|pg||
nt|bobh1: hello everyone|pg||
nt|garnetts: Looks like a routine 4@S contrcat and should not be too tough to guess trumps|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: Hi Bob, Victor|pg||
nt|henryb: and David|pg||
nt|eggy: 1NT is a two suiter of the same shape I expect|pg||
nt|yo_yo: that's a dangerous bid by Stuart if Makinwski has promised 4@C|pg||
pc|c4|nt|bobh1: agree that N did a lot of bidding on a rather mangy collection|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes such a nice @S suit too|pg||
nt|yo_yo: friendly lead!|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: T's precison|pg||
nt|garnetts: Intervention can have it downside|pg||
nt|odysseus69: this is the first time I have seen the Burn- Malinowski partnership - are we sure thats what we have|pg||
pc|s4|nt|garnetts: Maybe 11 tricks coming up|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We are in Peebles, located in the Scottish Borders, on the River Tweed, around 40 miles south of the Scottish capital Edinburgh. Beautiful scenery |pg||
nt|ralfwil: I suppose that 1nt showed a twosuiter, so @sQ is easy to find|pg||
nt|garnetts: I don't think dec will be concerned at losing to Qx in South and suffering a ruff---|pg||
pc|s7|nt|garnetts: South is unlikely to have much defensive potential |pg||
nt|mayors: The double of 2@d implied a side @c suit|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|nt|henryb: with good guesses he might make this. 3@c would be easier|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|col3435: yes they've been switching partnerships throughout|pg||
pc|cK|nt|henryb: but better to defend 2@s, and probably collect 50 on defense|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Walddk4: The only pairing we haven't seen is Malinowski-Sandqvist. They stopped as a partnership|pg||
pc|c8|nt|capercliff: hi all|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|garnetts: cant see why he didn't run the 10@S|pg||
nt|eggy: entries may be a little awkward now|pg||
nt|eggy: I think he needs to switch to diamonds now|pg||
nt|yo_yo: twins in both rooms , very unusual |pg||
nt|mayors: Seems true despite what Nick told me last week!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: More unusual to see them against each other. We did 3 times already today|pg||
nt|odysseus69: winning a silver medal in Beijing seems to have been the end, for the time being at least, of Malinowski-Sandqist|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|eggy: not that one - surely?|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|cQ|mc|9|nt|mayors: Double partscore swing for Collins|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SQT92HDKQJT43CAK6,S53HAQ9643D972C93,SKJ8764H85D865CT7,SAHKJT72DACQJ8542|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: -250 last set was NOT a success|pg||
nt|thegarve: play standard methods in general|pg||
nt|pelu: But pour West has no partner :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: havent you seen Sofia Pessoa bidding?|pg||
nt|daman: GIB?|pg||
nt|fpbridge: Classifications after 4 rounds: http://www.freewebs.com/fpbridge/Camp_Nac_Equipas_after4rounds.pdf|pg||
nt|werge: Funny 4 @S her - difficult to find|pg||
nt|wiki: samassa porukassa oli muute toisen pöydän NS Koivisto-Puurtinen|pg||
nt|wiki: tosin Arle tais pelata Swanljungin kanssa ja Paganus Sokan kanssa|pg||
nt|wiki: taas ois huono slammi|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei se niin kauhean huono ole|pg||
nt|mmmakela: maskintakainen 6|pg||
nt|wiki: no 50|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali selvisi 10 IMPillä, koska Mäkinen ei ottanut kolmatta ristiä pois|pg||
nt|wiki: joo, mäkin aina ihmettelen kun kortiti vaihtuu että huips|pg||
nt|bagman: Honkavuori olisi toki voinut estää pelaamalla padan kädestään|pg||
nt|wiki: 7 on oleellinen olutkortti|pg||
nt|bagman: ei Suomessa; täällä se on kai @H6 :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jossain päin joo|pg||
mb|1C|nt|santyclz: If there are some who didn't see last round, over 100 imps changed hands on 16 boards.|pg||
nt|daman: I have not|pg||
nt|xenya: double fits all around here|pg||
nt|ady: big minor fit    as they lay 6 or either minor|pg||
nt|wiki: kevyt 4 @H alkuun - sitten vähän jakoa|pg||
nt|wiki: olis ruutuK pois niin nähtäis Rimonin 2 @H avaus|pg||
mb|1D|nt|frankaus: 3@C may have failed|pg||
nt|kareno: While 4@s looks good on this hand e/w it will not make with the foul distribution.|pg||
nt|kareno: Particularly since north may interject hearts into the auction.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|davidstern: Stop here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: no half measures|pg||
nt|xenya: spirited 4@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: she is a very agressive bidder|pg||
nt|hedyg: gutsy lady|pg||
nt|hedyg: Pedro who opened 2@D?|pg||
nt|pelu: that must be wrong board|pg||
nt|cuttysark: North South had better not push too hard - EW can make 12 tricks with a bit of luck|pg||
nt|xenya: where will this end i wonder|pg||
nt|pelu: hi all - I am back|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Peter|pg||
nt|Walddk4: God aften to Hans Werge from Østerbro|pg||
nt|wiki: Einari risti (strong)|pg||
nt|wiki: näyttää joltain kolmen tason peliltä - W käynee balansoimassa 2 pataan|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 sangilta näyttää ja hyvin menee jos ei erehdy liikaa herttaan|pg||
nt|wiki: hei taas - saatiinpas uusia pareja :)|pg||
nt|wiki: varmaankin 4 @S tulossa sangiavauksen jälkeen|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin ei partnerit ole oluita tarjonneet; yleensä vaan peliopastusta|pg||
nt|wiki: elämme globalisoituneessa maassa jossa olutta saa lähes kortilla kuin kortilla kunhan ei pelaa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tyrkkö kutsui sitä Hertta Kuusisen pikkusiskoksi Ruut Kuusinen|pg||
mb|p|nt|davidstern: The 5@D vul sacrifice is good if you are a good guesser|pg||
nt|sybarra: my pards never put those hands down for me when I open 4  |pg||
nt|davidstern: especially for red jacks|pg||
mb|3S|nt|mdgraham: 4@S seems about half a spade too much|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have a top spade loser   surely they will settle for game in a minor|pg||
nt|cuttysark: South showing restraint at this vulnerability - maybe NS will do no bidding at all :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|werge: Ready - back in town... hi|pg||
nt|ahh: expect they will stop in part score |pg||
nt|kareno: Hans :)|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ristiä pelattaneen mutta millä tasolla|pg||
nt|wiki: zonissa toki ihan ok|pg||
nt|bagman: maski + ei saa olla totaalikamalaa sitsiä|pg||
nt|bagman: luokkaa varmaan 45%|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 pataa tuhoutuu ristivarkauksiin, jos herttarouvan osaa käyttää yhteytenä|pg||
nt|wiki: tai onhan ruutu menossa kuitenkin|pg||
nt|wiki: 1@S olis ollut ehkä joskus Mano Uskalin valinta|pg||
nt|bagman: Modernimmassa tarjoussysteemissä 1@H olisi vaatimus|pg||
nt|wiki: joskus ollut|pg||
nt|kaapo: Myllyn tulokset löytyvät tuolta: http://www.bridgefinland.com/trials/index.php|pg||
nt|bagman: Miksiköhän pass? Eikö 6 pinnaa olisi riittänyt kahdennukseen?|pg||
nt|bagman: patalähdöllä on 9 kansitikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: risti vahva, einaria|pg||
nt|bagman: Hei taas kaikille. Tässä on ihan säädyllinen slammi|pg||
nt|wiki: slammit jatkuvat, mutta ei kovin hyvä tämä|pg||
mb|d|nt|wilkinsona: Ive watched the 2 previous sessions and they dont seem slow in coming forward to me|pg||
nt|ahh: hi Hans|pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day hans|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, not many points between the hands.|pg||
nt|wiki: tosin Suomessa saa olutta ilman korttejakin - parempi niin|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fpg: both n-s in the open and e-w in closed play 11-14 nt|pg||
nt|jrssd: Hi Tony Francisco|pg||
nt|maribelxx: hmm|pg||
nt|bagman: Koska kestää 4-1 ruudun|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 NT on ok|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6 NT tasan 50% by W|pg||
nt|wiki: no, mä en ole niin moderni, mutta kyllä oon pelannut sitä vaatimuksena viimeiset 35 vuotta|pg||
nt|bagman: vai oliko pass positiivinen?|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä ovat korottaneet pinnalla|pg||
nt|wiki: oisin itse ehkä valinnut 2 NT, mutta tuo ei sitten luvanne herttoja|pg||
nt|bagman: herttamaski olisi aika sporttinen; ristimaskin voi ottaa turvalliseen käteen|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei ylivientejä, ei ongelmia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Heipä hei|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sisarussarjaan kuuluvat tietysti myös Patricia ja Kristiina (ikäjärjestystä en enää muista)|pg||
nt|wiki: ja Leikola hyökkää|pg||
mb|4S|nt|wilkinsona: looks a good bid to me Mike with the sing heart|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 @S on usein oikein, mutta ei sovi tähän jakoon|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämäkään ei taida mennä kotiin |pg||
nt|bagman: kaksi pietiä on aika lähellä|pg||
nt|bagman: eli n. 11 tikkiä tulossa|pg||
mb|5H|nt|santyclz: Well the @hq is onside, can't say everything is wrong.|pg||
nt|ahh: west looks like 2 1/2 @S bid |pg||
nt|wiki: Manolla on maksimit - 3 NT??|pg||
nt|bagman: jeps|pg||
nt|mmmakela: and by E|pg||
nt|wiki: luulen kuitenkin että nebee tasan|pg||
nt|wiki: yes, ja ristimaski on safety joten pannaa  två till|pg||
nt|wiki: ei sukka Sakari ole enää mitää lisättävää!!!|pg||
nt|wiki: sulla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin sarja ei ole vielä päättynyt: 4 @C tulossa|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei tarvinnut siirrellä sitää kuuluisaa Reese-Schapiron viiden punnan seteliä, jonka joutui maksamaan, jos passasi ylivientiin|pg||
nt|wiki: vähän yli 50 kuitenkin|pg||
mb|p|nt|maribelxx: osamerkintäjaoltahan tämä vaikutti, mutten arvannut, että näin alhaisella tasolla|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: 2@D must have been systemic|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: In fact bidding so far has been very interesting|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@D a major 1suiter IMO|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|thegarve: 2D was a multi - weak in either Major, I guess|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely not weak|pg||
nt|thegarve: a bit too good for that|pg||
nt|daman: as a responder/|pg||
nt|hedyg: he did bid 4@H, so not weak|pg||
nt|pelu: operator - can u tell? - and pl. alart|pg||
nt|cuttysark: West knows about the double fit, but surely will settle for game|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Forcing pass, looking fro a spade control?|pg||
nt|xenya: looks plausible|pg||
nt|kareno: Takeout double of spades by north, showing primary diamonds also.|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 3 @C löysähkö|pg||
nt|bagman: Mielenkiintoisen näköistä tarjoamista|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei muuta lisättävää kuin jakauma|pg||
nt|bagman: 4NT on pelattavaksi?|pg||
nt|bagman: Seteli kuulemma vaihtoi omistajaa tasaiseen tahtiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Silloin £5 oli iso raha :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|wiki: No, Kaitsu  tietää|pg||
nt|bagman: lopputulos on kuitenkin aika hyvä|pg||
nt|wiki: mun mielestäni Jukka P ei ollut kiinnostunut|pg||
pc|d6|nt|caitlin: ughhh|pg||
nt|frankaus: fine pass|pg||
nt|werge: Best defence gives 500 against 2 @H D|pg||
nt|kaapo: Heipparallaa, kuinkas täällä hurisee?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: No hitaahkosti vielä :)|pg||
nt|mmmakela: mixei 2 @C jo yhteen herttaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä kasvattaa ruudun ja ottaa herttamaskin. Nopea pelinvienti odotettavissa|pg||
nt|wiki: aika varovaista kuitenkin - 32 ap kuitenkin vaikka tasaista onkin|pg||
nt|bagman: Patalähdöllä pelinviejä saa pelata tarkasti|pg||
nt|wiki: sitoumus on hyvä vaikka tarkka peliä vaatii patalähdöllä|pg||
nt|wiki: 8 tikkiä pelinviejälle|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pitäisi tulla jo pass|pg||
pc|dA|nt|wilkinsona: anyway np reaching the correct contract|pg||
nt|werge: But 430 seems okay|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pelinviejällä on mahdollisuus saada peli kotiin eliminoimalla ylävärit ja pelaamalla AKx ruutua|pg||
nt|wiki: silmät kun laittaa ristiin niin eihä tää mene millään kotiin sorry|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos puolustus ei ota ristikuppia|pg||
nt|wiki: eiks 2 ristiä kuitenkin mene|pg||
nt|bagman: ei, koska KJ peittävät ysin ja kympin|pg||
nt|bagman: Oliko 2NT stenberg 5-kortin avaukseen? Jos oli niin ei minusta kyllä kauhean kuvaava|pg||
pc|dK|nt|thegarve: maybe 2@h is like a 15-17 NT|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes.|pg||
nt|kareno: Good lead also.  Heart would have been very helpful for declarer.|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6@D vähän huonompi jos kuppi tulossa kun valdoässä puuttuu|pg||
nt|wiki: EW prässää kovin, tiukka paikka Uskalille, mutta  5 @H löytyi ja järjestyis ilman varkautta|pg||
nt|wiki: Mikäli Schapiroa tunnen niin ei aivan hiljaisuudessa vaihto tapahtunut|pg||
nt|wiki: en kyllä muuten tuntenut, mutta ääni kuului|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä ei tässä sitoumuksessa ole hirveästi ongelmia, koska @SJ on välissä|pg||
nt|wiki: ristiä vai hertta??|pg||
nt|wiki: tai hertan vaatii myös joten alle 50 sorry|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin ei se 2@Ckään ihan täyttä kuvausta kädestä anna|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|caitlin: who is for 4@C or not with North hand?|pg||
nt|santyclz: On a very good day this might make.  This is not that day.|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and somedays are like these right?  |pg||
nt|sybarra2: just yuk|pg||
nt|bagman: Eliminoinnilla säästyy arvauksesta|pg||
nt|wiki: aivan, yhteydet riittää|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt tosin taitaa mennä ristikuppi|pg||
pc|h2|nt|wiki: hidas wiki :(|pg||
pc|d3|nt|bagman: Hertan kasvatuksen kannalta @DJ istuu oikein ja pöydässä on hyvät välikortit|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mdgraham: it's the old story - 4@H may be going down and pard might be about to double it - you just don't know|pg||
nt|xenya: all very reasonable i think|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Normal result at this vulnerability - I would expect a differnet outcome if NS were non-vulnerable|pg||
nt|xenya: oh certainly|pg||
nt|wiki: ei tässäkään ol eongelmia - pari imppiä ehkä tappiota|pg||
nt|wiki: ehklä pari pata kuppia ja ristimaski?|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä on paljon ikävämpi pelattava kuin 3NT/N patalähdöllä|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto kääntää punaista|pg||
nt|bagman: veikkaan herttanelosta|pg||
nt|bagman: peli menee luultavasti viidessä joka tapauksessa|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|frankaus: @H q of limited value in this auction|pg||
nt|wiki: ihan safetyyn ristikäsittelyyn ei siinä pelitavassa ole varaa eli AK ja ristiä sotilaalle|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: best play|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt menee kotiin. Pelinviejä ei erehdy ristin käsittelyssä (tosin voi hoitaa senkin eliminaatiolla edelleen)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|wiki: olis antanut hyvän kuvan kädestä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: entäs silloin suhde vastakahdennukseen?|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämän jälkeen pelinviejältä menee vielä risti. Vaikka hän saakin kaksi sakausta, yksi menevä jää.|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt tulee sitten se pietittävä kuppi|pg||
nt|bagman: no, nyt taitaa mennä se 3. tikki|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bagman: ja ristikäännöllä ruudun istuessa näin saattaa mennä vielä neljäskin|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahh: north has a nice choice  beats it whatever he does |pg||
pc|c3|nt|bagman: ja nyt kuppi kasilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pelinviejää auttaisi kaikkien korttien näkeminen|pg||
nt|wiki: arvata täytyy....|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|ady: should really have played Q@D|pg||
nt|wiki: kyllä, paras tapa on toki pelata kolme kierrosta ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: Laiskaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä heittänee hertan pois patakäännölle ja menettää vielä kaksi tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä piti eka pata laistaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Ekan padan laisto olisi tuonut ylitikin|pg||
nt|bagman: Toisaalta pata olisi voinut olla 5-1|pg||
nt|wiki: S ois ehkä myös tarjonnut 1 S jos on KQJxx|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bagman: Ehkäpä|pg||
nt|bagman: tuli laskuvirhe; ei olekaan varaa heittää herttaa, koska menee liikaa tikkejä :(|pg||
pc|c9|nt|maribelxx: (ehkäpä se ikäjärj määräytyi yksinkertaisesti maajärjestyksen mukaan) :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Kaikki kupitkin ovat tikkejä|pg||
pc|cT|nt|wiki: tämä on hyvä linja - puolustus vähän neuvoi:)|pg||
nt|wiki: Hyvä patakääntö Rananilta|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt olisi Joukon aika laskea tikit|pg||
nt|bagman: DK, D2-ässälle ja kuppi, ristillä käteen|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt ei enää|pg||
nt|bagman: paitsi pata|pg||
mc|11|nt|ahh: looking like 2 down |pg||
nt|frankaus: the defence has been right on the money|pg||
nt|kareno: It's hard to double a player who overcalled vulnerable when you have only the ace of his suit.|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SQT92HDKQJT43CAK6,S53HAQ9643D972C93,SKJ8764H85D865CT7,SAHKJT72DACQJ8542|sv|n|nt|garnetts: I think the play was a little different |pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ralfwil: agree with 1@s opening|pg||
mb|4H|nt|garnetts: Looks like  another routine game contract|pg||
mb|4S|nt|henryb: If the Tredinnicls play classic preempts, East might open 3@c and play it there|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5S looks the final spot|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i bet EW wont be silenced by that|pg||
nt|mayors: 6 @hX par I think|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5H for sure from East|pg||
mb|5C|mb|5S|nt|garnetts: I would pass--but it is a matter of style|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 2nt gf|pg||
nt|odysseus69: or trying for slam???|pg||
nt|col3435: indeed, why not.|pg||
nt|col3435: doesn't need much|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do we think the 5 level belongs to them? wasnt that a bols bridge tip?|pg||
mb|6H|mb|d|nt|capercliff: hard not to balance with the N hand|pg||
nt|col3435: I don't think North can afford to pass it out|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: I agree David, he has to protect his partners hand|pg||
nt|eggy: doubt that there is a player in this group would give 1@S a second's thought|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: true, but again trading a plus for a minus|pg||
nt|capercliff: the 3@c bid worked well here|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: even if this @c is ducked and declarer guesses @d|pg||
nt|capercliff: some might even be tempted to start with 4@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: can't find 3nt then|pg||
nt|bobh1: at these colors, and with only 3 cards in the majors, 4@c is attractive, especially if you play 3n as the equivalent of an opening 4@c bid|pg||
nt|capercliff: sure|pg||
nt|bobh1: this might drive NS to 4s, which W might double|pg||
pc|cA|nt|garnetts: 3@H is a waste of breath at red|pg||
nt|mayors: well judged all round|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well judged|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|capercliff: this 3N isnt the worst contract ive seen though|pg||
pc|sK|nt|capercliff: ive obviously seen a lot of bad ones:)|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SQT73H7DAKQ754CAT,SA84HKT9652DTC862,SKJ65HJ3D982CKJ94,S92HAQ84DJ63CQ753|sv|e|nt|santyclz: Declarer has worked out a way he doesn't need the @h finesse.  The one thing that would have worked.|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: welcome to John Schuler|pg||
nt|davidstern: That @C8 was a nice card to see|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so make your choice between 3@S and 4@s and good luck|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: bet its 4 spades other room too|pg||
nt|daman: ola|pg||
nt|xenya: another 3N|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 @S - mutta töitä on paljon 10 tikkiin|pg||
nt|wiki: normaali 4 @S kaatuu ruutuvarkauteen|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt ei saanut Charlie tyylipisteitä...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ahaa|pg||
nt|wiki: kyllä sitäkin on ollut liikkeellä - ne oli mun n 6 ekaa vuotta sellaisia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: se taidankin olla minä, joka meistä on vanhanaikainen :)|pg||
nt|bagman: syynä on se, että kaikenkarvaisten RD-iden jälkeen vastustajat pystyvät ehkäisemään turhan hyvin|pg||
nt|bagman: Minä en osannut laskea tikkejä vaikka näin kaikki kortit|pg||
nt|wiki: mää van kirjootin|pg||
nt|bagman: 5@D olisi järjestynyt|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvä alku parsa pojille|pg||
nt|wiki: oon jo sanonutkin, että en pidä stenbergin tarjoamista kolmen tuella kovin hyvänä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Pelaajahan pyrkii valitsemaan parhaan tarjouksen.....joskus vaan joutuukin valitsemaan huonoista vaihtoehdoista sen omasta mielestään vähiten huonon|pg||
nt|bagman: Viimeisellä segmentillä tällaisessa tilanteessa häviöllä oleva joukkue saattaa slammin tarjota|pg||
nt|wiki: korostan  omasta mielestään:)|pg||
mb|1C|nt|jrssd: card play is really fast at this table |pg||
nt|ahh: if they can defend like that  maybe we will see some doubles|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi all (again) |pg||
nt|wiki: jos ja kun W avaa saattaa EW ajautua slammiin|pg||
mb|d!|an|hearts|nt|vugraphzdx: now for standard timing :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: sry all|pg||
nt|fpg: The team of Sofia Pessoa as 2 pairs that represent Portugal in the bermuda bowl 2005 in estoril|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, the @DQ would have been better -- hoping N would err and cover with K10x|pg||
nt|daman: NS will wne theur way to 4@H|pg||
nt|daman: wend|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: hi again,sry for the delate|pg||
nt|daman: can be made if played properly|pg||
nt|fpg: .|pg||
nt|kareno: Time for coffee I think :)|pg||
nt|xenya: i think i'll go and get coffee|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 4@S?|pg||
nt|wiki: 4@S?|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvisellä on vaarallinen @D-kombinaatio|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei saanut; tosin Puurtinen varmaankin mietti sen verran, ettei voinut olla singeltonristiä :)|pg||
nt|wiki: ja nykyään kun avaukset on 9+ niin vanhana ajan repen pitäis olla 14+|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tilaa saattaa hukkaantua, jos vastustaja huomaa tilaisuutensa, totta|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalin ei pitäisi periaatteessa mennä tilttiin ekasta jaosta, koska teoriassa 3NT oli menossa sekin pietiin.|pg||
mb|1H|an|8+ no !H stop|nt|cuttysark: Another possible minor suit slam, but different vulnerability|pg||
nt|kareno: GMTA Vladimir :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I'll get Chinese take-away, see you|pg||
mb|2H|nt|santyclz: We lost Al?|pg||
nt|frankaus: the last auction was interesting  - had the saving grace of working :)|pg||
nt|jrssd: well if Grant Baze says "with 6-5, come alive", with 5-7 "go to heaven"?|pg||
nt|fpg: They are Sofia Pessoa-Jorge Castanheira and Paulo G.Pereira-Rui S.Santos|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: stairway not clear though|pg||
nt|jrssd: South will try to show both suits|pg||
nt|xenya: another 4@S for EW here -- will get there i think|pg||
nt|thegarve: subside in 2@h and a clear trump lead|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks for e/w    N/S can save up to 5 level if guessing heart correctly|pg||
nt|kareno: Won't see too many doubles of partscores at this form of scoring.|pg||
nt|werge: This should end the bidding|pg||
nt|frankaus: when this happens to me i just throw my hands in the air and say take my valuables|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is not as exciting as the potential hand we saw  on the "false start"|pg||
nt|kareno: Much too early for Chinese take-out here in Las Vegas (where it's 9:23 AM)|pg||
nt|bagman: Lisäksi singeltonhertta on erittäin huono|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 @D todella vähän pelottaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Linden-Mäkinen on saanut murska-alun otteluun|pg||
nt|bagman: nykytrendi on pelata 1-yli-1 kuten ilman kahdennusta ja 2-yli-1 ei-vaatimuksena|pg||
nt|bagman: Mielenkiintoinen kahdennus|pg||
nt|wiki: mä siirrän  näppärin oikeaaan kohtaan, että jos vaikka sormet osuis paremmin|pg||
nt|wiki: 5 kortin yläväreillä on heillä minun mielestäni joskus arveluttava tapa tukea 3 padalla|pg||
nt|wiki: NS taitaa vielä pelata 16-19 sangia|pg||
nt|bagman: Eiköhän|pg||
nt|bagman: eikä taida pelata tukikahdennuksia|pg||
nt|vugraphzfx: NS pelaa 16-18 sangia jos kuulin oikein|pg||
nt|wiki: arvaustilanne, ehkä 3-2 tuntuu vähän paremmalta - ne vacant places|pg||
nt|bagman: Avaus taitaa myös päättää tarjoussarjan|pg||
nt|bagman: vai tuleeko kahdeksalla inviitti|pg||
nt|wiki: tarkoitin siis E:n ylävärejä|pg||
mb|3D|nt|hedyg: or not:)|pg||
nt|thegarve: hmmm no 1NT from south|pg||
nt|hedyg: W best pass here|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: awkward hand though|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT nf after pass|pg||
nt|werge: 4 @H in South - you must lead the !G Jack...|pg||
nt|wiki: 2 NT on tuki ja GF|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: north may x 4 hearts though|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 500 save available in 5@Hx|pg||
nt|ahh: my oppenents say  keep them nothing worth taking  :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Yes, but pergect here at 6:23 pm|pg||
nt|Walddk4: *perfect|pg||
nt|wiki: jako 2 - avoin tarjosi 3 NT ja Arle lisää johtoaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Veikkaan, että nyt tulee 3@S|pg||
nt|bagman: Mielenkiintoinen pass Koivistolta|pg||
nt|bagman: moderneissa PARTNERSHIPEISSÄ nykytrendi on pelata konventioita|pg||
nt|bagman: lupasi varmaan herttoja ja ristejä|pg||
nt|wiki: a la Nortola|pg||
nt|wiki: en ole varma mutta saattaa luvata ristisingelin|pg||
nt|wiki: siitä ei ole kirjoitettu vielä kirjaa :)|pg||
nt|wiki: kiitos Pinja!  maailma muuttuu....|pg||
nt|wiki: 2 pataa riittänee |pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalin 2@S päättänee sarjan|pg||
nt|bagman: Värit istuvat kiltisti mutta yhteyksiä on aika vähän|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hedyg: S didnt raise @ss so pd likely to have them|pg||
nt|kareno: North will probably check back for three spades in south.  |pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: Playing transfers would be great here, as you would like to show Diamonds then bid 4S|pg||
nt|frankaus: will S decide to defend 4@H X ?|pg||
nt|jrssd: dont thk so|pg||
nt|jrssd: he hasnt showed his SEVEN card suit yet|pg||
nt|jrssd: shown|pg||
nt|frankaus: pd has heard he got a 2 suiter and says i dont care|pg||
nt|fpg: if i know M lima i think he is going to bid 5@d|pg||
nt|fpg: but i might be wrong :)|pg||
nt|jrssd: many players use Rubensohl when the opponents interfere over 1N - bids of 2N and higher are transfers|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: does 5 d make, though..|pg||
nt|frankaus: i think mant would chosse not to defend with his hand|pg||
nt|frankaus: many|pg||
nt|jrssd: Playing Rubensohl, South could bid 3C, then Spades|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: thinking|pg||
nt|jrssd: this is a terrible problem for South|pg||
nt|fpg: 5@d is the bidding in the other table|pg||
nt|jrssd: Partner could have the AKxx of Diamonds, and not a single one cashes|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well, we wouldn't choose to defend, but also we dont like to cross partner..|pg||
nt|frankaus: yes like rubensohl - developeped by bruce neill and teammates at my bridge club |pg||
nt|jrssd: for example, reverse North's minors|pg||
nt|fpg: yes true|pg||
nt|xenya: bur W might be in a quandary -- what should he bid 3 or 4?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: sac coming|pg||
nt|cuttysark: hey certainly won't get rich from doubling 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: nice save for n/s|pg||
nt|ady: made life difficult for opps|pg||
nt|daman: from the Meadowlands? :)|pg||
nt|werge: @H jack|pg||
nt|wiki: vauikea uskoa, ehkä miettii vielä edellistä jakoa|pg||
nt|bagman: kuten esimerkiksi ylivientejä ja vastaavia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: varmaan tilanne, josta olisi syytä keskustella partnerin kanssa|pg||
nt|kaapo: Asparagus tarkoittaa siis parsaa. Se oli jonkun Rananin potilaan käyttämä nimi Alzheimerin taudille|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikolan käsi on marginaalitapaus. Pinnat puoltaisivat inviittiä mutta 4333 passia |pg||
nt|wiki: ilman ristilähtöä ois kolme...|pg||
nt|bagman: Taas tuli lähtö. Käyn viemässä Maijun sen kaverin luokse. Palaan vielä tälle segmentille.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: no mutta tietenkin, omilla aivoillaan jokainen yrittää pelata....tosin olisihan se hienoa, jos vois käyttää jotain lisämuistia esim|pg||
nt|wiki: aika negatiivista on tullut tänään vahvaan ristiin|pg||
nt|wiki: hertassa 8 tikkiä kuitenkin helposti|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä on menossa kaksi ruutua ja pata mutta kaikkea ei taida voida hanskata|pg||
nt|bagman: Eli lähes maattu täyspeli mutta ei ehkä ihan|pg||
nt|wiki: joo, pari pataa täytynee antaa tai sitten hertta|pg||
nt|bagman: Veikkaan yhdeksää tikkiä|pg||
mb|4S|nt|jrssd: now 4H coulld easily make|pg||
nt|werge: Wrong Jack...|pg||
nt|daman: yes   one lead only and impossible|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: LOL.  I see about five tricks for declarer.  He might scrounge a sixth but it's doubtful against this pair.|pg||
nt|daman: Good Morning everyone|pg||
nt|werge: Sure - but amusing|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikola nostaa kuitenkin patakuvalla ja singeltonristillä|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaikuttaa screen-onnettomuudelta|pg||
nt|wiki: onks toi 14-16?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: South was on a blind guess|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well, if he bids it, hes got to make it|pg||
nt|fpg: so 800 to n/s i think|pg||
nt|jrssd: have to adjust my screen, brb|pg||
nt|thegarve: what was that you were saying about aggressive bidders?|pg||
nt|wiki: slammihajut hävisivät|pg||
nt|bagman: pelinviejä ottaa ristin jälkeen 2xruutua ja pelaa pienen hertan kohti pöytää|pg||
nt|wiki: itse kannatan passia|pg||
nt|wiki: hyväksymme|pg||
mb|p|nt|wiki: lähtö auttaa, mutta ei pelasta|pg||
nt|wiki: muistaaksen ruotsalaiset alkoivat pelata 1yli1 vaatimuksena 70 luvun lopuula 2yli 1 ei kai koskaan ole ollut vaatimus mun aikana|pg||
nt|bagman: Pietipeli vaihtoi omistajaa|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvin toimi|pg||
nt|bagman: Varmaankin jotain muuta kuin 15-17|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä vähän värdeerattu ylös? eiks pitäis olla 15-17|pg||
nt|wiki: tosi vaisua Pesoselta|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahh: not easy for the defence |pg||
nt|bagman: 10 pisteellä Sundsten tuskin olisi invitoinut 15-17 sangia vastaan|pg||
nt|wiki: no joo, onhna noi toki hyvät 14|pg||
nt|wiki: isko nyt 10 tikkiä ja aika nopeastikin|pg||
nt|bagman: Olipas aggressiivinen veto Sundstenilta|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how this auction would have gone in the days when 1@S-2@H was NOT game force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: needless to say -- good stop in 3@D|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2NT would have been final contract in Standard American|pg||
nt|santyclz: Standard American no longer exists.|pg||
nt|caitlin: SAYC|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Standard American these days|pg||
nt|caitlin: but I much prefer 2/1:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a number of the pairs in last week's australian matches were Acol-ish 2/1 bidders|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well judged south I say|pg||
nt|pelu: again West take the chicken-way :) |pg||
nt|hedyg: i likely would have passed as S|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: Fantastic sunny day in Oporto|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä ei taida olla ainoatakaan korttia, joka hämäisi Arlen|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 10ä yrittänee|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin puolustus voi kestää|pg||
nt|wiki: joo, edes iso ruutu ei ois nyt auttanut, kun W voi katsoa vaikka ristiässllä lisätietoa|pg||
nt|bagman: Paganus ei olisi lähtenyt kasilla 862:sta|pg||
nt|wiki: mut ois ruutu J ollut edes yritystä|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkisen pitää pelata K|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttamaski ja sitten pataa kädestä|pg||
pc|hT|nt|xenya: indeed -- not clear what EW could do after the 4@S bid|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Should get the heart right now with the opening bid in West|pg||
nt|wiki: pelinvienti kestää......|pg||
nt|wiki: toiseen tikkiin herrta 10 , mutta sitten..|pg||
nt|wiki: mä aloiti 1867 eikun 1967|pg||
nt|bagman: minun aktiiviurani aikana tulivat ylivientipohjaiset ratkaisut|pg||
nt|maribelxx: niitä ylivientivastauksia olen nähnyt täällä bbo:n raamoissa, nykyisin jo muidenkin kuin vain italialaisten käyttävän|pg||
nt|bagman: siitäkin on jo aikaa mutta yliviennit eivät koskaan menestyneet tilapäispartnershipeissä Suomessa|pg||
nt|wiki: cid holm aloitti ne tietääkseni Suomessa joskus 1975|pg||
nt|wiki: oisko|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|bagman: Toinen ruutu kestää joten puolustus on AAK + ruutu|pg||
nt|bagman: EW:n aktiivinen tarjoaminen ajoi NS:n täyspelistä: 4@H olisi normaalisti helppo kotipeli|pg||
nt|wiki: aika hurja 4 pataa - inviittikin ois ollut siinä rajoilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaarattomassa vyöhykkeessä vain 4k värillä ja singeltonilla partnerin värissä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: heti pisimmän värin kimppuun|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvä ratkaisu|pg||
nt|wiki: mites sitten NS?|pg||
nt|bagman: tai kaksi herttamaskia ja pataa kädestä|pg||
pc|d3|nt|frankaus: excellent decision |pg||
nt|fpg: even if they make 5@d in the open room it will be a 9 imp swing to Miguel Lima|pg||
nt|kareno: It's sunny here in Las Vegas but only 60 degrees Fahrenheit.  Bet it's warmer in Oporto!!|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bagman: Tämäkin käy|pg||
nt|maribelxx: niinkuin kurssillakin opetetaan sangipelissä|pg||
pc|dT|nt|fpg: if they go down 3|pg||
nt|bagman: Ehkäpä nykyään jo enemmän...|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|thegarve: back to the coop|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalin olisi pitänyt pelata A|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt 4@H kaatuu ristikuppeihin|pg||
pc|s3|nt|wilkinsona: sure, havnt seen either of these pairs yet,|pg||
nt|ady: I am sure same problem in the other room    what is Haffe supposed to do  bid 5@H?  or even 5@D   ?|pg||
nt|frankaus: occasinally its gr8 fun defending - mostly - rather be dummy and go to the bar for beers|pg||
nt|kareno: Declarer doing well.|pg||
nt|wiki: mut mun partnereilla on aina 15 jos mä tarjoan|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos @HQ olisi saanut pitää, miten Järvienen olisi hakenut 7. tikkinsä?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|hedyg: both 2@d and 2@s rebids by pd would be bad |pg||
nt|hedyg: also not great if he passes over 1NT|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: please translate Far to cewlsuis|pg||
nt|wiki: ruutukääntö ois hyvä, mutta vaikea|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt ei mene enää kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei niin millään|pg||
nt|bagman: valtin poiston jälkeen|pg||
pc|sK|nt|wiki: ainakin mun kanssa Paganus pelaa 135 lähtöjä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ottaako @CA:n pois? |pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: but I agree with west pass for what its worth|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei ole vielä pietissä|pg||
nt|wiki: 14-16 sain tiedon kiitos|pg||
nt|wiki: ja rajoitettu avaus|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin kotipeli alkaa lähetä, koska ristiä ei avattu|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|wilkinsona: well Ace of hearts lead helped 5 d OR|pg||
nt|fpg: yes true|pg||
nt|frankaus: on track to make|pg||
nt|ahh: home now |pg||
pc|sQ|nt|wiki: vähän helpotusta pelinviejälle (?)|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei taida kuitenkaan riittää vieläkään|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 4NT, then 5@D over 5@C to show hearts and diamonds?|pg||
nt|daman: quickclaim|pg||
nt|bagman: Laisto oli itse asiassa aika huolimaton; erityisesti, koska Mäkinen mietti|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaarattomassa vyöhykkeessä täyspelin pitäisi olla n. 50-prosenttinen|pg||
pc|c2|nt|wiki: ei aivan, mutta läheltä liippaa, puolustuksen apua vielä tarvitaan|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i think East needed to force @C guess at trick 3|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ruutu näytti luonnolliselta, pata J kolmannest outo|pg||
nt|wiki: Mano arveli ilmeisesti, että vuorovarkauksin tulis 10 tikkiä, eikä kai väärässä olekaan|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wilkinsona: this play maybe not best..|pg||
nt|frankaus: may be -4 now|pg||
nt|fpg: could be -4|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: seems that declarer had a slightly better chance of inducing a defensive error|pg||
nt|xenya: down 3 -- 5@S can be made if you guess spades|pg||
nt|xenya: barring the inspired @D lead from S of course|pg||
nt|wiki: no, 2 @H näyttäis olevan menossa kotiin tässä kuitenkin,mutta täytyyhän senioripeleissä aina muistella :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä on luokkaa 20%|pg||
nt|kaapo: Kati: "Pesonen joutui lähtemään - oli menoja"|pg||
nt|bagman: Kun N ei renottanut 1. ristille, 2x ruutua ja pikkuhertta olisi taannut 7 tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: erikoinen maski juu|pg||
nt|wiki: jännä @H4 742:sta - selkeä pituusmerkinanto??|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|mdgraham: can be defeated double dummy|pg||
nt|bagman: Paganus ei yrittänyt mitään hienoa|pg||
nt|wiki: vois kyllä levittää|pg||
nt|bagman: Saletti 9 tikkiä 5 herttaa, kaksi pataa sekä kaksi ristiä|pg||
mc|11|nt|wiki: jotkut sanovat 55, mutta uskon sinua :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos tämän saisi läpi, peli olisi kotona|pg||
nt|kaapo: Se jäi epäselväksi, olivatko ne 5 punnan menoja vai mitä ;)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tässä risti oli niin tiivis, että sitä kannattaa kasvatta|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SQT73H7DAKQ754CAT,SA84HKT9652DTC862,SKJ65HJ3D982CKJ94,S92HAQ84DJ63CQ753|sv|e|nt|capercliff: just exit a @s|pg||
nt|odysseus69: they knew hearts were 2-0- looks right from West hand to keep bidding|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|garnetts: The two imps on baord one can be attributed to non intervention by South--Dec had no clues|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3H|mb|4H|nt|henryb: If he plays a @s W can lead @hA and dummy is in a peculiar position.  If he jetisons @hK defense can play @d. If he does not defenfer can cash @sA and endplay dummy|pg||
nt|garnetts: well at least we are learning about precision and defence to it|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 1H = reds or blacks|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|bobh1: EW can make as many @c's as they choose to bid on this one|pg||
nt|capercliff: what about after the K@h holds Henry?|pg||
nt|col3435: west could exit with a small diamond I think?|pg||
nt|henryb: West wins @s and exits low @d. wins @s, cashes @d and exits low @h|pg||
nt|bobh1: what is 1@c?|pg||
nt|col3435: 1@c = strong|pg||
nt|henryb: strong|pg||
nt|bobh1: and what about 3@d?|pg||
nt|henryb: weak|pg||
nt|bobh1: so getting to 6@c may be tricky|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|garnetts: oddly I think a partcsore is the limit here|pg||
pc|c3|nt|henryb: or even 6@h, which is also cold|pg||
nt|capercliff: hi all|pg||
pc|cT|nt|capercliff: 6@c has a bit of work to do....|pg||
nt|bobh1: the 3@d bid preempted your own auction|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
nt|capercliff: e has 4 losers, where are they going?|pg||
nt|garnetts: likely to lose four tricks in spades --and might get 3NT through if this is ducked|pg||
nt|eggy: West shouldn't find ducking the first trick too testing|pg||
nt|ralfwil: With a @d lead declarer has to duck|pg||
nt|garnetts: did well to avoid 4@S|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|bobh1: cannot be a good strategy|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hi cliff|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|ralfwil: I think they got some help from opponents bidding|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|ralfwil: Well played to duck|pg||
nt|garnetts: as I mentioned previously intervention has its downsides|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|mc|11|nt|bobh1: 7@c has a bit of work to do; 6@c seems pretty simple|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SAKQHAKQJT4D962CT,S953H3DKQT73CA976,SJ64H765DAJ84CKQJ,ST872H982D5C85432|sv|b|nt|santyclz: I don't think there has been a standard american since Goren.|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2/1 is a bidding system only--you add what you like |pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Beijing CC's I noticed an increase in the treatment of 1M-1N; 2@C=2+ / 2@D=4+|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: north scores last trick with the diamond 2|pg||
nt|jrssd: teammates will be proud of their +400, until they hear "lose 12"|pg||
nt|sybarra: fun dealer today |pg||
nt|davidstern: Less than double dummy if by some chance west is declarer - transfer opening for example|pg||
nt|davidstern: 6@H perhpas here|pg||
nt|davidstern: Or 7 if adventurous|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: its norths declarer play that looks of form to me|pg||
nt|pelu: again I dont exp same contract in open|pg||
nt|ady: only 100  here    good reward for n/s|pg||
nt|ahh: east hands are getting worse |pg||
nt|kareno: Yes.  On the auction, even with Qxx, I like a trump lead.  Partner is marked with trump length and dummy could have an accidental ruff.|pg||
nt|daman: potential slam here|pg||
nt|werge: @H-guess here|pg||
nt|wiki: vauhtia riittää - 2 kertaa 1 hertta kotiin ja nyt 2 herttaa oli liikaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Periaatteessa täyspeli maksaa 6 IMP tai tuottaa 6IMP eli 50/50 on aika lailla ok|pg||
nt|wiki: mut bangataan aina, kun ne tietää mun pelinviennit|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sattaa helpottaa partnerin elämää merkittävästi|pg||
nt|wiki: kylläpä luki Ranan huonosti jaon , voi murhe|pg||
nt|bagman: Jokainen tikki on tässä vaiheessa lähes yhtä tärkeä kuin board-a-match-ottelussa|pg||
nt|wiki: mitähän Rami laski Rananin avauskäteen|pg||
nt|bagman: 4 pataa järjestynee|pg||
nt|bagman: menossa hertta ja kaksi ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: TOiseen suuntaan on menossa kaksi mustaa tikkiä|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: ...match quickly to life|pg||
nt|sybarra: ugh|pg||
nt|sybarra: no thanks |pg||
nt|xenya: yes, easy to beat it if by W, almost impossible if by E|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ei imppivaihtoa tässä osiossa|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt voi olla tulossa|pg||
nt|bagman: onko oikea tilanne se mikä näkyy eli 54-37?|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt vois kokeilla 4 herttaa|pg||
nt|wiki: näyttäis vauhdikkaalta - 4 @H by EW ?|pg||
nt|bagman: Sekä tämä ottelu että mylly ovat kohtuullisen tasaisia|pg||
nt|wiki: NS saattaa löytää taas 4 @H|pg||
nt|wiki: Pesosen vai Reesen??  siis 5 puntaiset|pg||
nt|wiki: siis heille - olen toki puolueeton|pg||
nt|bagman: Iso swingi siis on mahdollinen|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: may save in 5C v 4H|pg||
nt|daman: the end position was read very poorly|pg||
nt|frankaus: hands have been interesting  - we should give a tip to the dealing machine|pg||
nt|daman: my huess is they will bid it|pg||
nt|daman: guess*|pg||
nt|wiki: Eiks Harjattula olekaan Kaarinaa?|pg||
nt|bagman: On täysin mahdollista, että avoimessa huoneessa pelataan 1NT kotiin|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: as is SAYC there is the original but it is a bidding framework only|pg||
nt|pelu: Operator -pl chance result -not -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: W will love the 1@s bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: his hand is huge now|pg||
nt|daman: 4@S is also a make|pg||
nt|wiki: taas on voimaa paljon mutta tikkejä niukasti|pg||
nt|wiki:  1 NT- 2 NT-3NT jatko?? vow! Mano ei hellitä - bidder's game|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 NT ??  1-3|pg||
nt|bagman: Optimi on 5@SX -1|pg||
nt|wiki: turhan tasaisia jakoja Uskalin kannalta, mutta aina sattuu ja tapahtuu (ah kuin hieno fraasi)|pg||
nt|wiki: tämähän on kuitenkin jalkapalloa|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä voi tapahtua: Järvinen tarjoaa vielä|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos Järvisen kahdennus on 'tavallinen' negatiivinen, en olisi valinnut sitä vaan 2@S|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaikuttaa kuitenkin siltä, että X on konventionaalinen|pg||
mb|1C|nt|thegarve: 3nt would be fun|pg||
nt|daman: they might get beyond the game level   then it's going to be a problem|pg||
nt|kareno: Allison's Law circa 1964 was "There's always a ruff in the dummy!!"  ... even on this hand!|pg||
nt|sybarra: my auntie would play for the drop no doubt |pg||
nt|werge: North shoul lead the @C  Ace - and look like a trump trick|pg||
mb|1S|an|majors or minors|nt|santyclz: That's why I asked, Al.  The @h return seemed to be catering for 5332.|pg||
nt|pelu: easy 4@C by West|pg||
nt|ahh: south has a nice dilemma  pass and pick up 100s or try to  bid 3nt|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm not fond of south's pass.  He could be missing game easily.  |pg||
nt|xenya: nice 4@H for NS on slender values here?|pg||
nt|bagman: Linden vie yli ja tekee 3NT|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkinen korjaa 4@Htaan|pg||
nt|wiki: vahva risti|pg||
nt|bagman: Varmaan päätyvätkin sinne|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalille jäi vähän reserviin|pg||
nt|bagman: vaihtoehto olisi ollut tarjota suoraan 2@H ja antaa partnerin sitten hoitaa loput|pg||
nt|bagman: Arlella on nyt myötätuuli; katsotaan jatkuuko se|pg||
nt|wiki: hertta on onnellisesti ja 10 tikkiä otettavissa|pg||
nt|bagman: 2@H reverse ja sitten 3NT|pg||
nt|wiki: ainakin värikästä|pg||
nt|bagman: Tulikohan Pesoselle yllätyksenä, että pelit jatkuvat vielä sunnuntainakin :)|pg||
nt|wiki: eipä tietenkään|pg||
nt|bagman: Kyllä minusta Honkavuoren käsi mahtuu 15-17 sangiin aika hyvin|pg||
nt|wiki: Stubbin sangissa saa olla 5 yv muistaakseni, mut Ramilla sitten ei|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei ässiä, KQ dubbelton|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei siis ole mikään hyppysangi minusta|pg||
nt|wiki: ei voi olla oikein kenenkään puolella kun kaikki on kavereita|pg||
nt|wiki: kunhan vain pelaisivat hyvin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: se olisi tietenkin toivottavaa :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|wilkinsona: 6 spades may be ok too, and perhaps more likely contract|pg||
nt|davidstern: 6@S not so great methinks as South's hand could be dead very quickly. How about a trump lead|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 3@s takes up a lot of room|pg||
nt|sybarra: experts may make this slam  |pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä lienee aika kallista|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|jrssd: a penalty like that sometimes can inhibit a pairs aggressiveness|pg||
nt|sybarra: and S hasnt even bid his suits yet|pg||
nt|davidstern: Nort knows abouth South's hearts|pg||
nt|davidstern: 2@D transfer response|pg||
nt|davidstern: Shwoing hearts|pg||
nt|davidstern: South can now bid clubs|pg||
nt|mdgraham: is that certain?|pg||
nt|davidstern: 100%|pg||
nt|davidstern: what else could an alerted 2@D be|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure 2 @D is transfer,  perhaps "waiting"|pg||
nt|daman: First blood to Araujo|pg||
nt|kareno: Anyone translate 60 farenheit to celsius?|pg||
nt|xenya: could be beaten i guess, but worth trying anyway|pg||
nt|werge: Bet they  will stop in 2 @H|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä olisi 500 vaan ei taida kelvata|pg||
nt|wiki: Leikolakin keventänyt välitarjouksiaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Onkohan nyt yliviennit? :)|pg||
nt|wiki: 0-5 (6)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: vahva ristiavaus ja negatiivinen vastaus|pg||
nt|wiki: kyllä, suhtautuu varovasti kahdennuksiin ja ymmärrän edellisen jaon perusteella|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalilla ei ollut mitään syytä tarjota|pg||
nt|wiki: ja 4 @S?|pg||
nt|bagman: Sitten pitää vaan osata passata|pg||
nt|wiki: huonohko 5 @H|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä "ylivienti" |pg||
mb|4H|nt|daman: and they may play for the 3-1 trump break    the law of symmetry might be invoked     singletons breed singletons|pg||
nt|fpbridge: @H Criei nova página da Federação Portuguesa de Bridge. Ver em:  www.fpbridge.webs.com|pg||
nt|daman: gracias|pg||
nt|fpbridge: @H I made a new page of Portuguese Bridge Federation. Can be seen at:  www.fpbridge.webs.com|pg||
nt|werge: Yes - but which way the 3-@H´s|pg||
nt|bagman: Mitäpäs nyt, Uskali?|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 kierrosta ristiä ja 4 risti herttaässän jälkeen tosin kasvattaa hertta 8:n|pg||
mb|p|nt|davidstern: Ah sorry indeed thought North opened 1@S|pg||
nt|sybarra: better hand than 2 @H  neg. |pg||
nt|davidstern: late at night here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: says "ask" on the bidding diagram|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: that 3 spades looks like a 2-suiter..|pg||
nt|daman: won 4 on Bd 1    the famous 2@D hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: good 4@s bid, 4@H would take pd overboard|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: this might go off|pg||
nt|thegarve: he can handle the force, Luke|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|hedyg: S is on lead|pg||
nt|frankaus: S was in a awkward position here - 1NT  or 2NT  (15-17) would have been a option for me|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, might be tough to reach |pg||
nt|wiki: No pakko lähteä sitten Turkuun :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Koiviston pitäisi löytää ristilähtö|pg||
nt|wiki: ristilähtöä on mahdoton löytää, joten saattaa mennä kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: 3-5 down|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin 3 tasolla olisi varmaan kalliimpaa ainakin kahdennettuna|pg||
nt|bagman: Veikkaan 11 tikkiä; herttaässä jää seuraavaan jakoon|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt on sitten päätöksen paikka!|pg||
nt|bagman: Pass on kallis valinta|pg||
nt|wiki: rananin ois pitänyt tarjota vielä 5 @D|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä voi olla ottelun ratkaisu|pg||
nt|wiki: ja mä kun puhuin tasaisista jaoista - en katsonu kuin sun tekstin 4 padasta :(|pg||
mb|4N|nt|frankaus: maybe something to be learnt from last - competing red V green 4 level after Strong NT open|pg||
nt|jrssd: a normal opening bid of 1N, despite the 6 card minor|pg||
nt|daman: look at the bidding on board 1 in the OR     something strange is going on    either that or every bid is tactical|pg||
nt|xenya: 3N or 4@S?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: mietinkin, että malttako Uskali mielensä...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Muutama nuorempi bridgenharrastajakin on näköjään eksynyt katsomoon, joten kerrottakoon, että mainitsemani Tyrkkö on nyt jo edesmennyt Juhani Tyrkkö.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Hän otti nuoret Einariristiä opetelleet pojat joukkueeseensa 70-luvulla ja oli merkittävä innostaja ja vaikuttaja Turun bridgessä. Loppiaiskisoissa pelataan hänen muistokisansa ...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Einari Cup. Tervetuloa!|pg||
nt|bagman: Tarjousvoitto Leikola-Järviselle|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: aha -- but then weird opening lead|pg||
nt|frankaus: quick 9 here i expect|pg||
nt|davidstern: I dont like game force on these hands with 2 suiters I much prefer opening one as it allows both suits to be shown at low level|pg||
nt|sybarra: I am with you David|pg||
nt|davidstern: Imagine on this auction South is void spades and has 4 clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: not anymore|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tänään pelataan 48 jaon pudotusottelu. Kolme joukkuetta pelaa myllyssä ja yksi niistä pääsee huomiseen finaaliin. Näistä kahdesta, joita voimme seurata, voittaja on toinen ...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: finalisti.|pg||
nt|bagman: Olipas erikoinen 3@D|pg||
nt|wiki: stayman|pg||
nt|maribelxx: gladiaattorilta näyttää|pg||
nt|bagman: varmaankin 18-20 NT ja liekös tämä gladiator?|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä myös 2 @C  - valitse yläväri - vaatii vain kahden atsolle kuten itse pelaan|pg||
nt|wiki: pass ois ollut paikallaan, mutta 2 @S on nyt ok, joten ei hätää|pg||
nt|bagman: Sitoumus ei ole kovin hyvän oloinen mutta mennee kotiin ellei puolustus onnistu tekemään kahta valttitikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: No, Jukka osaa passata kun Sakari ei viimeksi |pg||
nt|maribelxx: (ne nuoret oli niitä senaattori joukkueen jäseniä...)|pg||
mb|5C|nt|wilkinsona: unlucky heart break, unlucky to get caught imo|pg||
nt|mdgraham: agree|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: reckon this will make ..|pg||
nt|sybarra: never can explain a 2 suiter |pg||
nt|xenya: what a lead!|pg||
nt|davidstern: I will bet a can of coike it wont make|pg||
nt|ady: could be 3NT for e/w  with stiff k@D     I think spades only a part score|pg||
nt|daman: the Queen lies over the King according to my mother|pg||
nt|daman: she would make it     the rest of us would go down|pg||
nt|kareno: I would have bid 2@h after 1nt but I understand north's reluctance with a weak hand.|pg||
nt|werge: But 2 @H promises a stronger hand!|pg||
nt|mmmakela: jep|pg||
nt|wiki: Kauko opettanut ??|pg||
nt|wiki: @SJ näyttää normaalilta|pg||
nt|wiki: ristilähdöllä näen 8, mutta mistä 9.|pg||
nt|bagman: Puurtisen olisi pitänyt lähteä sekvenssistä kympillä tai ysillä riippuen sopimuksista|pg||
nt|wiki: ei vetoja|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: I use 2NT in balancing seat to show a good 15 to 18 in your style, Frank.  I like that treatment.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tämä on seniorikarsinnan toinen 8 jaon segmentti. Koska mukana on viisi joukkuetta, niin kolme muuta pelaavat myllyssä.|pg||
nt|bagman: Varmaan, pääsee itse pelaamaan. Tosin Arlen korteilla haluaisin olla joko puolustamassa tai puu-ukkona|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 2 NT lienee scramble|pg||
nt|wiki: en tarkoittanut 3 ruutua todellakaan|pg||
nt|bagman: pelinviejä pelannee 4 patakierrosta ja sakaa molemmat ristit pois|pg||
nt|wiki: näin olis paras|pg||
nt|bagman: näin puolustus ei pysty pelaamaan neljättä pataa ristin ottamisen jälkeen|pg||
nt|bagman: voi olla toki staymankin|pg||
nt|wiki: aha|pg||
nt|maribelxx: 2@D olisi stayman negatiivisen jälkeen|pg||
nt|wiki: ok- uskotaan leaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Vanhassa Einarissa oli gladiator|pg||
nt|maribelxx: positiivisen jälkeen on vaan baron|pg||
nt|maribelxx: eli etelä yrittää stopata kahteen herttaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaikuttaa kuitenkin siltä, ettei 2@H ole puhdas stoppari|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalilla on minimi eikä mikään kovin ihmeellinen käsi herttapeliin|pg||
nt|wiki: 6-4 llä aika vaisua, jos on todellakin stoppari, maksimit kuitenkin. mikä ois inviitti?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: lieneekö kohta, jossa Mano haistelee tuulen suuntaa...|pg||
nt|bagman: Hyvä vainu, koska 4@H järjestyy ja Sundsten tarjoaa sen pienenkin inahduksen jjälkeen|pg||
nt|wiki: ruudut ja @SJ98 saattaa tuottaa mielenkiintoa|pg||
nt|wiki: hieman outo pass koivistolta|pg||
nt|bagman: Halpenee|pg||
nt|wiki: jääkiekossa ehkä valmentaja ottais aikalisän|pg||
nt|bagman: Juuso voi kokeilla herttanaulaa nyt|pg||
mb|5D|nt|xenya: right you are, David|pg||
nt|daman: if Dias is Day     is Neto Night?|pg||
nt|xenya: to me, it would just show an unbalanced hand and 3@Hs|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tuloksia on luvassa siis vasta tämän segmentin jälkeen|pg||
nt|bagman: :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisasivulle|pg||
nt|wiki: menee välillä nää jutut hassusti ristiin:)|pg||
nt|bagman: Kaikki värit istuvat todella mukavasti joten Arle voi saada tämän kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: joskus jopa ruutuun|pg||
nt|wiki: tasolle|pg||
nt|bagman: aggressiivinen Sundsten rankaisi balansoijaa mutta onnistuneesti|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinvienti vaatii tarkkuutta tarkkuutta mutta ei ole mitenkään mahdoton|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä ei pitäisi olla ongelmia kun kortti on kiltisti. ristit varastetaan ja @HA on toisena|pg||
nt|wiki: patalähtö ei huoleta puhku puurtista|pg||
nt|wiki: risti 8 toki hidastaa kivasti|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä pass ois pitkän päälle parempi|pg||
nt|bagman: Levitys tulossa|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: another thing i noticed in Beijing -- pairs playing Support DBLs at the 3-level|pg||
nt|davidstern: Diet coke that is|pg||
nt|daman: these is a decent sacrifice|pg||
nt|sybarra: have not been right on this yet,  they didnt bid 6, no ace of club lead etc etc etc |pg||
nt|maribelxx: 2@H yhteen sangiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Taisi olla inviittisarja ja Uskali passasi, koska oli minimit|pg||
nt|maribelxx: lupaisi herttavärin ja sen 4-5|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta pikkuruutulähtö ei ole kovin luonnollista|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttalähdöllä olisi voinut olla mahdollisuuksia|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvisen on laistettava nyt, jos pietiä aikoo|pg||
nt|wiki: ota nyt, et voi levittää, pls|pg||
mb|5S|nt|wilkinsona: well, definately dont like that, whatever the result...could surely have x 4 clubs earlier|pg||
nt|kareno: And 3NT would not have been a bad gamble either.|pg||
nt|bagman: Taksa -3 IMP|pg||
nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalin kädessä ei minusta ole riittävää pelivoimaa 3 tasolle|pg||
nt|bagman: voi levittää laistonkin jälkeen :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: Then it was a stiff o/l.  Not that weird even with 4 small trumps.|pg||
nt|davidstern: Shipped air express|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Sen selvittämiseksi minkä kunnan puolella se on, täytyy tutkia karttoja :)|pg||
nt|wiki: nillä on kai 135|pg||
mb|6H|nt|cuttysark: 3NT not easy, but 4@S looks impossible, they have done well to stop low|pg||
nt|ady: if it were 3NT   much better from East|pg||
nt|wiki: Tässähän pelaa ehkä karsintojen kaksi parasta joukkuetta eli moraalinen finaali|pg||
nt|mmmakela: patamaski näyttäis käyvän|pg||
nt|wiki: tosi outo kääntö pv:n herttavärin läpi|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: still it looks a bit odd not to bid game on a combined 25 count|pg||
nt|xenya: i don't mind playing 2@H on 4-3|pg||
nt|kareno: I cut my teeth playing Moysian fits :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Okay, so with a little help from a spec, 60 F is about the same as 15 C|pg||
nt|kareno: But he made me do the work myself :)|pg||
nt|wiki: tietysti mun subjektiivinen mielipiteeni kunnioittaen muitakin vanhoja kavereitani|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt ei ole ongelmaa mutta pelinviejä varmaankin miettii miten suojautua 4-1 yläväriä vastaan|pg||
nt|wiki: pelinviejä ei tosin tunne oloaan kovin varmaksi juuri nyt|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
nt|bagman: Lindenin padat eivät vaan kasva; Mäkisen padat voivat kasvaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Pikkulähtö maksaa usein tikin|pg||
mb|p|nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|wiki: niin vois, mut ei se kuitenkaan ois|pg||
pc|dK|nt|xenya: vulnerable too|pg||
nt|daman: I have been told Neto is grandson|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tämänpäiväiset pelit on jaettu 8 jaon segmentteihin, jotka pelataan aina 2 segmenttiä peräkkäin, minkä jälkeen on tauko.|pg||
nt|bagman: Toinen yv saattaa istua vinossa tarjoussarjan valossa; nyt se vinossa oleva väri onkin ruutu|pg||
nt|wiki: ehkä ruutumaski yt niin pysyy jotenkin kontrolli|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaihtoehtoja on...|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä taitaa kaikki onnistua|pg||
nt|bagman: Kaikki onnistuu mutta veikkaan, ettei mikään kovin nopeasti|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos on 135 niin silloin pitää lähteä ysillä|pg||
nt|wiki: mut se toinen maistuu aina paremmalta|pg||
nt|wiki: paitsi zonipieti|pg||
nt|bagman: Yrittääköhän Järvinen vielä ylitikkiäkin :)|pg||
pc|d4|nt|davidstern: Can pitch one diamond and ruff one but has to lose a spade and a diamond|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ehkäpä heillä on muutos tässä kohtaa systeemiä|pg||
nt|wiki: kai 9 tai 10 ois ollut oikeampi|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt ei oikein voi kasvattaa ruutua, koska Koivisto pääsee pelaamaan kaksi kertaa ristiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos haluaa tarjota, 2@H voisi olla mahdollinen mutta sekin melko aggressiivinen zonissa|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä voi olla tulossa 11-15 IMP Uskalille|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: the normal agreement is thru 2 of responder's major|pg||
nt|ahh: not bad short hand gets ruff |pg||
nt|wiki: W on ongelmissa ja rististä kai se 0. nyt tulee|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|jrssd: but West lacked a singleton|pg||
nt|bagman: Sudsten toivoo huonoja sitsejä|pg||
nt|wiki: huolellisesti pöytään jotta pata entry säilyy - hyvä|pg||
nt|bagman: 543-välikorteilla|pg||
nt|wiki: mä en tarjoais kuin pakon edessä|pg||
pc|cA|nt|wiki: Hyvin tarjottu, kovahko slammi|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ristinaula oikeassa kädessä eli ei patakuppia|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|frankaus: sure but where is the up side?  - do we expect to make 4@H ?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: chance for an overtrick though|pg||
nt|cuttysark: East's hand has got worse as South kept bidding|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ahh: and 4 off it goes |pg||
nt|wiki: 9.|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|jrssd: which is so important when bidding vs a strong NT|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin käy se näinkin|pg||
nt|wiki: Pesosen patalähtö on normaali kun risti ei tarvitse olla kuin 2 korttia|pg||
nt|wiki: joten "mikset lähtenyt avausväriä" kommentit voi jättää (kuten aina muutenkin )|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|xenya: yes -- no hope at all|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundsten voi laskea jo -10 IMP |pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt peli menee kotiin, koska pata on 3-3|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalilla ei ole muuta vaihtoehtoa|pg||
nt|bagman: Aika ottaa tikit pois ja pelata W kiinni padalla|pg||
nt|wiki: mun näppäri hyppii vasemmalle :(|pg||
nt|bagman: @HJ|pg||
nt|bagman: Se paljastaa tilanteen aika hyvin|pg||
nt|wiki: jako alkaa olla selvä ainakin mulle|pg||
nt|bagman: Lähtökortti kertoi ristipituuden joten patapituus onkin laskettavissa|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: duh - sorry it was a @H lead|pg||
nt|wiki: no, ei vieläkään tyylipisteitä :(|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|hedyg: bidding in OR on bd 1 looks like a polish @c opening and 1@d reply, 1NT rebid showing balanced 12-14 and then W took off over his partners forced natural 2@d bid|pg||
nt|mmmakela: nyt pieti|pg||
nt|bagman: Hieno puolustus Leikolalta|pg||
nt|wiki: hmm  - kuva kuvalle....|pg||
nt|bagman: Estää ylitikin|pg||
nt|wiki: no ei vaineskaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristikääntö + kuva kuvalle|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkin olen hyvin kartalla jaon suhteen|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ady: might gain 6 imps or so|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisan sivuille|pg||
nt|wiki: kortti istuu todella hyvin - voi olla hyvinkin tasaprikka tai jopa voittoprikka|pg||
nt|bagman: Paitsi tämä eli hertta katoaa nyt ruudulle|pg||
nt|maribelxx: olisi kyllä saattanut tulla herttapeliinkin pieti|pg||
pc|sK|nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|mmmakela: sorry pata J|pg||
nt|wiki: ei kai|pg||
nt|bagman: ruutu pois on -3; ylikuppi -4|pg||
nt|bagman: sanoo GIB|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ahh: oops|pg||
nt|bagman: IMP kotiin|pg||
mc|10|nt|xenya: which team?|pg||
nt|bagman: Reverse dummykin käy|pg||
nt|bagman: Johtuukohan se siitä, että näen kaikki kortit?|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubbin pelinvienti on parempi kuin minun kaikki kortit nähneenä ehdottamani|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä voittaa patakäännön ässällä, ottaa herttasotamiehen sakaten ruudun ja pelaa loput padat|pg||
nt|wiki: onnistuu se näinkin - risti 10/9 lähdöllä ei ois onnistunut, kun nyt E ois kääntänyt sotilaan|pg||
nt|wiki: kuka toi GIB on?|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SAKQHAKQJT4D962CT,S953H3DKQT73CA976,SJ64H765DAJ84CKQJ,ST872H982D5C85432|sv|b|nt|capercliff: in 6@c you can ruff 2 @s in dummy, but where does the 4th @h go?|pg||
nt|col3435: you don't mind about the fourth heart, that's the only trick you lose|pg||
nt|mamos: 3n looks pretty straightforward|pg||
nt|eggy: I suppose a heart switch at T2 might have been more difficult|pg||
nt|yo_yo: for those who dont know,  the Bols royal distilleries used to run a "bridge tips" competition |pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: It is rarely a good idea to preempt when partner has a strong unlimited hand|pg||
nt|garnetts: I agree--which is why I only said might make 3NT|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|eggy: I think then that declarer would need to play diamonds himself before spades|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|capercliff: will be hard for David to stay out of slam here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 6NT will make but not 6 hearts|pg||
nt|mayors: some danger in NS getting too high, a 4@C auto splinter from south might help|pg||
nt|capercliff: 6NT Victor?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no diamond lead|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: also the fourth heart will not even be a loser more than half the time|pg||
nt|garnetts: another boring game contract here|pg||
nt|garnetts: even 4NT is safe|pg||
pc|dK|nt|capercliff: Jx|pg||
nt|capercliff: helps|pg||
nt|bobh1: Jxx would also help|pg||
nt|henryb: or even J|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes|pg||
nt|yo_yo: now a @D lead|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 4D auto splinter if he is bidding 6H|pg||
pc|dA|nt|garnetts: Intervening over a strong club is interesting---it works when the opps are not that good at remembering what to do--but too frequently guides the opps to 3NT--when they would have ...|pg||
nt|garnetts: found a suit contract harder |pg||
nt|ralfwil: You are quite right david! 4@s was down in the open room|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|nt|henryb: claim 9 and next|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h6|nt|capercliff: quick claim coming|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|garnetts: use it or lose it|pg||
nt|eggy: btw in their system, the2D-2H-"S sequence is either a strong or invitaional balanced hand|pg||
nt|eggy: 2S|pg||
nt|eggy: effectively the old style, mixed Baron hand|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|h7|nt|capercliff: or maybe not|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: nothing v quick at this table|pg||
nt|capercliff: easier than last set for you Margaret:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: far easier|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|capercliff: this is torture to let E think so long|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|bobh1: S can't really claim because he might be able to score a @h in the end position|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|bobh1: can't afford to be so cavalier about those overtricks|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I call 4D a Hoffman cue - Martin H has been doing that ever since I first noticed 40 years ago|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|eggy: other sequences after 2H would be routine transfer sequences|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg||
nt|ralfwil: Now E is squeezed|pg||
nt|mayors: 6@H not unreasonable. another day west might not be dealt such an obvious lead|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SJ642H84DKT43CT63,SAHAKT7D865CAK842,SQT3H9632DJ92CJ75,SK9875HQJ5DAQ7CQ9|sv|n|nt|fpg: M Lima is a good friend of mine and from my point of view a pretty good player|pg||
nt|davidstern: 3@D is even a struggle in this hand|pg||
nt|thegarve: might be in 4@H if playing 5 card majors|pg||
nt|ady: not really    have to lose 2 spade tricks  a heart ruff  and a diamond|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Clear clubs by crossing to @DA, then endplay South?|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Aikataulu löytyy myös liiton ilmoitustaululta ainakin parista paikasta...|pg||
nt|mmmakela: liian aikasta aamulla taas mulle|pg||
nt|wiki: :) niin itsekullekin|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta tehokasta!!|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jos luonnollisessa pelataann heikkoja hyppyjä omassa sarjassa, niin olisiko etelänkortit sopivia siihen?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: vai haittaako pataväri?|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei ole, koska väri on huono ja sivussa on 4k pata|pg||
nt|wiki: kyllä' se mullakin useammin on juuri päinvastoin|pg||
nt|bagman: Johto vaihtui?|pg||
nt|bagman: !|pg||
nt|wiki: sorry kibbs|pg||
nt|bagman: Arle on kaventanut taas|pg||
nt|wiki: uskali on siirtynyt mahtavaan 5-0 johtoon !|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt Koivisto-Puurtinen analysoi olisiko @C9 lähtö riittänyt :)|pg||
nt|wiki: mentiin halvimmalla taksalla - 3-5 haarukka just kesti|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Huomenta kaikille! :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Huomenta Lea|pg||
nt|wiki: jaahas, pikkujoulut loppuiovat, huomenta vaan!!!|pg||
nt|wiki: hei vahva risti ja positiivinen vastaus!!|pg||
nt|wiki: siinä saattoi 14 imppiä solahtaa|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: 4@S 10 or 11 here|pg||
nt|werge: A coffee board|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm told it was actually down 3.|pg||
nt|xenya: look, they did bid 4@H in OR and made it!|pg||
nt|werge: But against 620 in OR, it does´nt makker much|pg||
nt|wiki: ristikuppia ei löytynyt toisessakaan pöydässä ja 4 @S meni kotiin jaossa 19|pg||
mb|1N|nt|fpg: Pereira in W is the number 1 portuguese player|pg||
nt|daman: they play Polish Club in Portugal?  |pg||
nt|xenya: yes -- there may be other possibilities as well -- perhaps|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Anything can be done Double Dummy|pg||
nt|ady: cant see that      |pg||
nt|Walddk4: corrected in MOVIE|pg||
nt|bagman: Passannutta kättä vastaan 1NT voisi olla riittävästi|pg||
nt|wiki: d vai NT|pg||
nt|wiki: mä oisin sangin kannalla|pg||
nt|bagman: Riippuu sopimuksista ja filosofiasta :)|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä ei kukaan halua pelata miotään, kun näkee kortit|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Onkos täällä ollut jännittävää jo - vai nytkö se vasta alkaa?|pg||
nt|bagman: 1NT-2@H-3NT|pg||
nt|maribelxx: aktiivista peliä kyllä tarvitaan kun ollaan tappiolla, mutta ei ihan joka jaossa|pg||
nt|bagman: Riippuen vielä siitä kuka kahdentaa ja mitä|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: surely there is a heheart ruff      where is the end play?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I think it woks : win @HA, cash @DA, finesse club, ruff club, exit spade|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, indeed.  If n/s had any thoughts about saves, the vulnerability would deter them for sure.|pg||
nt|werge: matter|pg||
nt|werge: Sporty 3 @D|pg||
mb|2C|nt|wilkinsona: well Lima played confidently for +1... these imps can mount up in a close match|pg||
nt|jrssd: 4S can be beaten with a Diamond ruff, and it looks like a normal lead from both sides :)|pg||
nt|pelu: the 4-level is safe -NS and EW - so they sh go to 5-level!|pg||
nt|xenya: interesting 3@C...|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Must be Ghestem - 2 extreme suits?|pg||
nt|xenya: does it imply @Ss i wonder|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Bit pointless if it doesn't :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 2Nt = the red suits - 2@C= major, so 31C = @S+@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: yes it is Guestem @d + @s|pg||
nt|xenya: right|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Shoule be sensible at this vulnerability, so I think North should bid|pg||
nt|ady: 5 level look 1 too high for both sides|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: 2 @c natural 2 @d Majors|pg||
nt|wiki: slammia ei välttämättä tarjota toisessa huoneessa - vähän alle 50%|pg||
nt|wiki: onkls Wittgensteinilla joku bridge kirja??|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jos kahdentaisin, niin partneri vastaisi neljällä hertalla....|pg||
nt|bagman: Pystyykö Järvinen pysähtymään 2@D:uun|pg||
nt|wiki: eikun 18|pg||
nt|maribelxx: se pataosuma tosiaan voi olla ja hyppelemällä saattaa jäädä löytymättä|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkinen ei vieläkään ole löytänyt käännettyä korotusta|pg||
nt|kaapo: Kakkosjaon ansiosta. Siinä Roland huomasi mielenkiintoisen @D-tilanteen|pg||
nt|kaapo: Ja hetkeä myöhemmin kehui Heinzia hauskaksi veikoksi ja hyvin puheliaaksi :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Pesonen-Stubb oli muistaakseni neljäs ensimmäisessä seniorien MM-parikilpailussa kauan sitten; melkoinen saavutus!|pg||
nt|maribelxx: huippupositiivinen, lupaa 4 kontrollia|pg||
nt|wiki: kas kun Rami malttoi passata|pg||
nt|bagman: eli on se 15 kai mahdollinen|pg||
nt|bagman: tosin voi mennäikin 5 (4@Sx kotiin)|pg||
nt|wiki: on toki|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT saattaa mennä kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 NT olis kotiin menossa - miten sinne mennään, ihmettelee Honkavuori|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: 3N is quite safe|pg||
nt|jrssd: o sry, thot AC was with N :(|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tosin ei ehkä noilla korteilla, mitkä pohjoisella tällä kertaa on :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei näköjään|pg||
nt|wiki: EW voi pelata herttaa n. 9 tikkiä|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: on 20 - it looked as though declarer was supposed to cover with K@H to prevent @C shift -- but South wasn't up to saving the imp|pg||
nt|jrssd: brb|pg||
nt|thegarve: Polish club everywhere as they migrated around Europe|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Right - generally best to bid one more in these circumstances rather than risk a large swing|pg||
nt|xenya: very true|pg||
nt|werge: In this position, North could bid 3 @D - they never double with a sure @H-fit|pg||
nt|werge: Coffee-board in sight|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta on looginen|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä on taas ihan hyvä slammi. Menossa on vain hertta|pg||
nt|wiki: slammi ois hyvä|pg||
nt|bagman: Tukeeko Uskali heti ruutua vai tarjoaako hän pataa uudestaan?|pg||
nt|bagman: 3@H sarjassa, jossa voi olla slammi ei minusta ole kovin kuvaava|pg||
nt|bagman: 1@S = kolme kontrollia|pg||
nt|bagman: Eli AK tai KKK|pg||
nt|wiki: ei oikei kortit istu mukavasti tässä|pg||
nt|bagman: GIB on sellainen, jota raamakommentaattorin tulee käyttää tosi vähän|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubb, 3NT nyt|pg||
nt|maribelxx: 18-20 tasainen|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 ristiä näyttää hyvältä, mutta ei mene kotiin, Rami ei pelottanut hertalla onnekseen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: nyt oli edullista olla hiljaa|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: ok   didn't know that|pg||
nt|kareno: It's the hypermodern overpreempt.  I don't like it (though the suit is good, the hand has way too many losers).|pg||
nt|xenya: you do what you like at these colours|pg||
nt|kareno: No singleton diamond ace around.|pg||
nt|kareno: I don't - but I'm pretty old-fashioned.  2@d yes, 3@d no.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kysely kehiin vaan|pg||
mb|3C|nt|wilkinsona: some of the teams were using an 11-14 NT|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Works for both sides! Now we can double 6@C|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Or not|pg||
nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|ady: not  easy for north|pg||
nt|xenya: but S's pass was forcing, so N has to double|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Huomenta Pekka|pg||
nt|wiki: ok there are not so many finns here so we go on in en glish|pg||
nt|bagman: ok|pg||
nt|bagman: Ja nyt 3NT ja toivomus, ettei partnerilla ole 4k herttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä näyttää vaaralliselta|pg||
nt|wiki: herttatarjous ei juuri vie eteenpäin sarjaa, joten pataa tai ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: Partnerilla ei ole 4k herttaa ja väri on tosi surkea|pg||
nt|wiki: Heinz puhelias?? really!! :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Ja jos käyttää, pitää melkein sitten kertoa analyysin lähde|pg||
nt|wiki: zonissa ihan hyvä tarjottava slammi - herttamaski riittää|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: there are some players who would double 3@D as South, even opposite a passed hand and vulnerable to boot|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Or not :)|pg||
nt|xenya: well perhaps not strictly forcing in this sequence|pg||
nt|wiki: helposti sanoo Rami|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt sitten vain pitäis valita joku monista varianteista|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvinen ottaa tikin ässällä ja jatkaa pikkuhertan|pg||
mb|3N|nt|santyclz: Looks like a simple 3nt. |pg||
nt|ady: I suppose South tht 6@S might make if partner had good spades and nothing else|pg||
nt|wiki: pelaaks ne käännettyjä? Johan ei ainakaan mun kanssa pelaa (voi olla et syy on minun)|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin 5@D menee kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Sen verran taitaa istua, että 3NT järjestyy|pg||
nt|bagman: Ellei puolustus keksi pataa|pg||
nt|bagman: Pesonen sai 80-luvulla EM-kilpailujen parhaan pelinviennin palkinnon|pg||
nt|maribelxx: täytyyhän sitä nyt vähän harkita|pg||
nt|wiki: ei kovin jännittävä alku Lean päivälle|pg||
nt|bagman: Mikään ei istu kamalan huonosti joten tikkejä taitaa tulla 10|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: 2nt must be a limit raise or better otherwise east has a 4 @H rebid |pg||
nt|kareno: Whatever sort of conventional use of 1nt, apparently 3@h shows a minimum (or a non-opening bid :) )|pg||
nt|daman: another game contract|pg||
nt|sybarra: and "routine"  |pg||
nt|kareno: Declarer should cross to the diamond in dummy and play a club down.|pg||
nt|bagman: yksi vajaa|pg||
nt|wiki: jaossa 2 on ns heinzinm maski ruudussa eli 10x vastaan Qxx jolloin selviää ilman tikin menetyksiä maskaamalla väärinpäin|pg||
nt|bagman: SM-joukkuevoittoja parilla on ainakin 6|pg||
nt|wiki: suosin kyllä itse 1 @H tarjousta noilla korteilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tällä lähdöllä voi tulla vain 9. Pelinviejä ottaa kuninkaan ja pelaa AKx ruutua|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jännittävä alku oli, pysyykö yhteyteni yhtään päällä....|pg||
nt|wiki: joo, W on myös aika turvallinen veikko, jos omistaa ruuturouvan|pg||
nt|maribelxx: paitsi kyselyn etelä olisi voinut tarjota värinsäkin|pg||
nt|wiki: ei ole kaitsulla lisättävää voimaan, mutta 54 joskus toimii aika hyvin slammissa|pg||
mb|4N|nt|wiki: Morjens Pekka|pg||
nt|bagman: Huomenta kaikille|pg||
nt|bagman: Jaossa on melkoisen selkeät 5 menevää|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkinen's @D-guard isn't very robust but it is enough |pg||
nt|wiki: jos 4 @C ois ollut cue ruutuvalttina niin...|pg||
nt|bagman: tasabrikka on kuitenkin tulossa|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenilla ei ole mitään syytä olla ottamatta 12 tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: en katsonut GIBistä|pg||
nt|bagman: Et olisi saanut @H-lähtöä|pg||
nt|bagman: Mitä tekee Rimon? (Varmaankin pelaa ison ja ottaa tikin)|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: now that their economy is stronger they are returning home from the UK|pg||
nt|daman: this will not succeed|pg||
nt|ady: well done North|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Hard to know who was bidding to make - but I think I would double as South with my minimum distribution and good controls|pg||
nt|kareno: Not a coffee hand any longer, Roland.|pg||
nt|frankaus: oops to high |pg||
nt|werge: Now they ar playing with the fire...|pg||
nt|ahh: over 2nt game forcing 4 @H shows a minimum opener  normally to keep all the space available on slam hands for cue bidding |pg||
nt|kareno: So then 3@h was a misbid?|pg||
nt|ahh: obviously they are not in sync  here |pg||
nt|werge: Like 1 @H...|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaatii aika paljon puolustukselta, että tämä menisi kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä menee 6@D kotiin, jos arvaa kaiken :)|pg||
nt|wiki: piti antaa kun Belladonna pelasi toisessa pöydässä saman jaon huonommin:)|pg||
nt|wiki: mut hyvin tehty ja pääsi  Kelseyn kirjaan|pg||
nt|wiki: Q|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: but shd be a push|pg||
nt|mmmakela: tere P|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Huomenta Pekka|pg||
nt|maribelxx: jos käännettyjä alavärikorotuksia ei ole, niin lännen on keksittävä joku tarjous|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 @H on mielenkiintoisempi, Charlie puhkuu : ei sull voi olla tollaiset|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä taas on tiukka sitoumus. Voi mennäkin kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: patalähtö on paha mut epätod näk|pg||
nt|bagman: joka voi olla hankalaa tässä sarjassa |pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: diamond found, but looks a make all the same|pg||
nt|fpg: yes|pg||
nt|daman: they might have time to hold it to 4 on a @S lead|pg||
nt|wiki: vaan ruudun :)|pg||
nt|bagman: ok|pg||
nt|bagman: totta|pg||
nt|bagman: @CA ja @CJ kiertää seuraavaksi|pg||
nt|bagman: ruutu pois pöydästä|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Alpo Järvinen ja Jouko Paganuskin olivat mukana pelaamassa turkulaisten ohella ja kehittämässä Einaria systeeminä|pg||
nt|wiki: ja sitten kai pataa rouvalle|pg||
nt|bagman: Niin peli varmaan etenee|pg||
nt|bagman: Patakuninkaan jälkeen järvinen jatkaa taas pikkuhertan|pg||
pc|d3|nt|bagman: His heart suit was quite short also|pg||
nt|wiki: onneksi oli hertta plokissa noin Arlen kannalta, vaikka tuskin Leikola löysi @H A kähtöä|pg||
nt|bagman: @DJ|pg||
nt|wiki: @DJ|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kun oli sellainen jaettu - ja lisäksi päästään luonnolliseen jatkoon, jolloin ei ole vaaraa systeemin unohtamisista|pg||
nt|wiki: eiks ne kuus ekaa olleet Aldo,Mäkelän Mara, Liukkonen ja Seepi Laine ja Jussi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Innostuineita olivat - ja työn tulos näkyy: maajoukkuepaikka kiinnostaa seniorinakin|pg||
nt|wiki: Liukkonen on siis Mauri Lindgren|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kyllä vaan|pg||
nt|maribelxx: mutta kun paljon pelattiin, niin kokoonpanotkin ehtivät vaihtua|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvinen kierrätti aika paljon partnereita|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Paganus-Uskali oli välillä mukana|pg||
nt|wiki: tää on niitä hetkiä kun Ramin verenpaine nousee|pg||
pc|d5|nt|davidstern: I would NV but dont think so Vul|pg||
nt|xenya: he will live to regret it though -- or rather his partner|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kun 1-yli-1 on vaatimus, niin herttatarjous on mahdollinen|pg||
nt|bagman: Menossahan ei ole kuin ristiässä ja pari valttia|pg||
nt|bagman: Sen jälkeen pelinviejä kasvattaa ristin|pg||
nt|bagman: Ellei pataa tule ajoissa, peli menee kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: Mäkinen saa yhden mahdollisuuden tietäen AK ruutua Manolle|pg||
nt|bagman: Paras linja lienee se, että pelinviejä ottaa ristimaskin ja pelaa pikkuristin|pg||
nt|wiki: ei siis voi olla kuin pata, joka pukittaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Niinpä|pg||
nt|bagman: Niinpä. Rimon käy läpi vaihtoehtoja|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fpg: its time to say next lol|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ei oo ihan laydown|pg||
nt|wiki: Uskali taistelee hyvin - 3 pataa on onnekkaasti kotona, tämä on halpaa ilman bangia|pg||
nt|wiki: ei sitä juuri koskaan kukaan käytä ellei ole selviä tarjoussarjan perusteella että Q on tietyllä henkilöllä|pg||
nt|bagman: 10 oli kiva kortti, koska nyt ruudusta tulee 4 tikkiä varmasti|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: here's a situation where partnership agreement can be very useful --- with agreement 1@C-1@D;1@S guarantees 4+@C - some even say unbal|pg||
nt|caitlin: 10 tricks off top|pg||
nt|werge: When you are allready too high - this is OKAY|pg||
nt|ahh: i open 1@H even if it has 8 losers   but i then show a minimum every bid thereafter |pg||
nt|kareno: Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb :)|pg||
nt|kareno: NDNT I say :)|pg||
nt|wiki: @Cs 2-2 this goes very fast|pg||
nt|bagman: Kuppi, valtilla käteen ja kuppi sekä herttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt DA|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|werge: Give med the @H 10-9 - and the hand is an opening bid|pg||
nt|kareno: No double no trouble :)|pg||
nt|wiki: joo, tuskin Arle antaa ruutupituutta Jlla|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ai kun partneri on pelinviejä ja miettii?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|wilkinsona: board 17 OR north went -1 in 2 spades when he failed to throw a club on heart jack|pg||
nt|pelu: whre will EW be if bidding strated: 1@D - 1@S - D - 2@S?|pg||
nt|thegarve: won't be able to sneak this home|pg||
nt|bagman: Jukka toivoo, että välissä olisi Qxxx|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 kertaa hertta ja pitäis olla ok|pg||
nt|maribelxx: käsi on liian vahva esim suoraan hyppyyn 3 sangiin|pg||
nt|wiki: no ny se sit peitti:)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|wiki: enemmän DD juttuja|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristikin kestää kerran läpilyönnin|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|kareno: Not for me.  |pg||
nt|sybarra: club lead also |pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.quintonaipe.com/fed08/norte/eqopen.html  is the link to results and standings after round 5. First 4 in both groups will qualify for the finals in mid January|pg||
nt|maribelxx: just drop the ace of hearts|pg||
nt|bagman: I wonder why Mäkinen did not try inverted raise?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|werge: Duck smoothly the first trick - and you might see North duck two dismaonds - and 3 NT is close|pg||
nt|bagman: Ja varmaan ristit otetaan ennen kuin ne lentävät padalle|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pikkuristi|pg||
nt|wiki: oisko bridge for the Conoisseur|pg||
nt|wiki: juuu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: arvasin :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Ja taas alkaa miettiminen|pg||
nt|wiki: Hyvä Ranan - anna mennä|pg||
nt|bagman: sitten se pikkupata|pg||
pc|cT|nt|xenya: i would not double as S at any vulnerability|pg||
nt|kaapo: Tai BB|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: can't go wrong in @S suit for the uptrick|pg||
nt|thegarve: are they playing SmithPeters or Reverse Smith?|pg||
nt|wiki: näissä riittää jälkipelejä sitten "tarjottiin hyvä slammi,mut"|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|mdgraham: nor me, as a paid-up chicken |pg||
nt|werge: Only double-dummy kan hold declarer to 10 tricks!|pg||
nt|wiki: probably @S finesse because it can give one trick more|pg||
nt|maribelxx: important in teams?|pg||
nt|bagman: If the finesse works, he can set up the hearts then for 12 tricks|pg||
nt|wiki: sorry, täällä mennään 3 sangia ja hertta ei koskaan ees löytynyt|pg||
nt|wiki: ristilähtö ei saanut Jukkaa surulliseksi, ois ehkä voinut laistaakin, kun avaus lupaa 4|pg||
nt|wiki: en löydä kuin 8 tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt ei kyllä ole sitäkään, ristin laisto ois anatnut edes 4 tikkiä ristiä|pg||
nt|wiki: @H entreetkin on tuhottu :(|pg||
nt|bagman: Mielenkiintoinen pelinvienti. Itse en olisi vielä ruutuun koskenut vaan käynyt ristin kimppuun|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä ei ole ihan saletissa, koska risti voisi olla AJ9x vs Kxx|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahh: seen an awful lot of ace underleads today |pg||
nt|wiki: Niin kyllä mullakin kun pelaan Rananin kanssa|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|daman: they did it|pg||
nt|bagman: Paganus voi pelata tähänkin vielä pienen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: true|pg||
nt|bagman: Overtricks are important|pg||
pc|s5|nt|xenya: just doesn't make sense to me|pg||
nt|wiki: yes - 48 deals   !! 48x1 =48|pg||
nt|bagman: Pesonen, Stubb ja Uskali pelasivat PM-joukkueessa 1982, kun kisat olivat Hanasaaressa|pg||
nt|wiki: vielä ok, jos arvaa padan |pg||
nt|wiki: tarkoitan siis tätä mietintä vaihetta - ei muuten|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|werge: diamonds...|pg||
nt|bagman: One should first guarantee the contract and then go for the maximum|pg||
nt|wiki: ja seuraava|pg||
nt|bagman: Noilla hakuilla ei voi pudota mitään sellaista, jotta ässä olisi oikein|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt voi kasvattaa ruudunkin tietysti|pg||
mc|13|nt|santyclz: Which has several advantages, but prevents you from being able to play 2 of a minor.  Most think the sacrafice is worth it.|pg||
nt|bagman: Johan olisi ollut parempi olla kiinni|pg||
nt|bagman: Siis Linden|pg||
nt|wiki: yes, pikkuristi ois vaikeuttanut puolustusta|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt tosin pieti taisi mennä ristille|pg||
nt|wiki: pata 8 tekee saman|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3SJ642H84DKT43CT63,SAHAKT7D865CAK842,SQT3H9632DJ92CJ75,SK9875HQJ5DAQ7CQ9|sv|n|nt|capercliff: they need every imp they can get i suppose|pg||
mb|p|nt|garnetts: 6@S on PRC here|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|capercliff: running out of boards|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|garnetts: 1NT is obvious but absolutely horrible---no tenaces  etc|pg||
nt|ralfwil: The only problem is to solv the @s when @sj falls|pg||
nt|garnetts: Yes but the finesse becomes marked when the J@S fall--at least it is with the odds to finesse|pg||
nt|ralfwil: I don´t know the percentage to top or finess|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bobh1: 4 of either major is cold but rather fluky|pg||
mb|p|nt|bobh1: 3n is normal|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: what's the twins NT?|pg||
nt|col3435: they play a 14-16 NT, IIRC, so West won't be stopping any time soon|pg||
nt|col3435: even opposite 12-14 you'd probably keep going over 3NT|pg||
nt|mayors: 6@H, 6@C and 6NT all have good play|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but what should East bid now?|pg||
nt|col3435: 4NT, I guess?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do we all like the NT opening with a 5 card major?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5NT??? what would that mean???|pg||
nt|col3435: his hand could hardly be worse|pg||
nt|mayors: 4NT he has no fit and a minimum|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 6@H better than 6NT, can ruff a @C|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4@s?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: it could be- SQ instead of CQ -DJ instead of Heart jack-KQJ of diamonds instead of AQ|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|col3435: 28 boards left, aren't there? that's plenty of time|pg||
nt|garnetts: I take little interest in the maths I am afraid but I know the position well|pg||
nt|ralfwil: The rule of limited choise|pg||
nt|eggy: finesses is hugely better|pg||
nt|garnetts: I agree Steve---odds change constantly as play progresses--initially there are apriori odds then constant change |pg||
nt|garnetts: This slam was bid and made in the OR|pg||
nt|mayors: 5NT would probably invite west to pick a slam in the modern style|pg||
mb|5N|nt|bobh1: not if they're all like this one|pg||
nt|col3435: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mayors: now west is inviting east to pick|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 6NT now or 6H with the Jack|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I like 6H|pg||
nt|capercliff: has West really patterned his hand out?|pg||
nt|col3435: I doubt it, it looks like he's just shows 5@c-4@h|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the Jack is usually the key for pick-a-sla auctions|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: deep sigh from Stuart|pg||
nt|capercliff: how has he shown 5@c?|pg||
nt|mayors: I imagine 3@C showed 5|pg||
nt|col3435: I think 3@c shows that|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eggy: and likely to be here I should thik|pg||
mb|p|nt|garnetts: Personally I think West should have just bid it|pg||
nt|eggy: How many efforst did West need to make?|pg||
nt|col3435: and even if 3@c could be 4-4, I don't think you'd continue with 4@h in that case|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I thought 3C showed 5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well judged to best spot|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 3@c shows 4@hs apparently|pg||
nt|mayors: This is a pretty good spot. well bid|pg||
pc|d9|nt|yo_yo: the Hacketts stopped in 4NT  i see|pg||
nt|yo_yo: dont they play 14-16 too?|pg||
nt|mayors: Yes their NT range is also nominally 14-16 but they play more like 13-15 so west was more cautious!|pg||
nt|capercliff: not many losers, but can declarer count 12 tricks?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|mayors: just has to ruff a @c which he can do with a @h honour|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|garnetts: interesting apportion the blame theme|pg||
pc|s2|nt|capercliff: @c being 3-3 will certainly help|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|nt|eggy: Of course it may be that East had shown some encouragement - anyone know?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|garnetts: He should not finesse now--wants it to be wrong|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg||
mc|12|nt|odysseus69: they do- and opposite a quantitative raise East reasonably passed- West was a shade conservative but they upgrade lots of 13s|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4SAJ6HK6DAJT932C98,SQ742HJ74DKQ8CJT2,ST8H832D7654CA765,SK953HAQT95DCKQ43|sv|e|nt|davidstern: Because there are many hands where partner will be stuck for a bid with medium diamond length or even a penalty double|pg||
nt|ady: still trying to see how 4@S could possibly make on board 20 Liz?|pg||
nt|kareno: I don't see the point of the underlead frankly.|pg||
nt|ahh: no it would have been great to see single @C king in dummy |pg||
nt|werge: Nice @H-contract here |pg||
nt|kareno: The other side to this auction is that west had only two diamonds for his 3nt bid ... not enough unless they play disciplined preempts which they obviously do not.|pg||
nt|wiki: Se on siinä kenraalin maatalon vieressä Kakskerrassa|pg||
nt|bagman: Tästä ottelusta saattaa tulla hyvinkin tiukka joten jokainen tikki voi ratkaista|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ehkä jos Helsingistä tulet|pg||
nt|wiki: siis mr Adolf|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvin tehty, vaikka ei kovin paha arvata, mistä tikkejä voi tulla|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tasaisissa merkeissä tämä segmentti|pg||
nt|bagman: Niinpä. Aina näissä voi jotain mennä pieleen|pg||
nt|bagman: Taas muuten rikottiin Burnin lakia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Onkos Lindenillä jokin avaus?|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundsten voisi levittää; ei Niemellä voi olla QJ-kuudetta pataa|pg||
nt|wiki: meille on suotu hauskan näköisiä jakautumia|pg||
nt|bagman: Taitaa mennä 1@C-3@D-p-p-3NT|pg||
nt|wiki: no yhteistyössä saivat pesoselle 9 tikkiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei ihan viimeisen päälle tarkkaa peliä ylitikistä...|pg||
nt|wiki: asparagus kerää vitosia hissuksiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Asparagus on lisännyt johtoaan|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: does it seem that there have been way more 5521 hands today than normal a priori probability?  |pg||
nt|wilkinsona: hare NS appear to have 9 tricks in NT...|pg||
nt|davidstern: 5@D looks k here till you see the @D beak|pg||
nt|bagman: Has Puurtinen some gadget to open this?|pg||
nt|bagman: 2NT?|pg||
nt|wiki: jos ne pelaa käännettyjäniin ens kerralla charlie mäkinen jo uskonee|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämän segmentin jälkeen Mäkinen Linden varmaan pelaa jo käännettyjä|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttalähdöllä tulee aika monta pietiä...|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali pääsi peliin mukaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Sinappi-ketsuppi taas|pg||
nt|bagman: eli vinot jaot ilman fittiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Näkemiin vähäksi aikaa; palaan joko segmentin loppuun tai seuraavalle segmentille|pg||
nt|maribelxx: äskeisen suhteen voi pitää positiivista mielialaa yllä ajattelemalla, että ehkäpä toinen pöytä tarjoaa sen slammin|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
mb|2D|nt|davidstern: break|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Have you a further suggestsion?|pg||
nt|ady: me?|pg||
nt|ahh: will @H even get bid after that start |pg||
nt|werge: Be careful now - Eaast has the hand for opening 1@D|pg||
nt|frankaus: no easy spots on this 1|pg||
mb|2H|nt|cuttysark: Was flat - East opened 1NT, which was passed out - must have been weak|pg||
nt|werge: - and we still dream of a slam...|pg||
nt|wiki: 4 hertta löytynee helposti eikä pelinvientikään ole hankala|pg||
nt|bagman: They go only -500 in 5@Cx|pg||
nt|wiki: EW 4 @S ok 4 @Hs difficult NS maybe bid 5@C (500)|pg||
nt|bagman: EW can make 4M but not 5M on a diamond lead; EW can make 5@S with club lead|pg||
nt|bagman: Kolme ensimmäistä miinusmerkintää saattaa tehdä myrkkyä psyykelle|pg||
nt|bagman: Erityisesti tiukassa pudotuspelissä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ovatko Pesonen-Stubb vaihtaneet systeemiä?|pg||
nt|wiki: jaon 4 4 herttaa jäi tarjoamatta joten uskali 15-0, mut äsken tais asparagus avata tilinsä|pg||
nt|bagman: Jaossa järjestyy 5@D NS:lle|pg||
nt|bagman: Hertta voidaan sakata padalle ja ristiässä on oikein|pg||
nt|bagman: Termi tuli tutuksi PM 1996|pg||
nt|bagman: Piti nostaa lihapiirakka kepin nokassa screenin yli niin partneri olisi saanut varoituksen|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä sentään löytyy fitti yhteen väriin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ok nähdään|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ja kiitos|pg||
nt|wiki: moi|pg||
mb|3D|nt|wilkinsona: perhaps north could x for a lead?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he should|pg||
nt|ahh: 2@D 3@D 3@S 3nt ?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|caitlin: yes:)|pg||
nt|daman: this dream is a reality|pg||
nt|werge: But this one is no good|pg||
nt|daman: only makes 6|pg||
nt|wiki: 1 @H neg|pg||
nt|wiki: onks se 0-6|pg||
nt|bagman: Montako herttaa Leikola tarjoaa?|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos sitten yhtään|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ei kovin montaa täyspeliä 3-3 valtilla mene kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Mitä avaus lupasi? @S + toinen vai @S/@C tai @D/@H?|pg||
nt|wiki: no ei - 4-2 on normaalimpi :)|pg||
nt|wiki: Johan on puolalaisten ystävä, mutta en tiedä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sitä paitsi niitä pelatessa tulee hikikin...|pg||
nt|wiki: rauhallinen ruutu|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt ei pelata 3 sangia|pg||
nt|bagman: NS:llä on korteissa 5@D vaikka tulisikin patakuppi|pg||
nt|wiki: risti voi olla 2|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT on aika toivoton|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta helppo pelata|pg||
nt|wiki: oisin kyllä hertan tarjonnut etelänä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: onhan niitä sentään kuusi|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt on viimeinen hetki|pg||
mb|p|nt|cuttysark: I was happy with my line :)|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 3 lienee oikein|pg||
nt|wiki: no oisin tarjonnut viidelläkin jos se punainen ois siirtynyt ruuduksi|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: favorable vulnerability doesnt excuse all|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: bidding livening up now|pg||
nt|hedyg: who was complaining about lack of agressivity?|pg||
nt|ahh: undo|pg||
nt|kareno: What could 2NT be?  It's a waste of space.  |pg||
nt|werge: Should we say 33,8 %...|pg||
nt|bagman: vai 0-5?|pg||
nt|bagman: 1@D taitaa olla 6+ ja 0-2 kontrollia|pg||
nt|bagman: ainakin joskus oli (muistaakseni)|pg||
nt|bagman: eli tekeekö cuen|pg||
nt|bagman: Tarjoaako Sundsten 3NT?|pg||
nt|wiki: manolla kiiluu 3 NT silmissä|pg||
nt|wiki: vai 5 @C|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt on taas aika ikävän näköinen jako, ei oikein mitään mihin tarttua|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvinen ei haluaisi passata|pg||
nt|bagman: mutta ei halua kolmen tasollekaan|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: may be some work in the likely 3N|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: time to support partner|pg||
nt|cuttysark: North will be happy with this dummy - not too much, not too little - just right :)|pg||
nt|wiki: mull ois alkuperäinen einari, mut se ei ole ihan voimassa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kyllä vaan, mutta huonoilla kuudella pinnalla voi vastata negatiivisesti....ja jotkut ovat nostaneet rajaa niin, että positiivnen alkaa 7 pisteestä|pg||
nt|bagman: This is also OK|pg||
pc|dA|nt|daman: a real good Roland slam|pg||
nt|maribelxx: en tiedä heidän versiotaan ihan tarkkaan|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pitää osata pelata pieni ja sitten laistaa 1. tai 2. kierros|pg||
nt|mmmakela: jonka tietty N nostaa|pg||
nt|bagman: 10 tricks with diamond lead|pg||
nt|wiki: Koivisto  is a bit lazy knowing partner with minors|pg||
nt|wiki: of course Puurtinen normally is much weaker|pg||
nt|bagman: Onko 3@D nyt pysäytys?|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali ei halunnut testata systeemiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Niin, se juuri; ennen he pelasivat 3k alavärejä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: pelivoima tuntuisi vahvistuvan kun alavärejä tarjottu|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: specs - notice East's 1@S,  the normal agreement for 1@C-(1@D)-Negative DBL = 4@H & 4@S|pg||
nt|frankaus: ? lead @S 4 me|pg||
nt|ahh: all it does is to wrong side 3nt on loads of hands |pg||
nt|daman: normally he is around 12.87%|pg||
nt|sybarra: if that good!|pg||
nt|werge: You know him, it seams|pg||
nt|daman: just his reputation|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 12.89%, you are far off, George|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: long think by Magalhães|pg||
nt|daman: I think West will bail out     not enough controls for slam|pg||
nt|kareno: I would surely raise with the north hand at this point.|pg||
nt|wiki: kirjassa näillä tarjotaan 3 @H|pg||
nt|bagman: 7 tikkiä on tulossa ristilähdöllä|pg||
nt|wiki: luulisin|pg||
nt|bagman: 3@D saattoi olla tpv|pg||
nt|bagman: muuten 3NT on turhan aggressiivinen|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 @D taitaa mennä|pg||
nt|bagman: Pass oli nyt hyvä valinta|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: then again, some might just pass with East garbage :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Luis Oliveira|pg||
nt|bagman: Linden would like to duck this as he knows that it's from AJTxx but he cannot because of the clubs|pg||
nt|bagman: Kotipeli, jos arvaa padan|pg||
nt|bagman: Pysähtyykö kone 4 ristiin?|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt piti manon malttaa passata|pg||
nt|bagman: Niin piti|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto olisi voinut minusta kahdentaa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: yleensä luulisi että tähän jäädään.... muttta|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt EW pelaa kyllä mulle jotain outoa systeemiä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: etelä balansoi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: löytyisiköhän 4-3 yläväri?|pg||
nt|wiki: vai ruutu?|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejän on helpompi pelaata|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|apocalipse: hi all|pg||
nt|ahh: thats why i hate 2nt as a double negative in old fashioned acol |pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: lead for the wrong side|pg||
nt|kareno: 2NT apparently shows 2 kings.  A big chomp of useful bidding space.|pg||
nt|ahh: 1 of the reasons we play transfers is to keep the strong hand hidden   if that is right for 15-17 hands it must be even more right   for 23+ hands |pg||
nt|kareno: I think you stay out of the way of partner's prepared auctions unless you have a good reason to bid beyond the minimum level.  A very good suit (KQxxx or better) is a good reason.  ...|pg||
nt|kareno: Two kings is not.|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: the lead was out of turn and dummy hit the table|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamonds are friendly so this will come home without problems.|pg||
nt|ahh: north has a problem  he cant lead  @D or @S  he cant lead from an ace or jack   this board will never be played |pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: the courtaqin opened|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: the lead was 5@c|pg||
nt|kareno: Out of turn?|pg||
nt|ahh: nice 1  opps have right sided the contract :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, out of turn.|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: yes, out of turn|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: dummy went to the table and the courtain was opened|pg||
nt|kareno: Well, happily for n/s it makes very little difference.|pg||
nt|kareno: So dummy made the choice to allow the strong hand to declare.|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: Cruzeiro was still thinking wen saw the new dummy|pg||
nt|kareno: When the opening lead is out of turn, there are choices.  |pg||
nt|kareno: First choice is to the player who would have been declarer.  He can put down his hand and be dummy.|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: no choices because no lead was made from the right side|pg||
nt|ahh: 1 bit of advice was if they dont know who is on lead they dont know what to lead so always accept leads out of turn |pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: and declarer saw dummy|pg||
nt|kareno: Next the actual declarer can refuse the lead which becomes a major penalty card.|pg||
nt|bagman: maybe he can :)|pg||
nt|bagman: well done|pg||
nt|bagman: If S continues diamonds Linden survives a 4-1 spade split|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Puurtinen doesn't know what partner has in clubs (or diamonds for that matter)|pg||
nt|bagman: And he loses only the 10th trick if Puurtinen continues clubs |pg||
nt|bagman: assuming 3-2 spades|pg||
nt|wiki: @D2 for 2 @Ds - maybe @C shift now|pg||
nt|maribelxx: 3|pg||
nt|wiki: sry @D 3  but 2 @D anyway|pg||
nt|maribelxx: he had 63 in @D originally, but small showed even number presumably two in this case|pg||
nt|wiki: and not K or Q|pg||
nt|bagman: North would have played an honour if he had one|pg||
nt|maribelxx: with an honour partner would have played it on the first round, right?|pg||
nt|wiki: yes|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei tule välttämättä patalähtöä|pg||
pc|hA|nt|wilkinsona: well judged it seems|pg||
nt|xenya: 3N is ok|pg||
nt|davidstern: Yep perfecto|pg||
nt|davidstern: as long as you play the diamonds properly|pg||
nt|daman: after 4@D     5@H denies @S K or Q|pg||
nt|bagman: Hänellä on 3 puolustustikkiä ja vain 3k hertta|pg||
nt|wiki: kovasti on Manolla haku päällä|pg||
nt|bagman: Patalähdöllä pelinviejälle käy aika hyvin tässä|pg||
pc|h6|nt|davidstern: And win a club led with the queen|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ..same trick he played a couple of hands ago|pg||
nt|thegarve: could not double 3@s and now bids 5@s on a 3433 hand|pg||
nt|ahh: this is great  north s tactics worked  :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Then declarer can accept the lead and see the dummy before he plays.|pg||
nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|sybarra: see....commentators curse |pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenilla ei ole mitään lisää|pg||
nt|wiki: Niemellä ois mun mielestäni ollut|pg||
nt|bagman: EI vaan kuulu Uskalin tyyliin|pg||
nt|bagman: Kahdennuksella on iso merkitys, jos sitoumukseen tulee 2 pietiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ja herttalähdölläkin hertta on blokissa|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta  tämä järjestyy|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wilkinsona: club lead after the stayman|pg||
nt|jrssd: Hi Luis|pg||
nt|frankaus: if i lead from Jxxx, i was dealt jxxx in al 4 suits LOL|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: lost my bet on 18 I see when E opened only 3 spades|pg||
nt|hedyg: can get away for -3 and a good score|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: cut down the ruffs in dummy with the lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|ady: will be happy K@S is wrong|pg||
nt|kareno: Or he can require or forbid the lead of that suit.|pg||
nt|daman: he will get rewarded for his optimism|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelaako Sundsten DA+ruutua rouvalle vai suoraan ruutua rouvalle?|pg||
nt|bagman: Niemi oli aika vaisu|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|mmmakela: interesting sakaus|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenin piti mielestäni pelata pieni, koska hän ei oiekastaan voi voittaa mitään pelaamalla isoa|pg||
nt|bagman: wd everyone|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ei Uskalia pelota tarjota kolmen kortin väriäkään, tällä kertaa kuitenkin tuli se ruututarjous|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä on jäljellä hertta-arvaus|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta kumpikaan etelä ei ole lukenut sitä Koposen kirjaa|pg||
nt|wiki: so Puurtinen gets the message without seeing all the cards :)|pg||
nt|wiki: no hän teki sen jo kerran ja kävi hyvin, ehkä arveli että ei kahdesti|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt vielä pitäisi jostain saada se 8. tikki|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaan ei taida oikein tulla mistään|pg||
nt|wiki: nojaa - Puhkun välitarjoukset eivät aina ole noin hyviä eikä 3 @H ehkä ole kiva|pg||
nt|wiki: tosin herttalähdöllä pitää ottaa eka ettei pääse sakamaan ristille blockkaavaa herttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: NS selvisi pulasta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: näin kävi|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttalähtö olisi ollut nyt onnistuneempi|pg||
pc|hK|nt|wilkinsona: Hi Luis|pg||
nt|werge: This lead shows values - then the @D Q is by North...|pg||
nt|kaapo: Jos eilisten pudotuspelien tulokset vielä kiinnostavat, ne löytyvät tuolta: http://www.bridgefinland.com/trials/index.php|pg||
nt|bagman: Asparagus on hivuttautunut johtoon kahdella isohkolla swingillä|pg||
nt|wiki: no ei ne kamalassa pulassa olleet, mutta saivat EW:n ongelmiin|pg||
pc|h7|nt|daman: can have @S K but then no @C Ace|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt sitten sakauksen perusteella ruutua ysille :)|pg||
nt|wiki: N ei oikein tiedä mitä haluaa |pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei siis kumpaakaan|pg||
pc|c9|nt|maribelxx: yrittää houkutella puolustusta pelaamaan pataa|pg||
nt|wiki: herttapito on tosi laiha, 3 @S ois ehkä ollut sitten parempi valinta|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|maribelxx: Nyt on tämän segmentin viimeinen jako menossa tässä pöydässä (yhteysongelmien vuoksi jaon 15 4@SN=puuttuu moviesta)|pg||
nt|wiki: matti on ollut varovainen muutenkin tänään|pg||
nt|wiki: siis matti koivisto|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt on aika ottaa ristitikki pois|pg||
nt|bagman: Muuten Koiviston päätös passata osoittatuu hyvin oikeaksi|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttakääntö tulossa ja sen jälkeen seuraa levitys|pg||
nt|wiki: ristit saa heitetyyä padoille, jote oisko 10|pg||
nt|bagman: @CK :)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|mmmakela: mitähän se sillä yritti kertoa?|pg||
nt|bagman: Nice duck by Linden to improve his chances to make the contract; now he lost the overtrick but that's a good trade-off|pg||
nt|bagman: Tarjoussarjasta voisin todeta sen verran, että jos Sundstenin korteilla pitää tarjota, paras paikka on yhden ruudun kohdalla|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt voi vaihtua IMPpi|pg||
nt|wiki: itase oon kyllä 3 ruudun kannalla heti vahvaan ristiin|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mdgraham: it's a bit early for Guinness|pg||
nt|wiki: ei oikein näin näy,|pg||
nt|wiki: joskus voi ristikin vuotaa|pg||
nt|bagman: "balansointi" yhtä sangia vastaan on usein melkoisen riskialtista puuhaa|pg||
pc|c4|nt|bagman: Järvinen tykkää maskata...|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ja gyllä|pg||
nt|bagman: Crocodile coup :) Mäkinen nielaisi Lindenin sotamiehen|pg||
nt|bagman: brb|pg||
nt|wiki: loput suimii sundsten|pg||
nt|wiki: ois toki helpompi pelata ristiä jos ois D|pg||
pc|c8|nt|wiki: avoimessa on tapahtunut varsinainen merkkausvirhe EW:lle|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|wiki: varmaan toivoi, että partneri näkisi kumpaa yläväriä pitäis kääntää|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä tuskin enää pelaa loppupeliä vaan levittää|pg||
nt|wiki: kohta joutuu itse padalle, ja toivoo että @D on 2-1|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|daman: have we yet to find out who is sitting east?|pg||
nt|hedyg: start on @cs now|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristikympillä sai ekan tikin; saisikohan vielä sitten sotilaallakin :)|pg||
nt|wiki: rouvapari saa lopussa|pg||
nt|kaapo: "ei muuten kiinnosta :-))" vastasi eräs nimetön Senaattori|pg||
nt|bagman: :)|pg||
nt|wiki: no sai sen hertallekin toisin päin|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: yes :(|pg||
nt|pelu: whgy make defense easy for ast - the opener - just play @sA and @S -then E has to play @D|pg||
nt|wiki: jos täällä on suomalaisia jotka haluavat suomenkieleelä niin kertokaa, täällä oli äskenb vain ulkomaalaisia katsojia|pg||
nt|kaapo: Markeerausvirhe?|pg||
nt|plateos: joo sekavassa sarjassa P ehkä lupasi @c pidon ja I sitten uskoi sitä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristin pelaaminen oli ainoa looginen vaihtoehto äsken|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ady: might have sneaked an overtrick play a low spade toward the Q10|pg||
nt|ady: east may not see the need to switch to a diamond|pg||
nt|bagman: Maski tulossa...|pg||
nt|wiki: Juusoa helpottaa ettei paikka mene ainakaan väärien tulosmerkintöjen vuoksi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Sen verran täytyy vielä täydentää, että tänään pelaavista vielä ainakin Kaj Sundsten on bridgenpelaajana kasvanut samassa koulussa. Ja kuten Wiki aiemmin sanoi, kaikki nämä ...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: seniorit ovat tuttuja keskenään ja pelanneet eri komibnaatioissa vuosien varrella.|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for the convention lovers --- there's a thing called Raptor, which is a 1N overcall to show 4M & 5+m -- that would have allowed NS to find @H fit|pg||
nt|bagman: Edellinen jako taas kasvatti eroa|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAJ6HK6DAJT932C98,SQ742HJ74DKQ8CJT2,ST8H832D7654CA765,SK953HAQT95DCKQ43|sv|e|nt|ralfwil: I think it only depends on limited choise. With 2 cards failing there is 2 possibilities with 1-1 and 2 for 2-0. But you can olny solv it on one hand|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I don't belive he ruffed small|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: i missed it|pg||
nt|capercliff: well earned swing|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|odysseus69: 4H making looks like a good result|pg||
mb|2H|nt|bobh1: hard to stay out of game red at imps|pg||
mb|3D|nt|bobh1: with 2 opening hands facing each other|pg||
nt|bobh1: maybe they will be able to defend|pg||
mb|3S|nt|odysseus69: Ace of diamonds lead perhaps?|pg||
mb|3N|nt|yo_yo: it doesnt look easy to make 4@H|pg||
mb|d|nt|eggy: well 2-2 is about 40% and reistricted choice totals 46%|pg||
nt|yo_yo: A@D lead maybe|pg||
mb|4C|nt|col3435: this is fine though|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes it was|pg||
mb|d|nt|col3435: you can play in game, so long as it's the right game|pg||
nt|capercliff: is 4@s that bad?|pg||
mb|4D|nt|mayors: ew may take the money available here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I am told that d Ace was in fact the lead|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: the key bid here was W's negative double|pg||
nt|bobh1: his counterpart bid 3@c|pg||
nt|eggy: however, of course EW will feel justified in avoiding a poor slam|pg||
nt|garnetts: q@D would be a spectacular lead|pg||
nt|garnetts: Might even find it on the bidding|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 300 v 620 |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|mayors: Despite a fit for both of partner's suits the west hand with @d KQx is very defensive|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|eggy: Jason must have bid 3NT confidently then :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Collins has made 2 disastrous Ace leads conceding 1 vul game and 1 vul slam|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dA|nt|eggy: so gerald probably read him as 1-5-4-3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|garnetts: true|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SAQHJ763DJTCQ9873,S85HT82DA976432CJ,S976HAK95D85CT654,SKJT432HQ4DKQCAK2|sv|b|nt|caitlin: we saw it at open table last quarter 2SX making N-S while E-W making 3NT here closed table|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pairs using the Raptor convention must DBL with hands that would overcall with Strong NT|pg||
nt|caitlin: Roland had a FIT about that convention:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhhh -- that's where 870 came from|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 3N made on spade lead CR when north shed his heart stop on the long spade|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1NT-all pass?|pg||
nt|sybarra: looking also,  a mad dash to 1 nt|pg||
nt|daman: partscore hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think would have led to -4|pg||
nt|kareno: Or just leave it as a penalty card to be played at the first legal opportunity.|pg||
nt|sybarra: (maybe something good happens...and it did)|pg||
nt|xenya: with N's hand i mean|pg||
nt|kareno: King of spades is a big card.  The clubs take two and only two tricks.  My inclination is to try to push them up one level.    But on the other hand, you certainly could be right ...|pg||
nt|kareno: and I could be influenced by what I know about this hand.|pg||
nt|wiki: Paganus kyselee, mitä Arlella oli...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Yleensä Kaitsulla nuo eivät kestä kauaa :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kyseessä on karsinta ensi vuonna Suomen Turussa pelattaviin Pohjoismaiden mestaruuskisoihin. Mukana on viisi seniorijoukkuetta.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tänään pelataan 48 jaon pudotusottelu. Kolme joukkuetta pelaa myllyssä ja yksi niistä pääsee huomiseen finaaliin. Näistä kahdesta voittaja on toinen finalisti.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tämänpäiväiset pelit on jaettu 8 jaon segmentteihin, jotka pelataan aina 2 segmenttiä peräkkäin, minkä jälkeen on tauko.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisan sivuille|pg||
nt|wiki: uusi NS- ainakin pelaajat tuntevat toisensa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kyllä - ja lisää einaria, ehkäpä sitä perinteisempää versiota :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Seuraa ruokatauko ja pelit jatkuvat klo 14.00 Tervetuloa seuraamaan!|pg||
nt|bagman: A good slam here; let's see if NS bid it|pg||
nt|wiki: jos se 6-11 niin miksei|pg||
nt|wiki: Senaattorin kanssa päästään pelaamaan skiniä ????|pg||
nt|bagman: Sekä suora KO-ottelu että mylly olivat molemmat erittäin tiukkoja|pg||
nt|bagman: Myllyssä jokainen joukkue voitti yhden ottelun; Asparaguksella oli eniten plus-IMPpejä|pg||
nt|wiki: Uskali kaventanut impillä!!|pg||
nt|bagman: Ero on nyt 20 IMP ja ottelun ratkaisujako on pelissä avoimessa huoneessa|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: there is a story about a player who doidnt know what to lead so he waited for ages then threw down a sweet paper  dummy put his hand down  lead problem solved |pg||
nt|werge: New slam|pg||
nt|daman: the last 2 were exciting   now   NS will end up in 3NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: love the East hand (NOT) |pg||
mb|2D|nt|wilkinsona: North on 19 made a better try for -2 but the defence was careful|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so much for that|pg||
nt|xenya: EW may well end up in 4@S here|pg||
nt|kareno: That was Goldwater's Law, named after the late, Great Harry Goldwater, a director in New York City.  |pg||
nt|daman: the East hand is what I usually hold at rubber|pg||
nt|sybarra: a yarb but for the 10 of @D|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelaajat ovat aikoinaan pelanneet ainakin kombinaatioissa Leikola-Paganus ja Järvinen-Paganus|pg||
nt|bagman: Eikös sitten Mäkinen olisi tehnyt mitään kummempaa korteilla Axx KQTx Jx KQxx ?|pg||
nt|wiki: mä kyllä arvasin täällä oikein - peitin silmät ensin|pg||
nt|wiki: no ei me sentään Eeron kanssa oo kuitenkaan tolleen|pg||
nt|plateos: että mun pitikin just nyt vaihtaa huonetta|pg||
nt|bagman: :)|pg||
nt|wiki: kiva kun tulit|pg||
nt|bagman: En mä muuten olisi kertonutkaan|pg||
nt|wiki: vaarallisen näköinen jako tämäkin|pg||
nt|wiki: vaikuttaa 4 padaltta|pg||
nt|wiki: uskali on kirinyt, jaossa 11 tekivät 4  @H ja ehkäisy maksoi 300|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali avaa jotain|pg||
nt|bagman: Avoimessa Koivisto-Puurtisella on erinomainen tulos|pg||
nt|wiki: jako 45 siellä käsittelyssä eli se vauhtijako|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: this might turn out a tragic hand|pg||
nt|wiki: Uskalin mahdollisuus- tosin 4 @H seisoo|pg||
mb|2N|nt|frankaus: the last was a hard 1 to play or defend  - i would prefer to be the declarer|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Frank... would you like to lead from that west hand?|pg||
nt|pelu: 6@C -2 = flat board 5@CX -1 :)|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S  is a make |pg||
nt|sybarra: lets not be pards in Rubber, George, me too!|pg||
nt|daman: they bid the first slam in the OR|pg||
nt|wiki: pelaaks NS Einaria?|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei varmaankaan|pg||
nt|mmmakela: ei kai Juuso Eikkaa?|pg||
nt|wiki: Järvinen on toki eräs systeemin laatijoista|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ahaa, juuso on siis luonnollisen kannattaja|pg||
nt|bagman: Juuso on Precisionisti|pg||
nt|bagman: oli|pg||
nt|bagman: 6@C is especially good on a heart lead as it needs no spade break|pg||
nt|wiki: jos se pelas käännettyjä korotuksia nyt ? mutta ois voinut ajatella 4 pataa noilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Oli kyllä varmaan minun syyni; tosin en muista enää tarkasti|pg||
nt|wiki: Kortit ovat vähän hassusti jakautuneet koko ajan|pg||
nt|wiki: jos vain jaksaa sinne asti|pg||
nt|bagman: Niin vaikuttaa. Suljetussa huoneessa etelän avaus sai pohjoisen toisiin aatoksiin|pg||
nt|wiki: Manolla on halu tarjota|pg||
nt|bagman: Kilpaileeko Sundsten?|pg||
nt|wiki: EWllä on 3 ruutua, mutta vaikea enää päästä siihen|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämän puolustaminen olisi kivaa, mutta ruutuja on jossain|pg||
nt|wiki: voi tulla sama tulos|pg||
nt|bagman: Otteluun on tulossa kavennusta...|pg||
nt|wiki: paitsi jos tulee ruutuvarkaus|pg||
nt|bagman: Kaatuu ruutukuppiin|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: they may be the pair playing an 11-14 NT|pg||
nt|xenya: clear 4@S from W now i think|pg||
nt|ady: west thinking of double or 4@S|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Another case of bidding one more to aovid a big loss|pg||
nt|cuttysark: This time it actually makes, so clearly right!|pg||
nt|bagman: Avoin huone saattaa pelata 3 ruutua kotiin edellisessä jaossa|pg||
mb|3D|nt|thegarve: hmm no 1@h in 3rd position?|pg||
nt|daman: no need|pg||
nt|hedyg: not vulnerable|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Also right if 4H is making|pg||
nt|xenya: i would prefer 4@S -- partner has shown a suit, not points|pg||
nt|ady: it is not every day that partner is 6-5-1-1    west has defence to 4@H     I dont think that clear cut|pg||
nt|daman: Henriques take a useful lead|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 NT onnistuis|pg||
nt|bagman: Vanhassa einarissa 2NT lupaa nyt 15-17 5k padalla|pg||
nt|bagman: uudessa ilmeisesti ei |pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kiitos Markku, Wiki ja Pekka @H|pg||
nt|wiki: yes - always when @Ss 3-2 or @SJ singelton|pg||
nt|wiki: and of course 6 @Cs better|pg||
nt|bagman: Actually 6@C makes on diamond lead with 4-1 spades: DA, D-ruff, SA, D-ruff with CA, club from dummy|pg||
nt|kaapo: Real score: 46-22|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto Puurtinen is also know as Pietinen-Slamminen for a reason; pun in Finnish, sorry|pg||
nt|bagman: They used to bid every slam looking hand to slam|pg||
nt|wiki: jaatkamme suomeksi - suomalaiset ovat tulleet takaisin :)|pg||
nt|wiki: tai ainakin pitänyt tarjota se|pg||
nt|bagman: Minusta Sundstenilla oli marginaalinen arvaus, jossa paino oli pikkuisen todellisen istunnon puolella|pg||
nt|bagman: 3 ja 1/2 pataa|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikola tekee swingiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Kahdennus lupaa kortteja ja herttoja|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|jrssd: now a game try?|pg||
nt|thegarve: what do you want lead?|pg||
nt|kareno: 3@c feels like a Western Cue Bid, asking north to bid 3NT with a stopper.|pg||
nt|ahh: avoid 3nt here |pg||
nt|daman: I always held those hands against Sami Kehela      helped him to retire early|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @S 4th suit |pg||
nt|sybarra: glad you could afford it |pg||
nt|werge: Never bidding a 8-card suit|pg||
nt|kareno: It's dangerous for north to bid now.  Obviously south's clubs are real, leaving little room for diamonds in his hand.|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali-Sundsten onnistui tekemään sarjasta erittäin vaikean. Suoraviivaisessa systeemissä sarja olisi voinut mennä joko 1NT-3NT tai 1@S-1NT-2NT-3NT|pg||
nt|bagman: Patapeli järjestyy aika korkealla (10 tai 11 tikkiä)|pg||
nt|bagman: Kiitokset kaikille|pg||
nt|wiki: joo kiitos vain kaikille, mä oon ainakinvielä 14  mukana|pg||
nt|mmmakela: joo kiitti kibeille|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Ja erityisesti kiinnostuneet katsojat, kiitos seurasta @H|pg||
nt|maribelxx: samoin|pg||
nt|wiki: ja muutkin katsojat :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Pinja on myös toiminut hyvin, kiitos|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisasivulle|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tuloksia tulee kunhan valmistuvat|pg||
nt|maribelxx: nähdään klo 14|pg||
nt|wiki: splinter|pg||
nt|wiki: RD?|pg||
nt|bagman: XX, lupaa ässän|pg||
nt|bagman: ja sitten 4@S kieltäen herttakontrollin ja siinäpä se|pg||
nt|bagman: Omat virheet yritän aina unohtaa mahdollisimman nopeasti|pg||
nt|bagman: En olisi passannut Rimonin korteilla|pg||
nt|maribelxx: toinen pöytä on näköjään pelannut paljon hitaammin, mutta saimme sentään jonkun vertailutuloksen näihin loppujakoihin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kolmannesta kädestä Uskali olisi voinut ajatella avausta|pg||
nt|wiki: hieman outo pass 6-4llä|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Well judged not to compete here.|pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
nt|kareno: spade leads are best for the defense.|pg||
nt|wiki: 2 NT ois normaalitarjous mutta näillä se on aika monimuotoinen eikä kai sovi tähän|pg||
mb|4D|nt|frankaus: no but i think i would not lead from jxxx|pg||
nt|thegarve: wrap up an easy 1NT instead|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He has wandered in vulnerable on not many points - must have distribution|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ruutuässän tietty :)|pg||
nt|wiki: juuri näin - vaikea sanoa kun ei ole aivan varma avauksesta|pg||
nt|bagman: kotipeli vaatii ruudun arvauksen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kahden padan tarjous ei ollut vaatimus|pg||
nt|wiki: kovaa mennään - NS vahvoilla - 6 @D lienee 500|pg||
nt|maribelxx: passikin on näköjään alla, joten ei varsinkaan|pg||
nt|plateos: ehkä se oli mun koska en muista mitään|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaisu on myös 2@C minusta|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: he chose the best   especially when doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: whre did N find that X???|pg||
nt|wiki: ylisen avaus siellä lupasi 5-8 ap 6+ tai 5+ 4+|pg||
nt|bagman: Koiviston käsi on aika hyvä, koska mikään arvoista ei ole hidas eikä kyseenalainen|pg||
nt|wiki: Oisin ehkä ootellut Ramin korteilla kierroksen, koska partneri on passannut|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: i've had some good results the few times i've played Raptor, but always felt uncomfortable with auctions over partner's takeout DBL|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 6 spades playing or on the same trump lead 20|pg||
nt|werge: 4 @S is the best spot|pg||
nt|ahh: avoid 4@H here |pg||
nt|kareno: 5@d makes with the excellent spades in dummy.  However, 4@h does not.  I'm not fond of north's rebidding that bad suit.|pg||
nt|mmmakela: katsotaan nyt sitten kuinka korkealla...|pg||
nt|bagman: Puurtinen näkee tilanteen|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt 6@C|pg||
nt|wiki: Puurtinen jatkaa kyllä tässä sarjassa|pg||
nt|bagman: koska herttaässä puuttuu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: niin voima on muualla|pg||
nt|bagman: 6@C maksaa jo 500; eli kyseenalainen investointi ei-niin-varman täyspelin päälle|pg||
nt|wiki: tai 1 pata|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä tarvitsee hertasta 9. tikin|pg||
nt|bagman: Sen saa vain puolustuksen avulla|pg||
nt|bagman: 3x pataa ja Sundsten sakaa ruudun|pg||
nt|wiki: kyllä seitsemäs tikki jostain väkisin kömpii|pg||
nt|wiki: kun kaksi passannutta kättä kohtaavat....|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: this is a good new/bad news hand - the pointed suits lie well, the round suits not|pg||
nt|xenya: N has shown considerable courage by keeping silent|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä vetänää herttamaskin ja arvannee ristin oikein. Loppu onkin sitten padan käsittelyä|pg||
nt|wiki: mano haluaa pelata :)|pg||
nt|wiki: sry siis 6 @C|pg||
nt|bagman: Linden invitoi aika vahvoilla|pg||
nt|wiki: ei vaan siellähän avataan 1 NT|pg||
nt|bagman: avataan 1NT ja sitten siirretään jollain tavalla ruutuun|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 sangia ei aivan heti onnistu |pg||
nt|bagman: Puolustuksella ei oikein ole tapaa päästää tätä kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: avoimessa puolustus todella auttoi vähän liikaa hertassa|pg||
nt|wiki: @HK, ruutua ja @HA|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä on menossa 3 herttatikkiä kannelta. Kasvattamalla ruudun tai padan pelinviejä saa kasaan 8 tikkiä|pg||
nt|bagman: 9. tikin kasvatus antaa puolustukselle 5. tikin|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä on Uskalilla 12 IMP:n tilaisuus|pg||
nt|bagman: Hyvä lähtö, jolla puolustus ottaa ruutukupin|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/RGlossary/Raptor.html    a Toronto convention--believe Gitelman plays it as ex Torontonian:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: I remember it by thinking of our basketball team:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: jrssd - a frequent BBO player and sometimes commentator has an extended write-up of follow-ups to raptor in his system notes|pg||
nt|santyclz: The velocoraptors?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: will still make perhaps|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He has two (un)likely tricks and partner opened the bidding....|pg||
nt|pelu: no tricks, so..??|pg||
nt|ahh: whenever i bid to 4@S on 4-3 trumps are 5-1|pg||
nt|bagman: Tästä taitaa olla menossa risti ja pari ruutua|pg||
nt|wiki: 5 @D ei aivan onnistu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Mano pääsi kuitenkin pelinviejäksi :)|pg||
nt|bagman: DD:nä tulee 11 tikkiä varmaankin (en katsonut GIBistä) ja livenä peli menee varmaan kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: GIB???|pg||
nt|bagman: Hups; ei tule DD:näkään 11 tikkiä|pg||
nt|wiki: juuri näin tai kysyy ässät, jos mahdollista|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämä taitaa kuitenkin olla pelinviejän kannalta parhaimpia alkuja|pg||
nt|wiki: en keksi kuin 8 korkeintaan|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta kun ei ole voimaa niin ei ole- mulle toi on 3 pataa 6:lla menevällä|pg||
nt|wiki: Leikolan bangi ja hyvä lähtö tuo ainakin yhden impin|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: ha ha:)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: not much good news in the north hand really|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: may well make for a swing..|pg||
nt|frankaus: how many times will W be end played ?|pg||
nt|jrssd: no, they are a bit too high - north wanted to play "reduction bids" where you are allowed to go back to 2H (midnight bridge)|pg||
nt|daman: not as important as competing too high vulnerable|pg||
nt|kareno: West of course passes since 4@h is the only contract he can beat :)|pg||
nt|werge: This was the |pg||
nt|wiki: mä saisin tähä ehkä 10 tikkiä tolla lähdöllä|pg||
nt|bagman: 3 pataa olisi minusta ollut lähempänä kuin 2 pataa mutta kyllä 2 padallekin on perustelunsa|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kareno: Why not just raise diamonds?|pg||
nt|daman: @S 9 must be 0 or 2 higher|pg||
nt|bagman: Padan käsittely ei onnistu, koska pitää kupata pari ruutua pöytään|pg||
nt|wiki: risti kasvaa|pg||
nt|wiki: jos E ottaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Risti kasvaa vaan ei oikein ole yhteyksiä sekä pelata ristiä että hake se ja ottaa valtitkin pois ennen kuin tulee ristikuppi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: siis mustissa väreissä|pg||
nt|bagman: Mitä kääntää Linden?|pg||
nt|bagman: Mäkisenkortti viittaa hertta-arvoon|pg||
nt|wiki: todellakaan 4 impin kanssa ei aina kanntata taistella - ne on vain ne ylitikit (Lea!@H)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: hyvä tietää @H|pg||
nt|wiki: ruut K:n jälkeen @H 10 kaataa|pg||
nt|bagman: Honkavuorella on heikot dubbelit. Tarjoussarja voi päättyä tähän|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kareno: n/s will get their equity on this hand by defeating 3@s.  |pg||
nt|plateos: Hyvin tarjottu (toisessa huoneessa e teki 2@c)|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta  Matilla pitäis olla yksi eka splinteriin|pg||
nt|bagman: 10IMP kavennusta|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: NICE LEAD ZIA|pg||
nt|santyclz: I guess that would be the track team.|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this 1@H response may be taking a good thing too far|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and 3N counting 84 as a stopper is bizarre -- 3@S should let South declare|pg||
nt|frankaus: cash @S lead @D|pg||
nt|jrssd: that was a break, declarer didnt have to waste an entry on the Spade finesse|pg||
nt|jrssd: but West had only unattractive leads|pg||
nt|bagman: Voi tämä mennä pietiinkin mutta yleensä Järvinen pelaa tällaiset kotiin|pg||
nt|bagman: tämä ei vaadi mitään ihmeitä nyt|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|plateos: toisessa pöydässä balanssi oli 3NT ja @s lähdöllä ylitikit katsosi nopeasti. Nyt voi tulla enemmän vääntöä.|pg||
nt|wiki: tuhti pata ja 2 naulaa sivussa|pg||
nt|bagman: ?|pg||
nt|bagman: Kuningas ei pyydä herttaa|pg||
nt|wiki: Rananin korteilla oisin nyt tarjonnut ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: Niinpä|pg||
pc|s5|nt|hedyg: dont want a switch so overtake|pg||
nt|bagman: pelinviejä varastaa kaksi ruutua pöytään; kerran pienellä ja kerran isolla|pg||
nt|wiki: luultavasti ruutukuppeja |pg||
nt|bagman: nyt kestää 0-5 padankin|pg||
nt|bagman: renonssi Mäkisellä|pg||
nt|bagman: Toisessa pöydässä patalähdöllä taas ei pelinviejä saanut kuin 9 tikkiä|pg||
nt|bagman: Ei taida olla 8 enempää ellei puolustus tee jotain todella kummallista|pg||
pc|s6|nt|kareno: It's time for a trump lead!!|pg||
nt|xenya: re previous hand: you were dead right, Karen -- N bid 3@S in the OR and EW wound up in 5@C! |pg||
nt|xenya: doubled too|pg||
nt|kareno: :)|pg||
nt|xenya: for -500|pg||
nt|wiki: se olis lähtenyt renossilla :)|pg||
nt|wiki: 46 on siellä pelaamatta vielä|pg||
nt|kaapo: Toinen huone ei jaossa 46 voinut avata mitään, koska kortit olivat jakautuneet 12-14. Uusi yritys hetken päästä|pg||
pc|sT|nt|frankaus: can be made from here|pg||
nt|ahh: big lesson here  if the oppenents have a better spot  dont double them |pg||
nt|bagman: Pelaavatko Uskali-Sundsten luonnollista 1NT-avausta vai Lahjattomien avausta?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Sekä Uskali että Sundsten haluaisivat mieluiten olla itse pelinviejiä|pg||
nt|wiki: ja sama moka :(|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Viisi ruutua on avoimen sitoumus vauhtijaossa|pg||
nt|wiki: pläää|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvinen ei uskonut kuppiin|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: relayers might be able to find the perfecta 6N by South -- but not here with North hiding that suit|pg||
nt|sybarra: W will keep searching for something in pards hand to no avail |pg||
nt|kareno: Oh, my!!  Pushing the opponents around can have big benefits.  I was talking about the 5-IMP swings you cannot afford to give up by conceding partscores.  This was a bonanza for ...|pg||
nt|kareno: doing what I thought was the right thing.|pg||
nt|werge: Better here to ruff with the Q|pg||
nt|bagman: Tikki käteen, ruutuässä ja kuppi|pg||
nt|bagman: Viittaa herttapituuteen...|pg||
nt|bagman: Leikkaako Uskali ruudun nyt?|pg||
nt|bagman: Siis ei tässä tikissä vaan tässä jaossa :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Olin jo kirjoittamassa, ettei puolustus voi kämmätä herttaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Pitiköhän Leikolan ottaa valttiässä pois|pg||
pc|d2|nt|maribelxx: Arvailisin, että lahjattomia jo nykyään|pg||
nt|wiki: sry en tiedä - ehkä ei 5 kortin yv ole sallittu|pg||
pc|d8|nt|pelu: now 10 tricks - we are playing for 11|pg||
nt|ady: making 4|pg||
nt|werge: Here they tad TWO better spots|pg||
nt|bagman: Miksiköhän 2NT ei ollut sallittu?|pg||
nt|bagman: sitten herttakupilla käteen ja ruutukuppi|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|april7: tu|pg||
nt|davidstern: Thinking back to that hand declarer was going to go down when the @HK was singleton so gave up a legitimate chance for no chance|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: gulp -- club before unblocking K@D???|pg||
nt|ahollan1: never mind -- A@H still available to get back to clubs|pg||
nt|bagman: Risti pitänee nyt arvata täysin oikein eli pelata Qx väliin|pg||
nt|bagman: taas herttakupilla käteen ja valtit pois|pg||
nt|bagman: pataan ei tarvinnut koskea kertaakaan|pg||
nt|wiki: voivoi, nyt ois yks Pekan kiristyksistä voinut toimia kun kerrankin oli 14|pg||
nt|bagman: Käsi ei ole 6 menevän käsi vaan solidin 7 pelitikin käsi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sehän tietää hyvää ottelun kannalta|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: better still - win K@S and claim!!|pg||
nt|april7: hi everybody and good afternoon|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Good afternoon Avram|pg||
nt|davidstern: Guten Tag|pg||
nt|april7: hi mike and david|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: that 6 spades surely taking a heart finesse is more or less 50-50 chance|pg||
nt|bagman: Ristitikki katosi tähän mutta pelinviejä tarvitsisi kaikki tikit säästääkseen IMPin|pg||
nt|bagman: Hertat eivät varmaankaan häviä; ei ainakaan molemmat :)|pg||
nt|wiki: avoimessa kahden hertan jälkeen N ajatteli, että E:lle kasvaa valttitikki eikä pelannut ristiä. hankalaa|pg||
pc|h2|nt|xenya: to be fair, it was not clear who was bidding to make here, so N's double doesn't look that silly|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos Paganus laistaa, @D-kuppi, pataa sotamiehellä, pataässä ja sitten @CK |pg||
nt|mmmakela: eli vaatii max pelinviennin että saa edes sen 10|pg||
nt|wiki: Paganus miettii nykyään hitaammin|pg||
nt|bagman: wd|pg||
nt|wiki: se on siis 14 imppiä luulisin|pg||
pc|d5|nt|wiki: en usko|pg||
nt|bagman: Kyllä 10 tikkiä taitaa olla maksimi vaikkapa loppuun pelaisikin|pg||
nt|bagman: Etelän aikainen ristisakaus toisi 11. tikin|pg||
nt|bagman: noh, kaikkea sattuu|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bagman: Levitys tulossa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: aivan, jos se olisi ollut 5-0|pg||
nt|plateos: @h on varaa kupata isolla|pg||
nt|wiki: teknistä hienoutta pelata pikku ruutu - hyvä Charlie|pg||
nt|bagman: Peli menee kotiin vain, jos Sundsten kääntää nyt patakympin :)|pg||
nt|wiki: ja sehän on tod näk|pg||
nt|bagman: Vain, jos se putoaa vahingossa kädestä|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ahh: now he can double :)|pg||
nt|kareno: This was a terrible contract.  Required exactly Kxx of hearts in west.|pg||
nt|kareno: n/s collecting their equity in the hand 100 at a time versus playing an iffy contract in diamonds.|pg||
nt|wiki: niinpä - se ois luonnollista jos ei 5 krt yv sangissa|pg||
nt|bagman: Paganus ei voi laistaa Ax:stä joten Järvinen sai miettimisestä apua|pg||
nt|bagman: on varaa ottaa kaksi isoa herttakuppia, koska ei ole kuin kaksi valttia ylhäällä|pg||
nt|bagman: Siinä on minusta iso ero|pg||
nt|wiki: avoimessakin ois ehkä ylinen voinut maksimeilla ja ristivoimalla nostaa, mut en tarkkaan tiedä sopimuksia|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|bagman: pakko peittää|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundsten näki kyllä jotain mörköjä patakuninkaassa|pg||
nt|wiki: hertasta ilmeisesti|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: risky playing for 5 |pg||
pc|c3|nt|werge: Or J-19 doubleton!|pg||
nt|bagman: VIRHE!|pg||
pc|h8|nt|pelu: why?|pg||
nt|werge: J-10|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, that works also.|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 imppiä jää eroa vielä ja tässä tulee 1 joten 5 on ero|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|frankaus: @D x to give dec a guess|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Had to start finessing spades while he was in dummy - I think he is right to settle for the safe 10 tricks|pg||
nt|bagman: mutta Niemellä on herttoja heitellä pois|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bagman: Olisi pitänyt tulla rankaisu :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Levitysaika|pg||
pc|c8|nt|apocalipse: wd by W|pg||
nt|daman: no squeeze|pg||
nt|plateos: josta ei rangaistu|pg||
pc|hT|nt|wilkinsona: Hi Avram|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|april7: hi tony|pg||
nt|wiki: no, risti kasvoi:)|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvinen ei voi arvata väärin, jos hän noteeraa Paganuksen miettimisen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ja pataistunto oli jo nähty|pg||
nt|wiki: ja ristirouva sakattu pois|pg||
nt|bagman: Ai, ristirouva olikin jo sakattu hertalle|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sekin vielä :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt ei todellakaan enää voi arvata väärin|pg||
nt|bagman: Eikös olisi levitysaika?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: vois ehkä levittääkin|pg||
nt|wiki: kiusaa bacchusta|pg||
nt|bagman: Tai ei huomannut ristirouvaa :)|pg||
nt|bagman: En minäkään huomannut, kun tuijotin vain chat-ruutua|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin ristirouva on musta ja herttaa pelattiin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sitäpä ruvettiin kasvattamaan|pg||
nt|kaapo: Jaa, Leakin on selv...herännyt :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: oikein|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wiki: joku muu häiriö, ei paganus mieti noin kauan|pg||
nt|wiki: helppo tasabricka|pg||
pc|h3|nt|sybarra: an illusion maybe if he cashed sp?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|bagman: Tämän jälkeen tulee sitten herttaa. Onko mahdollista, että Uskali arvaa lopussa väärin?|pg||
nt|bagman: tiukaksi menee ottelu|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|jrssd: the HT from dummy  instead of a small one was crucial|pg||
nt|apocalipse: an d by declarer ...|pg||
nt|maribelxx: herännyt|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kommentaattori sanoi, että 5 punaista väriä on kannattava uhraus, mutta almost unbiddable|pg||
nt|wiki: eihän sitä kuppia tullutkaan joten 6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|daman: need to hold the !KJ and the QJ109 of @D|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d4|nt|bagman: Nyt pelinviejä pelaa klassista kiristyslopputilannetta. Se vaan ei voi toimia ellei etelällä olisi ollut 15 korttia|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s2|pg||
mc|10|nt|bagman: Sundsten käänsi hertat iso edellä|pg||
pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SAQHJ763DJTCQ9873,S85HT82DA976432CJ,S976HAK95D85CT654,SKJT432HQ4DKQCAK2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: a danger of raising partner without an honour and no real desire to compete often has the effect of producing a costly lead|pg||
mb|3D|nt|bobh1: 6@s makes but is not a good contract|pg||
nt|garnetts: a spade lead will get dec 7 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: good spot - end|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Stuart wont pass that i bet|pg||
nt|capercliff: does E think he has too much to pass?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: why not|pg||
nt|yo_yo: how about 3NT with a @C lead|pg||
nt|col3435: heh, that's the trouble with these strong clubs, people like to pre-empt over them :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but this time it's partner preemptinb :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|yo_yo: gosh what discipline|pg||
nt|capercliff: wd|pg||
pc|h4|nt|col3435: I expect they've agreed 3@d is very weak|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do twins have mental telepathy?|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|fann4: h|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looked automatic to me- |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: weak &  long|pg||
pc|hK|nt|capercliff: requires 2 finesses and trumps 3-2|pg||
nt|capercliff: well 1 finesse actually|pg||
nt|capercliff: these guys like to take their time|pg||
nt|capercliff: 6 brds played in 50 min|pg||
nt|bobh1: need to worry about the third round of @h's and there's a possible @d ruff also|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes he is trying to work out best line if @s are 4-1|pg||
nt|bobh1: on the previous hand, he spent a lot of time worrying about 5-1 @s's|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: time running out|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|col3435: East would have had a fairly good idea that partner had Axxxxxx and out|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|col3435: there's not much else it could be|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes but he could of had the Q@s also|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|yo_yo: well the hacketts didnt stop, i am told|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h5|nt|capercliff: sm @h|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|capercliff: or this way|pg||
nt|capercliff: but sm to J looks safer|pg||
nt|capercliff: they mest be finished in the other room Margaret?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the only real danger was 3 spades and a singleton heart but perhaps with 10 hearts possible that oppo could bid|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SA92HJ7DK9763CK85,SKT83HQ52DJT82CQ4,SQ64HT643D4CT7632,SJ75HAK98DAQ5CAJ9|sv|o|nt|jrssd: that was good technique, rewarded|pg||
nt|pelu: no just play @SJ to King and Ace - still safe to ruff a @C and play @S to 9|pg||
nt|ahh: i hate 4@H bid  if p had the right cards for 4@H he would bid it not 4@D|pg||
nt|werge: South should have doubled 2 @C|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|mmmakela: liian hyvä 5k pata sangiin ehkä|pg||
nt|kaapo: Arle 46 - Uskali 34|pg||
nt|bagman: Eli KQJx xxxxx x Qxxx|pg||
nt|wiki: voi sun erojas Pekka :)|pg||
nt|wiki: se on just se tuhtu pata |pg||
nt|bagman: ja ne ässät :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Puurtinen halusi helpottaa partnerinsa tilannetta, koska kuvitteli, että pelinviejällä olisi ollut tikit ruudun jälkeen|pg||
nt|bagman: Puolustuskirjat suosittelevat, että K pyytää jatkamaan ja Q on herätyskellokortti|pg||
nt|wiki: multi?|pg||
nt|bagman: Eikös se 5 punaista ollut menossa kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvä ehkishän se sellainen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: eli melkein mahdoton tarjota .... ei kuitenkaan Puurtiselle|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: it looks like E playing 1@D|pg||
nt|wiki: siinä meni pinnoja - Linden-Mäkinen tarjoaa 1 NT - 3 NT|pg||
nt|bagman: Tuskin se pata liian hyvä oli tarjota 2NT :)|pg||
nt|wiki: Moi Eero!  Puurtinen antaa aina sporting chance vastustajalle - herrasmiesten peli|pg||
nt|bagman: Suljettussa huoneessa ei noudatettu Burnin lakia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Uskali on ottanut rakoa kiinni, tänään pelataan vielä kaksi 8 jaon segmenttiä|pg||
nt|bagman: kolmen tasolla siitä yleensä seuraa miinusmerkintä|pg||
nt|bagman: tai itse asiassa KQJ xxxxx Ax Qxxx|pg||
nt|wiki: tässä voi taas kyllä tapahtua 8 imppiä, jännäks menee (?)|pg||
nt|bagman: jaossa 46 Niemi avasi 1@S ja pelasi siihen ylitikin; Arle kavensi taas|pg||
nt|bagman: KQxxxx x Kxx Kxx on myös kuuden menevän käsi :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos partnerilla olisi ollut KQxx, 10-kääntö olisi voinut johtaa siihen, että partneri ottaa tikin ja jatkaa jotain muuta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: perinteisen näköinen on|pg||
nt|maribelxx: oikein kaksi huippukuvaa kuudes|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: board 4 also 5cx in OR|pg||
nt|daman: and for the most part the Portugese bid everything in sight|pg||
nt|bagman: 14 IMP ja Asparagus johtaa vielä kuudella|pg||
mb|1C|nt|santyclz: Takes too much time (in the committee).|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: bit of a muddle on 6... result from other room changed it seems|pg||
nt|april7: S has almost 1NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: precision 2@c|pg||
nt|kareno: Perhaps that shows three hearts.|pg||
nt|werge: Awfuk 1 NT - to me|pg||
nt|werge: Awfuk|pg||
nt|kareno: Very |pg||
nt|kareno: or awful :)|pg||
nt|werge: Awful|pg||
nt|frankaus: most would have supp X available so N can be certain S has no more then 2@H|pg||
nt|sybarra: 3 nt? |pg||
nt|bagman: eli Burnin laki sanoo, että pelinviejäpuolella pitäisi olla enemmistö valteista|pg||
nt|wiki: leikola-järvinen teki 4 @S ja pelasi kotiin jaossa 30|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Nyt taitaa olla tämän segmentin viimeinen jako, pelaajilla on tämän jälkeen kahvitauko|pg||
nt|bagman: eli vaan 14|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 ruutua menis ilma ristilähtöä|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 NT ja 4 pataakin järjestyy|pg||
nt|wiki: 3 @D max ?|pg||
nt|bagman: Hyvä slammi|pg||
nt|maribelxx: paras ehkis on kotipeli!|pg||
nt|wiki: viimeinen jako täällä - kiitos kaikille - jännää on vieläkin|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: South African transfer|pg||
nt|thegarve: a thinn 4@s if they can get the suit in|pg||
nt|hedyg: not surprising, is it?|pg||
nt|sybarra: bidding everything in site|pg||
mb|1S|nt|april7: is N balancing? could be|pg||
nt|mdgraham: yes|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: surely|pg||
nt|wiki: eikun ei menekään|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT menee|pg||
nt|bagman: Jopa minun pelinviennillä|pg||
nt|wiki: luuletsä|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubb tarjonnee vielä toisenkin kerran|pg||
nt|wiki: merkiannot ovat joskus hankalia|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskalilla on paljon kortteja passanneeseen käteen|pg||
nt|wiki: minä myös|pg||
nt|bagman: Vaan ei ole oikein hyvää tarjousta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: niin oli ainakin ennen :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: siis maksimi ja pataväri|pg||
nt|maribelxx: taas positiivinen vastaus|pg||
nt|bagman: Tässä olisi ehkä mahdollisuus...|pg||
nt|bagman: Järvisen pitää osata passata|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: y|pg||
nt|werge: I do´nt like this 3 @D - you can play in other suits with that hand|pg||
nt|daman: not a fan of the t/o double|pg||
mb|2N|nt|thegarve: double a t/o of @c would have been easier on the previous round|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d would have asked if he had a major|pg||
nt|sybarra: now what?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: still thinking :)|pg||
nt|kareno: That|pg||
nt|werge: Service-double - gives N/S more room|pg||
nt|kareno: That's a little more than I think the north hand is worth - I would bid 2@s.  |pg||
nt|plateos: Terve. Mikä on Burnin laki? (Suljetussa tuli avaus 2NT!)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kahvitauon jälkeen pelit ja raamalähetys jatkuu klo 16.45|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenin virhe-arvaus oli sitten melkoisen halpa|pg||
nt|wiki: joo saattais onnistua|pg||
nt|bagman: Ups|pg||
nt|bagman: Avoimessa huoneessa 3 kierrosta herttaa ilmeisesti johti siihen, että pelinviejä arvasi padan väärin|pg||
nt|wiki: toinen positiivinen vastaus - jeee|pg||
nt|bagman: Ahne voi tarjota maskin takaisen 6NT ja poimia 2 IMPpiä; 6@C ei vaadi muuta kuin ristin käyttäytymään|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: ..good EW result other room here|pg||
nt|werge: In fact, N/S hat a good @C-contract - played by Northb|pg||
nt|wiki: pelinviejällä tulee olla enemmän valtteja kuin puolustuksella ?|pg||
nt|bagman: sukupolvien kuilu|pg||
nt|wiki: siinä se käännetty korotus nyt sitten tuli ja meni, mutta kotiin|pg||
nt|wiki: parsa on parasta huhtikuun lopussa ja kisa on kesäkuun alussa mutta katotaan nyt rauhassa kuka Harjattulassa pelaa|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mdgraham: controlled auction|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If they play Support Doubles so North has shown 4 hearts Soth should bid game now|pg||
nt|daman: yes   they missed the @C game|pg||
nt|sybarra: little chickens say peep peep peep |pg||
nt|maribelxx: Päivän kaksi viimeistä 8 jaon segmenttiä pelataan klo 16.45 alkaen|pg||
nt|bagman: eli 2IMP|pg||
nt|wiki: peli on tasoittunut. koska avoimessa ei puolustus ole ollut avuksi 3 sangissa|pg||
nt|bagman: Muuten 5@S on helppo kotipeli|pg||
nt|wiki: ei kun ne oli viidessä|pg||
nt|bagman: Eikös viidessä saa mennä 2 tikkiä?|pg||
nt|wiki: ja kuppi tapiksi|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt vasta huomasin, että S:llä on kolme herttaa :(|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali balansoi. Kuuluu turkulaiseen perusbridgeen.|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt varmaan Mano voi kahdentaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali miettii mitä tarjota. Ei sitä tarjotako (luulisin)|pg||
nt|wiki: agree|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundsten toivoo, että partneri passaisi, koska välitarjouson aika räävitön|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenilla on positiiviseen vastaukseen aika paljon|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kiitos operaattorille, katsojille, BBO:lle, kommentaattoreille ym ym - ja pelaajille myös!|pg||
nt|wiki: tämähän vois mennä kotiin - eiks ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: surprised by the identity of the 3@H bidder |pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt varmaan löytyy 4@H|pg||
nt|bagman: Jaossa tosin olisi ollut slammikin|pg||
nt|bagman: :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Niiden jälkeen tämän ottelun voittaja kohtaa huomenna myllyn voittajan karsinnan finaalissa|pg||
nt|wiki: välikiitokset taas kaikille, jos tauko ei ole kovin pitkä niin oon vielä jonkun aikaa seurassa|pg||
nt|wiki: tämä on session viimeinen - pieni tauko tän jälkeen|pg||
nt|bagman: Stubb tarjosi herttansa kertoakseen toisen värinsä|pg||
mb|p|nt|wiki: ja aika hyväkin vielä - melkein 10 %|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin tällaisia slammeja tarjotaan vasta viimeisessä segmentissä, jos on tarvis|pg||
nt|mmmakela: esim 6 @C :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Taas rikotaan Burnin lakia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kiitos tarkkavaisille katsojille, tässä sessiossahan on vielä toinenkin segmentti jäljellä|pg||
nt|plateos: se on saitten epäsuosiossa tässä jaossa|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta ei tiitä arlelle millään tämäkään makuu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: idältä käytännön ratkaisu|pg||
nt|bagman: 10 vaihtaa taas omistajaa|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt kyllä mielestäni jäi Kaitsulle vähän liikaa reserviin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: edellinen suoraviivainen 3NT oli onnekkaasti oikein, tämä ei|pg||
nt|bagman: Partnerilla on 18-20 joten slammi on mahdollinen ristifittiä vastaan|pg||
nt|wiki: nikkari on toki aika mitättömän näköinen arvo|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT taitaa kuitenkin olla keskimäärin paras tarjous|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: yes Mike, though I say thats a 1N overcall, like Avram|pg||
nt|bagman: Jukka ei osannut tehdä oikeaa preferenssiä|pg||
nt|wiki: kaipa 3 @C kertois 5-2? sekin|pg||
nt|bagman: Sundstenilla ei ollut koneita kertoa ristiväriä ja tusinaa pinnaa|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: hopefully 4@C was mild slam try -- otherwise that seems a bit strong|pg||
nt|xenya: i would balance with a double as N perhaps|pg||
nt|werge: Lead the @S K - and 3 @H is very easy|pg||
nt|ahh: been a great scrap to play this board |pg||
nt|bagman: EI pelinviejä voinutkaan kupata 3. herttaa isolla|pg||
nt|wiki: pata rouvalle ja ässä perään|pg||
nt|bagman: Tämäkin on mielenkiintoinen jako tässä tilanteessa. Pelinviejällä ei ole parasta puolustusta vastaan kotipelimahdollisuutta|pg||
pc|d8|nt|apocalipse: do you like W rebid?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: found in both rooms|pg||
nt|jrssd: seems ok, East at the other table really drove the hand to slam|pg||
nt|frankaus: 2@D its quite the accepted practice i beleive|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: specs helpfully pointing out 12 tricks cold in NT|pg||
nt|jrssd: does anyone know what 2H meant?|pg||
nt|kareno: With a heart lead, this will be down, losing a heart, a club and two spades.  The problem is the paper-thin spade holdings.|pg||
nt|xenya: you can't avoid bidding 4@S here i think|pg||
nt|werge: In fact, it´s a fair game, @D Queen bys openere, but not single or double|pg||
nt|kareno: You certainly can be right - and it simply cannot fetch.  The diamond is in the pocket but only doubleton and east would be ruffing, but not with a natural trump trick.|pg||
nt|kareno: Note that if east had three spades, it would make.  It's that close.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: joten pienen laskentahetken jälkeen jatketaan :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto varmaan kääntää ristisotilaan?|pg||
nt|bagman: vai pelaako pienen valtin?|pg||
nt|kaapo: Burnillä on useampikin laki. Toinen neuvoo vähentämään puuttuvien ässien määrän 8:sta - ja olemaan pelaamatta sillä tasolla|pg||
nt|maribelxx: http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/  -  suora linkki kisasivulle|pg||
nt|bagman: Pitäisiköhän käydä taas optikolla|pg||
nt|bagman: Taitaa tulla tasabrikka...|pg||
nt|wiki: miten nyt sanoisin.... täällä ei ole bangattu :)|pg||
nt|bagman: ai niin|pg||
nt|bagman: melkein tasabrikka|pg||
nt|wiki: siis 2 imp|pg||
nt|bagman: Tosin 3@C sopii Sundstenille oikein hyvin|pg||
pc|d4|nt|frankaus: 4th GF i expect|pg||
nt|apocalipse: may be the number of hearts :)|pg||
nt|frankaus: 3rd :)|pg||
nt|april7: 8 tricks for S|pg||
nt|sybarra: probably end in same place Vlad |pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
nt|april7: hi vladimir|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Avram|pg||
nt|april7: hi shirley|pg||
nt|xenya: there have been quite a few competitive auctions and interesting decisions at a high level so far|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Not a very taxing game to make|pg||
nt|bagman: Toisessa pöydässä on kuulemma sama sitoumus|pg||
nt|wiki: peliviejällä ei ole oikein hyviä juttuja tehtävänä|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejän pitää ottaa ässä nyt|pg||
nt|wiki: taitaa aina tulla turpaan|pg||
nt|maribelxx: sangissa voi olla ongelmia päästä hakemaan patoja, jos väri ei ihan läpikäyvä ole|pg||
nt|wiki: ruutukupp - ei sittenkään|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|jrssd: whatever it was, the 3C bid in the other room was more effective|pg||
nt|thegarve: must be all this aggressive bidding....|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS lost their @s partial|pg||
nt|ady: no    just on a 3-2 trump split|pg||
nt|daman: big chickens say bawk bawk bawk|pg||
nt|werge: But after Easts "friendly" double, 2 @S shows the hand|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Pienten teknisten hankaluuksien jälkeen pääsemme jatkamaan|pg||
nt|wiki: passannutta kättä vastaan Paganus tyytyi 3 @D|pg||
nt|wiki: mikä tietysti onkin oikein|pg||
nt|bagman: Herttaa ei voi arvata väärin joten tikkejä tulee 10|pg||
nt|bagman: menossa on AK ruutua ja @SA|pg||
nt|wiki: 300 ois 7 imppiä|pg||
nt|bagman: mutta paras puolustus on yleensä vain teoreettinen asia|pg||
nt|maribelxx: PM-kisat on siis edessä silloin, niille jotka voittavat karsinnan...:)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|caitlin: don't think so|pg||
nt|ahh: let the doubling commence |pg||
nt|kareno: Now diamonds.|pg||
nt|bagman: eikös 2IMP ole tasabrikka, jos vaihtoehtona on täyspeliswingi :)|pg||
nt|wiki: mä kävin optikolla, mut sain huonot lasit ja käytän taas vanhoja :)|pg||
nt|bagman: koska muuten tulee K, DA, kuppi, CA, ja ruutukuppi|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bagman: 6@C, 6@H ja 6NT|pg||
nt|mmmakela: avoimen huoneen 3 @S tarj oli kielletty alle 18 v|pg||
nt|wiki: tämä ei ole niin kivaa kuin padan peluu|pg||
nt|wiki: 8 tikkiin taitaa jäädä parhaimmillaan|pg||
nt|bagman: nippa-nappa|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bagman: Paganus pelkää, että lähtö on lyhyestä rististä. Muuten hän olisi jo pelannut @SA ja ristiä sakatakseen herttansa pois|pg||
nt|wiki: järvisen maski ei käynyt:(|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|kareno: Long matches are usually won on the rough and tumble of the partscore hands. Experts do not like to concede partscores.|pg||
nt|bagman: Jos partnerilla on ruutusingelton alunperin, ei kukaan partnerille lisää ruutuja anna eli kuppi säilyy|pg||
nt|wiki: ai, Niemi pelaa käännettyjä, mut Koivula ei|pg||
nt|wiki: siis Uskali nähdään huomenna klo 10|pg||
nt|bagman: Toisessa pöydässä pelataan 6@D|pg||
nt|wiki: Kiitokset kaikille, operaattorille Pekalle Kaapolle ja katselijoille ja Porvoon nimismiehelle|pg||
nt|wiki: no jos 6 ruutua menee kotiin niin sitten Arle jatkaa, mutta vaatinee patalähdön kurkon alta|pg||
nt|bagman: Tilanne onkin mielenkiintoinen... Meneekö 6@D kotiin toisessa pöydässä?|pg||
nt|bagman: 3NT ei olisi ilmeisesti riittänyt Arlelle|pg||
nt|wiki: ei, mutta eihän ne sitä tienneet :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Sitten toiseen pöytään; kiitokset kaikille|pg||
nt|bagman: voi tulla 9. tikki|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|caitlin: it's same as traditional 4@D|pg||
pc|dK|nt|xenya: and you've just got to balance as N i think -- a typical hand|pg||
nt|april7: On @D lead S has only 7 tricks.Why not leading p's suit?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: quite|pg||
nt|wiki: outo kääntö|pg||
nt|bagman: Ystävällinen puolustus: ruudun yliotto vei trumautus värin ja tämä kääntö antoi tempon|pg||
nt|wiki: ois voinut trumauttaa pelinviejää noin monella valtilla|pg||
nt|bagman: Tasabrikka tulossa|pg||
nt|wiki: hertta 10 on tietysti kiva|pg||
nt|bagman: tämä oli hyvä alku|pg||
nt|maribelxx: valttipelissä niistä padoista ainakin on hyötyä|pg||
nt|wiki: pataässä ristiässä ruutukuppi ässällä|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bagman: Tekninen virhe|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|bagman: Niemi ei yrittänyt sporttista kymppiä; niitäkin on joskus nähty|pg||
nt|wiki: tämän satsin viimeinen, joten pieni tauko jaehkä nuten Ruotsissa pikku fika|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä pelaa padan ässälle ja kuppaa padan|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jrssd: West was forced to own up to the singleton Spade at the end|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: in other room east followed up the 3 club bid by removing 3N|pg||
nt|jrssd: West isnt good enough to reverse|pg||
nt|frankaus: with 17 and a fit - maybe something other then 3NT after 3@H??|pg||
nt|maribelxx: tuloksia tulee sinne myös, kunhan kaikki ovat saaneet pelattua ja laskettua|pg||
nt|wiki: jos 2 imp on tasan niin 32 jaon matsissa on siis 64-0 15-15 ??|pg||
nt|bagman: suunnilleen|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jrssd: a spec points out the good decision was to go past 3N with 4D|pg||
nt|wiki: tod näk 11 tikkiä mano ottaa, kun hertta on 4-1|pg||
nt|bagman: korjataan skaala liigoihin|pg||
nt|wiki: sopii - liiganestaruus meille ???|pg||
nt|wiki: tosipelit jatkuvat hetjen kuluttua|pg||
nt|wiki: ja hetkenkin kuluttua - fika|pg||
nt|bagman: Kiitokset kaikille|pg||
nt|wiki: kiitos|pg||
nt|wiki: hyvä Pinja hienoa duunia|pg||
nt|bagman: Valtit pois ja hertan kasvatus|pg||
pc|h6|nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Tilanne helpottuu pelinviejälle|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|maribelxx: entäs tämä|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali ei voi selvittää kuin JTxx:n Honkavuorelta|pg||
pc|c9|nt|kareno: Agreed, Hans.  South is not forced to bid over that double.|pg||
nt|werge: Which means, that the double was very bad|pg||
nt|xenya: was a natural line, but a losing one|pg||
nt|kareno: It would make even if east had KQ doubleton in spades with the Qx of diamonds |pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kiitokset kaikille, erityisesti operaattorille!|pg||
nt|wiki: nyt näyttää jo mukavalta EWlle|pg||
nt|wiki: mikä 4 NT ois ollut?|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bagman: Tosin hertta+hertta laittaa pöydän kiinni|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kävi!|pg||
pc|c4|nt|wiki: hertta menee enää|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt pelinviejä tietää, että valtti ei ole pahasti|pg||
nt|bagman: Pohjoisella on vielä kuningas jäljellä|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä voi huoleti kupata, pelata valttiässän ja jatkaa padoilla|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|kareno: Now trump.|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt hän ottanee kuppinsa pöytään ja yrittää selviytyä valtista kahdella menevällä (joka on jo varmaan)|pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt sitten pelinviejä pelaa herttaässän ja miettii|pg||
nt|wiki: ruutunikkari huolehtii kuitenkin ruudusta|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|werge: WHAT NOW?|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejä selviää aika halvalla tästä|pg||
nt|bagman: Menossa on vielä ruutu ja valtti.|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Minä siirryyn katsomoon ja valmistautumaan illan pikkujouluihin, nähdään taas huomenna :)|pg||
nt|wiki: piettin sai|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bagman: Kiitokset kaikille. Tämä jako on lähes levitysvaiheessa.|pg||
nt|wiki: tai 2 NT|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: Declarer wants to lead spades from hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: There isn't a winning one.|pg||
nt|bagman: Niinpä. Piti ottaa 1. ruutu pöytään|pg||
nt|wiki: en ymmärrä pelinvientiä|pg||
nt|wiki: mutta hertan saa toki sakattua|pg||
nt|wiki: kallis on vain hinta|pg||
nt|maribelxx: kunhan pääsee käteen|pg||
nt|wiki: 12 imppiä yhdestä hertasta|pg||
nt|bagman: Värin käsittely piti aloittaa @CA edellä|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ahh: partner i bid @C ?|pg||
nt|kareno: I think it's going to come home now.|pg||
nt|xenya: declarer hoping for 3 trumps in the same hand as 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|bagman: @HK olisi tuonut 2 pietiä|pg||
nt|plateos: halpenee lisää|pg||
nt|kaapo: Juu, kohta jatkuu|pg||
nt|kaapo: Restart soon|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelinviejällä on silti asiat hyvin|pg||
pc|cA|nt|april7: E might be endplayed for 9th trick|pg||
nt|wiki: piti pelata K - pv ei kuitenkaan pääse maskaamaan...|pg||
pc|c5|nt|wilkinsona: if the 2N is natural showing values this may put south off|pg||
nt|wiki: @HK|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wiki: mut se ei välttämättä haittaa|pg||
nt|wiki: 5 imppiä eli 1 eroa:)|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|hedyg: it did|pg||
nt|wiki: tämä jakso 28-4 Uskalille |pg||
nt|bagman: Nyt olisi varaa pelata ristit ja ottaa @H8 coup en passant :)|pg||
nt|bagman: kotipeli tulossa melkoisen varmasti. Loppu menee erittäin jännäksi, koska vain IMP eroa|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|bagman: Pelinviejä saa väkisin vielä kaksi herttatikkiä|pg||
nt|bagman: levitys|pg||
nt|bagman: Uskali teki komean come backin|pg||
nt|bagman: Ensimmäisen jakson jälkeen tilanne näytti murheelliselta|pg||
nt|wiki: kaksi täyspeliswingiä saa ihmeitä aikaan|pg||
nt|bagman: ei taida olla väliä|pg||
pc|c8|nt|kaapo: Kiitokset Lealle!|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Lähetys jatkuu siis klo 16.45|pg||
nt|wiki: ai joo - sekin vielä|pg||
nt|wiki: Lea!!! mitäs niistä impeistä juteltiin|pg||
nt|maribelxx: :)|pg||
pc|s8|nt|kareno: Now the disappointment.  But not a surprise.|pg||
nt|bagman: joko tämän tai kaksi käteen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: ei päässyt, joten toinenkin pieti|pg||
nt|wiki: Olli! kun oots  siellä katsomossa niin päästään sitten pelaamaan skinejä Harjattulassa :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Ollia en eilen nähnytkään, terve vaan :)|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Muut senaattorit kyllä osallistuivat jälkipeleihin...|pg||
nt|wiki: np  :) jännää tulee juu|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Manoltakin sain nopeasti kysyttyä niistä eilisistä|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Heillä on siis vahva sangi, jossa ei saa olla 5kortin yläväriä...|pg||
nt|wiki: jaahas nää 8 menee tosi nopeasti, taas tauko|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Eikä gladiaattori ole mukana enää|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Tosiaan ihan perinteiseen malliin käytiin jakoja läpi Portissa|pg||
nt|wiki: 16 jakoa  vielä tai enää  ja uuden sadon parsa vain parantaa|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Jakomonisteetkin olivat kovin hyödyllisiä - niiden kääntöpuolella on hyvää tilaa piirtää jakoja :)|pg||
nt|wiki: liitolle pitää maksaa niistä euro jos käyttää jakoihin, tosin halvempia kuin pöytäliinat|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Se on varmaan se "vanhasta muistista" tapa, että helpompi on piirtää kuin ruveta tihrustamaan ja etsimään sitä jakoa, mistä halusi puhua|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Usein ravintolatiloissa kun on se valaistuskin hämärähkö|pg||
nt|maribelxx: mikäs se aikataulu olikaan?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: 8 jaon pelaamiseen saa kait kuitenkin sen tunnin ja vähän päällekin ehkä käyttää|pg||
nt|maribelxx: joten toinen pöytä voi pelata hitaasti ja huolellisestikin|pg||
nt|wiki: 26-10 asparagukselle tämä jakso|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt tulee vaan 10 tikkiä|pg||
pc|h9|nt|wiki: kannattaisin levitystä|pg||
nt|bagman: vaikka tulikin väärä arvaus, N on kohta kiinni ja antaa kotipelitikin|pg||
pc|h7|nt|daman: Teixeira is finally on the board|pg||
nt|ahh: i think the lead was poorl;y reasoned |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|april7: y|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|april7: no he should keep @S|pg||
nt|ahh: about as good as my spelling |pg||
nt|kareno: He could still have done it (a spec points out) by a club to the king and a diamond for the promotion.|pg||
nt|bagman: Koivisto voi levittää|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|kareno: Oh, my, east is trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.|pg||
nt|wiki: 6 ristin harmi ehkä näkyi|pg||
nt|bagman: vain IMP eroa!|pg||
nt|wiki: heido|pg||
nt|bagman: Kiitokset kaikille. Ainakin minä menen jännittämään avoimeen huoneeseen|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Kiitos - ei muuta kuin toiseen pöytään näkemään ratkaisu|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mmmakela: ?|pg||
nt|bagman: tulikin 11, laskuvirhe|pg||
nt|bagman: Tasabrikka ja tasatilanne ottelussa|pg||
nt|wiki: paitsi nyt|pg||
nt|bagman: nyt tulee pieti|pg||
pc|s5|nt|wiki: aha- tää olikin tässä ? moviessa loppu jaot - kohta varmaan lisää|pg||
nt|mmmakela: tauko?|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Sen verran systeemistä selvisi, että Uskali Sundsten pelaavat osittain Lahjattomien Einaria|pg||
nt|kaapo: Jep, pikku katko|pg||
nt|maribelxx: mutta vahva sangi|pg||
nt|bagman: Ottelu pelataan 8 jaon segmenteissä|pg||
nt|kaapo: Pelaajatkin voivat vaihtua jos sattuu :)|pg||
nt|bagman: Pelaajat varmaankin vaihtuvat, koska kummallakin joukkueella on 6 pelaajaa|pg||
nt|bagman: Parittomassa segmentissä Uskali on kotijoukkue ja parillisessa Arle|pg||
nt|bagman: Joukkue saa valita pelaajansa vapaasti jokaiseen segmenttiin|pg||
nt|bagman: Jossain sääntöversiossa kuitenkin jokaisen pelaajan piti pelata vähintään 1/3 jaoista|pg||
nt|maribelxx: Ohjelmassa ei varsinaista taukoa ole, mutta toiset pelaavat nopeammin kuin toiset, joten joudumme hetken odottelemaan|pg||
nt|vugraphzfx: Aloitetaan uudestaan kunhan pelaajat ovat laskeneet tulokset|pg||
nt|kaapo: Palaamme kohta astialle|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|h5|nt|werge: Did´nt E/W give away the @C-trick!?!|pg||
nt|kareno: But he fails.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: My guess is that the players are very tired now after all these boards.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|cT|pg||
nt|hedyg: Pedro can you pls tell us who is playing in East?|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SA92HJ7DK9763CK85,SKT83HQ52DJT82CQ4,SQ64HT643D4CT7632,SJ75HAK98DAQ5CAJ9|sv|o|nt|Walddk4: The boards were easier in the other room|pg||
nt|capercliff: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: time penalties now apply|pg||
nt|col3435: a diamond led in the other room - then there's less to think about|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: & for the other semi lol|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Give them 10 IMPs each and everyone is happy|pg||
mb|1N|nt|Walddk4: They can't distinguish if they are not being monitored|pg||
nt|capercliff: looks like the Hacketts made 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|garnetts: 1@D will keep Justin out|pg||
nt|capercliff: another A lead?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes @c lead|pg||
nt|odysseus69: club lead and thank you very much|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: poor Pat Collins keeps finding unfortunate leads|pg||
mb|2H|an|.|nt|eggy: may double 1Nt on the way out though?|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: whats the allowance per brd in this event?|pg||
nt|capercliff: 6?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: would need sto look it up match manager is in|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 60 for 8 boards I assume. They do not play with screens|pg||
nt|capercliff: yep|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bobh1: A major suit game is possible on this one|pg||
nt|capercliff: sellout at 1nt in other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: or 2H|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: 1NT pos with @s?|pg||
pc|c7|nt|garnetts: Not the right time here to double|pg||
nt|eggy: sub moysian fit then |pg||
nt|garnetts: K@S obvious I think|pg||
nt|yo_yo: so new leaders now|pg||
nt|mayors: Well north next door could have suit preferenced on the first round of trumps and then south would have found heart switch|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: restart 16:45|pg||
pc|c9|nt|bobh1: seems that W might be a little more aggressive assuming 2@c showed the majors|pg||
pc|cK|nt|garnetts: I do not know why I say things like that :(|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|col3435: yes it wasn't just the opening lead that let through 4@s in the other room - the defenders had plenty of chances|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes they had time to switch|pg||
nt|yo_yo: are they tiring i wonder|pg||
nt|yo_yo: is the collins team just 4?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes|pg||
nt|capercliff: or put the 10@c at trick 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: & all amateurs|pg||
nt|capercliff: instead of the 6|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|col3435: 2@c must be hearts and another|pg||
pc|dT|nt|eggy: maybe because it was?|pg||
nt|garnetts: but it should have cost if a heart had been led at trick two|pg||
nt|eggy: jason needss to persude the long trumps to ruff to have any chance|pg||
nt|garnetts: well he would have scrambled six tricks if he had played a heart|pg||
nt|eggy: well surely a trump now looks clear?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bobh1: or perhaps @c's and another|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I think H + another when we are in Astro-land|pg||
nt|capercliff: if it indicated @s W would have bid them|pg||
pc|s3|nt|garnetts: harder for Stuart than Gerald I think|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|nt|garnetts: why not another trump?  |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|bobh1: i thought astolites bid 1d with the majors|pg||
nt|garnetts: I think a low trump from three as a count would have been better than top|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes i see what you mean Margaret, it's a pro-am match|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Now gerald knows North hasnt A@S|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|eggy: too mean to risk his natural tricks I guess|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|Walddk4: 1@D over 1NT?|pg||
nt|eggy: Jason might have the count now?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: he wouldnt think if he had it|pg||
pc|d8|nt|garnetts: I also think that west might have expressed an opinion about 2@S |pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|nt|capercliff: asptro maybe?|pg||
nt|bobh1: 2d i mean|pg||
nt|eggy: but perhaps a spade & diamond could be switched|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
nt|eggy: presumably 1S was t/f to 1NT (11-13) and then 2H showed a balanced fit|pg||
pc|h8|nt|capercliff: there different variances|pg||
nt|capercliff: tx all|pg||
nt|capercliff: see you later|pg||
nt|bobh1: ok thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: bye for now|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|s5|nt|ralfwil: Overruff and @h|pg||
nt|eggy: looks like he will make 5 tricks now|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SA63HK76DQT2CKQJ6,SK85HJT8DJ763C954,SJ97HA93DA98CA832,SQT42HQ542DK54CT7|sv|e|nt|jrssd: if the partnership can still play 4N that seems relatively safe|pg||
nt|Walddk4: The par result achieved in the open room here|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They all did very well|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: another exciting hand|pg||
nt|jrssd: he was jammed - never got to "bid where he lived", in Clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Move your mouse over the open room and see the auction|pg||
nt|april7: its not really important but nice to do|pg||
nt|hedyg: or maybe a kind kib knows?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Its my friend jimmy East|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: Esmelinha|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: East|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: nearly|pg||
nt|ady: 8 tricks for e/w   n0-trumps|pg||
nt|daman: this hand won't be quiet|pg||
nt|werge: The East-hand will...|pg||
nt|daman: another rubber special|pg||
nt|xenya: it just feelsd it can be made legitimately...|pg||
nt|xenya: but i don't know how :)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|apocalipse: good save in OR|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 5@S by Castanheira was a nice bid|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: yep, like that 5 spades|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: East would defend it Im sure Avram|pg||
nt|april7: this will end up in 4@S or should|pg||
nt|xenya: the slam hand (20) has turned out to be flat -- same contract, same good lead|pg||
nt|frankaus: whre will this 1 land ?|pg||
nt|ahh: well last 2 boards probably cancel each other out |pg||
nt|kareno: Good slam here.|pg||
nt|kareno: I think it can be made on a legitimate but less appealing line.  |pg||
mb|2C|nt|frankaus: 7+4 = 11 :)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: and here it is again|pg||
nt|ady: tht something might happend  n/s grren against red|pg||
nt|frankaus: 6@H for me|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if normal "texas" saying we play 4H or i'm taking control of auction -- then East should have found some other auction to show mild slam try|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: same line too.... but why not the heart hook?|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT|pg||
nt|daman: 3NT here for NS|pg||
nt|xenya: an expected 5-imp pickup for Miguel Sousa on 23  |pg||
nt|ady: loevely minor|pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
mb|2D|nt|jrssd: 5N was the key bid in the OR|pg||
nt|apocalipse: The Law in action|pg||
nt|jrssd: this could be trouble|pg||
nt|apocalipse: difficult situation to E|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Santos can still save the bacon by bidding 5NT now|pg||
nt|frankaus: should know pd has no 1S |pg||
nt|wilkinsona: no chance|pg||
nt|xenya: 4@S was not doubled in the other room|pg||
nt|cuttysark: East has a reopening double - West may pass - should be interesting|pg||
nt|ahh: too strong for a splinter in my book |pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: S might bid 3@D and after 3@H will bid 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: jinx|pg||
nt|daman: you type too fast|pg||
nt|kareno: No higher though.|pg||
nt|frankaus: @C splinter is gr8 news for N|pg||
mb|3N|nt|caitlin: transfer first then bid 4@H|pg||
nt|pelu: X OK - but why sh West pas??|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, now his hand is golden.|pg||
nt|frankaus: 11|pg||
nt|kareno: Win the heart and duck a spade.  Wn the continuation, draw another round of trumps, run diamonds and AK of clubs, then the last trump for the throwin for a sluff ruff.|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: 5NT is a reasonable action|pg||
nt|apocalipse: I like W auction in OR|pg||
nt|jrssd: agree that if you are going to bid, 5N is best - keeps all options open|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ... that makes the 5N call other room look good..|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: the sac not really on at these colours|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|hedyg: light fingers|pg||
nt|ady: 2NT  leb?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 2NT would often be lebensohl - maybe this is one situation where you would prefer a natural meaning|pg||
nt|pelu: 3@D = the normal bid - Didny West see that his pd has passed in 2. hand??????????????????|pg||
nt|ady: best result    300|pg||
nt|daman: they missed the @S slam on Board 22 in the CR so Tadeu should recoup the slam swing and make it a 1 IMP difference|pg||
nt|werge: Clever bidding from West here - staying out|pg||
nt|daman: or maybe 2 IMPs|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: This round's pool is:  will the other table finish before we reach bd 30?|pg||
nt|xenya: i would have splintered as E here|pg||
nt|daman: I wonder    was 2@C   Gazilli>|pg||
nt|xenya: all very quiet in this room -- remains to make it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: yes, 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: what is N asking for?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: my guess is that North plans to lead his own suit :)|pg||
nt|werge: Still it looks strange to hide totally the @D-suit|pg||
nt|daman: sorry    got the teams mixed up    the slam swing went to Henriques   no 26-2|pg||
nt|daman: now*|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: S thinking,cards on the table,crossed arms|pg||
nt|werge: Good bidding non vul.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|wilkinsona: so 11 tricks, np|pg||
nt|sybarra: play should not take long |pg||
nt|daman: you use 2 thumbs and 8 fingers     I use 2 fingers      distinct disadvantage|pg||
pc|h3|nt|caitlin: I would not recommend a 1NT opener as West opened for novices:)|pg||
nt|daman: whack|pg||
pc|h5|nt|hedyg: thats what you think LOL|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He can't bid 2@D! that could be South's second suit!|pg||
nt|ahh: 2 and the trump queen |pg||
nt|werge: South is bidding better than North|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Or even 3@D|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: yes, standard would be 1N-2@D;2@H-4@H   or   when playing South African - now 3 ways to get to 4@H so just need to define different strengths|pg||
nt|werge: This will NOY make|pg||
nt|werge: NOT|pg||
nt|ahh: needs to ruff out the @D suit |pg||
nt|ahh: it can make  not the same as saying it will |pg||
nt|kareno: Needs to decide how to play the diamond suit.|pg||
nt|ahh: anyhow  am i old fashioned ?  whatever happened to trump leads to grand slams ?|pg||
nt|kareno: I think south expected the diamond king in north.  Perhaps a 5nt bid asking for an outside king would have helped them.|pg||
nt|kareno: I think a trump lead would actually be helpful to declarer this hand.|pg||
nt|ahh: is everybody bidding awful grand slams that need to be attacked ?|pg||
nt|werge: ¤ tricks and a total cross-ruff seems OK|pg||
nt|werge: 4 tricks|pg||
nt|daman: better lead a @S|pg||
pc|d3|nt|hedyg: there goes the @s lead|pg||
nt|daman: whew|pg||
nt|werge: Is one down even without the @S-lead|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, agree|pg||
pc|d8|nt|daman: Teixeiras now in the lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: i REALLY dont like the 3@c bid|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|hedyg: just giving opps info|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jrssd: I thk it's the East hand that makes 5N look good|pg||
nt|xenya: looks like an easy make as the cards lie, but declarer doesn't know the distribution...|pg||
pc|h6|nt|xenya: i think the auction was quite sensible|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Needs South to have @DA and @HKQ - not impossible|pg||
nt|daman: a @H lead would have been fatal|pg||
pc|hT|nt|xenya: perhaps he would have done better to accept the force|pg||
nt|kareno: One of these eams, Ana Tadeu, is playing four-handed.  Yesterday they played 64 boards!!  Tired is not the word for it.|pg||
nt|kareno: teams|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|jrssd: East didnt have to be nearly that good|pg||
nt|xenya: might have simplified our auction on different layouts (if we were stronger, for instance)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|frankaus: has fair chance to play on @D|pg||
nt|daman: no   it would make |pg||
nt|werge: No! stil only 10 tricks|pg||
nt|werge: still|pg||
nt|daman: well then I better have a look|pg||
nt|daman: yes   1@D and 2@C losers then|pg||
nt|yo_yo: good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|daman: was he any better off in 3NT?|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Kath|pg||
nt|yo_yo: You cant blame Dias for bidding game when his partner bids his 6 card suit|pg||
nt|daman: correct|pg||
pc|hA|nt|daman: what would you do if your partner bid 3@D over 3@C ?|pg||
pc|h4|nt|werge: But this board is dangerous - many West-players would bid 2 @S after 1 NT - and...|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|april7: that's an odd way to play the hand|pg||
nt|april7: preparing a cross ruff|pg||
nt|sybarra: has all the high spots |pg||
nt|april7: but it is still strange|pg||
nt|april7: ace of @S and @S|pg||
nt|sybarra: may get ace and @S now yes|pg||
nt|april7: but @H are 3-3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|hedyg: i would bid 3 NT|pg||
nt|daman: still bid 3NT or try for the @D game?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well depends on system, maybe the 2N can include a 5 card major...|pg||
nt|hedyg: a hand full of jacks opposite partners values|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|daman: I don't agree with the 3@C bid but it has a useful purpose |pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i think matchpoint players would have pushed EW a level higher|pg||
nt|frankaus: looks like Santos on the right track|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|pelu: what p?|pg||
nt|ady: I think east could have been a little weaker Vladimir   |pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|april7: no complete cross ruff, because 8 of @S away|pg||
pc|c6|nt|caitlin: particularly on a site like BBO it is very difficult to teach matchpoint strategy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or allow N to DBL 2@S  and have scramble mechanism to avoid playing 4-2 @D fit|pg||
pc|c9|nt|daman: can't include a 5 card major after opening 1@C|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ahh: lucky king down in 3 on this line |pg||
nt|kareno: This is the decision point and he has gotten it right.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|hedyg: he would have opened 1M i think, didnt see NS playing polish @c|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 3NT is too much, but may be his only sensible option if 2NT is lebensohl|pg||
nt|ahh: well done |pg||
pc|s4|nt|xenya: well in that case...|pg||
nt|daman: playing in 5@C rether than 3NT is the differnce between Dias and Noche|pg||
nt|werge: This became no dias-show...|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|daman: unless 1C is artificial|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|d2|nt|april7: not good eather if W doubleton @H|pg||
nt|xenya: ouch|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: best matchpoint strategy -- avoid it and play imps :)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: not a strong club then?|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|hedyg: and obviously not playing strong @c or would rebid 1NT|pg||
pc|dA|nt|daman: moins deux|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure that is spanish |pg||
pc|d4|nt|daman: french     2 down|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pg||
nt|april7: a hard way N went|pg||
nt|pelu: even if pd has 5 card @H -I will play 3NT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|xenya: apparently W didn't think E could be weaker|pg||
nt|pelu: ddo u need to use Lebensohl opp a passed pd?|pg||
nt|pelu: for sure he couldnt be stonger :) (and Pass)|pg||
nt|kareno: Needed to play lowBut it is north who will be endplayed.  HE needed to cash that heart first.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|xenya: 10-11|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Probably not, but not everyone has discussed their defence to the 2-suited 2-opener in enough detail|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SA63HK76DQT2CKQJ6,SK85HJT8DJ763C954,SJ97HA93DA98CA832,SQT42HQ542DK54CT7|sv|e|nt|vugraphzdc: welcome back all|pg||
nt|ady: hi all|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: thks to fiona for subbing for me last set|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: i had to go fix a computer|pg||
nt|ady: 5C! for e/w    they may try 4! 4-3 fit|pg||
nt|ady: 4 spades|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello everyone from a misty Manchester|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: Welcome back everyone|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|daman: S will have to guess @Ds eventually unless the opps do it for him|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|mayors:  Expect Burn to take the double @d finesse|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|daman: may as well duck this|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|ady: hi Kath|pg||
nt|daman: nothing ti gain   othing to lose|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ahh: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Morning Kath, Jim and David|pg||
nt|yo_yo: so the Collins team have a slight lead  and the twins are back after their lie-in|pg||
nt|ady: hi Jim    Roland|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|nt|daman: and my keyboard is wonky|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello everyone |pg||
nt|yo_yo: i am confused by the names|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Two Burns playing?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not unless he got married|pg||
nt|Walddk4: One must be either Malinowski or Sandqvist|pg||
nt|yo_yo: is Janet playing?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Bob Heitzman|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hi bob|pg||
nt|Walddk4: She is, but not with David|pg||
nt|bobh1: thx Roland hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Margaret?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Please give Burn a partner other than Burn|pg||
nt|yo_yo: ahha|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: sorry guyd|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: guys|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes|pg||
nt|ady: continu hearts best   but should still make|pg||
nt|yo_yo: here we see a relatively new pairing of David Burns and Nick Sandquist|pg||
nt|ahh: De botton team hampered by the artistic differences suffered by Sandqvist and Malinowski |pg||
nt|ady: have done well  as 5@C fails|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|yo_yo: well here as East we have the great David Burn|pg||
pc|c9|nt|yo_yo: artistic?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|yo_yo: wonderful commentator on vugraph|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahh: its what they say when pop bands split up |pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|yo_yo: i wish I could think of such witty comments as he comes out with|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|Walddk4: But he can actually play too|pg||
nt|daman: he might double finesse the @Ds now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|yo_yo: you mean when they fall out|pg||
nt|daman: tah dah|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ahh: exactly |pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|mayors: Well a @s switch would have been uncomfortable, but in practice defenders continue the suit.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAJ873HAK85DACQJ6,S9H7643DQ93CA8432,SKT64H2DKT74CKT95,SQ52HQJT9DJ8652C7|sv|b|nt|caitlin: agree:)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Matchpoints are too tough, you have to think about *every* hand.|pg||
nt|caitlin: but they go to live clubs which is almost always matchpoints|pg||
nt|jrssd: perhaps West intended 5N as a two way action, save over 5S or makiing|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: strong NT lost board 23|pg||
nt|april7: this will be interesting  how high they go in @C|pg||
nt|april7: then trump lead will be best|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: no prob for NS then|pg||
nt|ady: there is some guesswork|pg||
nt|pelu: 10 HCP + a singleton - with 11 + a singleton I wouldopen|pg||
nt|werge: But East could (should) have played his last trump|pg||
nt|xenya: should have cashed the @HK then endplayed W|pg||
nt|xenya: pity|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: director come and said this table is 2 boards behind|pg||
nt|xenya: but still +2 imps|pg||
nt|werge: hhh|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: still got to get to clubs... these 4th suits can be tricky|pg||
nt|yo_yo: here's an unlucky 4@H|pg||
nt|werge: Discipline pass from East - bravo!|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes  |pg||
nt|werge: 4 @H seems makeable here|pg||
nt|kareno: Is this the full total of IMPs or only this set?  What is the score now?|pg||
mb|1C|nt|cuttysark: East does not seem to share your views, Peter|pg||
nt|ahh: all fans of 1nt ?|pg||
nt|daman: my mother would open a weak 2|pg||
nt|daman: the rest of the world would pass|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: then they have to touch dirty cards -- we just touch dirty touchpad|pg||
nt|mdgraham: might be hard to get to clubs, say after 1@D-1@H-1@S|pg||
nt|april7: NS might even end up in 2@H:1@D-1@H-1@S-2@H--- but then 3@D by S|pg||
nt|xenya: true Tony, i don't think they'll get to @Cs|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.quintonaipe.com/fed08/norte/eqopen.html  is the link to results after round 1|pg||
nt|april7: 3@C by S and 3@D ofcourse|pg||
nt|hedyg: was maybe just practicing the system :)|pg||
nt|thegarve: another routine 3NT|pg||
nt|xenya: maybe he had a doubleton @H?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Agreed - he could surely be 4234|pg||
nt|kareno: Not here.  Not with an easy hand to bid.|pg||
nt|werge: Absolutely NOT - S has no bidding problems by opening 1 @D|pg||
nt|ahh: 1@D 2@S would appear to describe your hand adequately|pg||
nt|kareno: If the spades and hearts were reversed, yes.|pg||
nt|kareno: 2@s?|pg||
nt|sybarra: Not mine,  has other 4 card major,  didnt you teach her well George?|pg||
nt|werge: Not your grand-mother...|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not sure if the rest of the world would |pg||
nt|daman: she taught me|pg||
nt|werge: OR saw S open 4 @H - thus getting no info about the opponents|pg||
mb|2H|nt|yo_yo: lot's dont mind 4 of the other major, if it's weak|pg||
nt|daman: is 3@D everybody's choice of bid?|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: ah, we didn't spot the 1@S overcall|pg||
nt|daman: or  1@D?|pg||
nt|sybarra: or 4@D?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not 1 anyway|pg||
nt|daman: 4 is a bit rich but not out of the quaetion|pg||
mb|2S|nt|wilkinsona: chance for clubs now|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed Mike|pg||
nt|daman: question*|pg||
nt|werge: Pass is my option, let them bid 3 NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: I think you dream re 3 nt |pg||
nt|daman: pass is a losing option    better for games at the club or in the relaxed room|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: all predictions wrong|pg||
nt|xenya: still i vote for 3N as the final contract here|pg||
nt|april7: best is now X!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: North may have downgraded that @CQJ doubleton - may lead to a missed game|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H ok    but there is 18 and 4 card heart support   maybe can do something now|pg||
nt|werge: Now N/S has told E/W: Do´nt bid 4 @H this time|pg||
nt|yo_yo: that's true|pg||
nt|daman: getting S involved in the auction might keep EW out of game|pg||
nt|werge: I see 620 coming up|pg||
mb|3H|nt|kareno: North happily passes.|pg||
nt|sybarra: still opting for 4 @D here|pg||
nt|sybarra: not now of course|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW must have agreement that takeout double guarantees majors, but not unbid minors|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: and a tricky contract that will be too|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Unusual sequence!|pg||
nt|ady: caught up|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ahh: this is a flaw in  2@D for the majors |pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: N-s don't seem to play "all good hands start with xx".  I approve.|pg||
nt|hedyg: @d lead?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: now to defeat it :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|april7: but only on @C lead, but W will lead @S.S want to go on, oh my g'd|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4th from longest and strongest|pg||
nt|daman: routine may not be the adjective I was thinking of|pg||
nt|pelu: in my book -both bids wrong !|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: defence defeated 4 spades with a diamon ruff OR|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so much for not getting to clubs|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: not that tricks wont be needed here also|pg||
mb|4D|nt|xenya: covering my face in shame...|pg||
nt|april7: I only we will see how high?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: surely a case for a trump lead with those diamonds|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: nice friendly lead though|pg||
nt|april7: is this tournament high class players?|pg||
nt|werge: OK 500|pg||
nt|kareno: Or possibly 200|pg||
nt|kareno: Or minus 100 :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that questionable [at best] double has probably given away the trump trick|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ..this seems to let it home|pg||
nt|hedyg: must get the @cs right|pg||
nt|daman: KJx of @C offside and it fails|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I suppose South might have opened with 5hearts and a 4card minor - and opponents have been silent, so he must have a little something|pg||
nt|xenya: double transfer break here?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: that should do it|pg||
nt|werge: How could you avoid four loosers, killing the third round of @S|pg||
mb|4S|nt|sybarra: something to be said for partnership harmony lead pard's suit?|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: may have been reflecting on not leading pards suit on that earlier hand|pg||
nt|werge: This is a friendly match - no double|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: but Poker is very popular now :)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|daman: mind you....my mother would be in it|pg||
nt|werge: North should play the @H Q here|pg||
pc|c5|nt|cuttysark: 'Sorry partner, I miscounted my points'|pg||
nt|daman: sayonara|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|jrssd: Garozzo was right "lead the singleton"|pg||
nt|mdgraham: perhaps aftr bord 24 West thought he had better lead his parrtner's suit |pg||
nt|hedyg: is that a recommendation?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ahh: if you bid 2@C for the majors  with no STRONG preference p can bid 2@D and you bid the better suit |pg||
pc|c9|nt|april7: yes that could be the reason|pg||
nt|werge: Good sacrifice - 140 easy for E/W|pg||
pc|s2|nt|apocalipse: 12 Imp's to Sofia now and again a tied match|pg||
nt|xenya: anyway it should make|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|sybarra: and he speaks japanese also :)|pg||
nt|kareno: It's hard to double for either hand.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|santyclz: Wd, punishment meted out.|pg||
nt|frankaus: its no value to argue with garozzo|pg||
nt|jrssd: The Dia lead gives you two chances - you may score 2 natural trump tricks, or you may get a ruff in to score 2 trump tricks|pg||
nt|daman: it is|pg||
nt|werge: Sorry, your parter opened, and you have 9 HCP, included @S A-Q BEHIND the hand, who doubled 1 @H - come on|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: 2nd round 9@S probably better falsecard than 1st round|pg||
nt|caitlin: would he really fall for it with X?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|wilkinsona: this leaves east to exit|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|kareno: Heart|pg||
pc|sA|nt|daman: major swing to Teixeira on Board 7|pg||
pc|s9|nt|yo_yo: 3@D might have pushed EW too high|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|daman: made 4@S doubled on the 4-3|pg||
mc|11|nt|frankaus: yes - multi landy or woolsey does it well|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAJ873HAK85DACQJ6,S9H7643DQ93CA8432,SKT64H2DKT74CKT95,SQ52HQJT9DJ8652C7|sv|b|nt|yo_yo: Milinowski, great player from some eastern european country|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Has represented England on several occasions in the past|pg||
nt|yo_yo: he is indeed a great player|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: David tried to sit in wrong seat sorry|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i suppose we see that all the time in the bridge world|pg||
nt|ahh: i want to play rock i want to play hip hop  or i want to play precision  i want to play acol |pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: not you or I of course |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahh: even i could destroy 3nt by east |pg||
mb|4S|nt|yo_yo: i had the privilege of playing with him on OKBridge in the past|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Malinowski ir originally from Poland, then left for Norway before settling in London|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: ned to rotate auction |pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello again everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: not sure how they stopped short of game with 28 pts in the other room|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|yo_yo: I wouldnt like to bid 4@S with 3 kings and a singleton but maybe ok with them|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Walddk4: And is now the co-manager of TGRs in London|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|yo_yo: yes  i believe so|pg||
nt|Walddk4: TGR = The Great Rose (rubber bridge club)|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahh: Hacketts not used to bidding lots when they actually have points ?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|mc|11|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SJ74HQDQT854CAQJ3,SAQ86HA532D96C654,SKT32H8DAK2CT9872,S95HKJT9764DJ73CK|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: 1st round 9 automatic when either player could hold Jxxx -- but in this case west known to have 3 or 4|pg||
nt|xenya: well bid for sure|pg||
nt|hedyg: he opened 1@H with 4 cards in 3rd seat like George suggested|pg||
nt|thegarve: very poor defence let it home|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: for those interested in Raptor followups -- also check http://home.san.rr.com/danajohn/john/sp-sum.html Raptor   [thanks John!]|pg||
nt|santyclz: I've started, when playing against good player, not playing the 9 from j9xx since they know I'd play it if I had 4.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D-1@S; 2@C-?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Roland is howling as we discuss raptor:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if only he had a grave to turn in :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot really call it poor that S thinks his partner had 5 @hs|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i assume screens are in use here -- can anyone confirm?|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes they are|pg||
nt|sybarra2: I am sure they are|pg||
nt|frankaus: 4@H seems somewhat exuberant|pg||
nt|april7: a partscore in @C by S but 4@S by EW|pg||
mb|1S|nt|wilkinsona: trap sequence in OR sent NS overboard on 24|pg||
nt|april7: again trump lead breaks it|pg||
nt|sybarra: can almost make 5 @C |pg||
nt|xenya: it's an ugly 1N bid|pg||
nt|xenya: what do you think?|pg||
nt|kareno: I don't see the reason for that bid.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|jrssd: the OR bidding looks strange|pg||
nt|frankaus: 2NT ? now @S fot LR +?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: seems that way, but an acurate defence to 4 spades may be needed|pg||
nt|thegarve: North could have cashed the first two tricks...|pg||
nt|werge: But in board 26 - if you try to cash two @D-tricks, 4 @H is COLD!|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do you remember the old days where having 4 aces in NT gave you 150 for honours?|pg||
nt|werge: - og was...|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: fit|pg||
nt|jrssd: especially 4D|pg||
nt|sybarra: or make it |pg||
nt|xenya: on 25, 3N was also bid in the other room, but no-one dared to double|pg||
nt|werge: What is their 1 @C-opening?|pg||
mb|p|nt|apocalipse: 2NT is the good raise in @S|pg||
nt|pelu: no but yjrn would @H cost a trumf - and that is also fine for defense !!!|pg||
nt|ady: puppet?|pg||
nt|ahh: drury and game ?|pg||
nt|werge: or|pg||
nt|daman: I remember|pg||
mb|d|nt|wilkinsona: hes had practice|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|daman: I didn't suggest it   thegarve did|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: yes|pg||
nt|ady: thx|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: 2@d only denies 5 card major |pg||
nt|frankaus: link to woolsey http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/Conventions/WoolseyDefenseTo1NTOpenings.html|pg||
nt|sybarra: do we have to admit this?|pg||
nt|daman: never got to claim them though    especially at rubber|pg||
nt|daman: never held them|pg||
nt|yo_yo: no, it was always  "they"|pg||
nt|daman: exactly|pg||
nt|kareno: Easy rebids, easy raises.  It's a mixed pair 1NT bid.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hedyg: he must have thought W had 5 @ss|pg||
nt|kareno: Even if it is a forcing 1@c this hand would fit.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: okok, sry George|pg||
nt|daman: I said he shd pass     |pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: West certainly had nothing extra!|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: may or may not have 4 card major|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: sryyyyyyyyyyyyyy|pg||
nt|pelu: again Hedy .)|pg||
nt|daman: I'm not whining :)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: my kind of contract, this|pg||
nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|ady: well doned     get the maximum for the defence|pg||
nt|daman: a lot of work to do in game|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i count 4.5 points for an Ace, does anyone else?|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: i am :(|pg||
nt|daman: habits of as lifetime? :)|pg||
nt|xenya: as long as @Ss are 4-3, Liz?|pg||
nt|sybarra: and in rubber bridge, those points above the line counted also |pg||
nt|daman: but things lie not too badly for declarer|pg||
nt|werge: No good lead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: only because spades break 4-3|pg||
nt|ahh: lead is good for the defence|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i like 2@D -- especially good if partner has max with 3@S|pg||
nt|daman: nope|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|april7: good defense agianst 4@S, which not have been made on @S lead|pg||
nt|pelu: 3 x @C now|pg||
nt|werge: @S is better - for the defence|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|xenya: should be down 1 on accurate defence...|pg||
nt|ahh: north now has an entry for @D attack|pg||
pc|sA|nt|kareno: Duck might have been better to keep north off lead.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|wilkinsona: its on now|pg||
nt|xenya: ouch|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: off again no unblock|pg||
nt|xenya: S should have unblocked in @Hs, but was it easy for him to read the whole position?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: no - why should West have four hearts as well as six spades?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: has thinking about it now, sadly|pg||
nt|kareno: But declarer gets the hearts right!|pg||
nt|daman: maybe @SK  but declarer would duck|pg||
pc|c6|nt|werge: Have to leave - back to-morrow|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: but if partnership will bid 1@D 2@C with 4@D 5@C -- very scary|pg||
nt|caitlin: West could have had 5@C  4@D|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol:)|pg||
nt|santyclz: That assumes "prepared bidding" which has gone out of style.|pg||
nt|caitlin: or as pointed out could be 5-5 minors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think 1345 has chance to lie with 1N rebid, but 3145 after 1@C-1@H is stuck so that hand more likely to 'canape'|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes indeed, if they cash 5 spades it is not so good - but than I could not make any game|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|xenya: and why should he play to cater for a 3-0 trump split at that stage?|pg||
nt|daman: the @DK from dummy was unfortunate   cannot make now|pg||
pc|hK|nt|wilkinsona: dummy has riches but this will nead care|pg||
nt|thegarve: prefer wine to whine|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|ady: there is no better contract|pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks Hans :)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|sybarra2: well unless I can reverse  I will open 4@D 5@C, with 1 @D|pg||
nt|sybarra2: but then I am probably old fashioned |pg||
nt|ahollan1: or 3145 must raise after 1@C-1@S;2@S   [I love to raise on 3]|pg||
nt|werge: Knowing the position, - take in hand and play a @C, but West could have a doubleton|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|mdgraham: now a chance|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s4|nt|caitlin: with singleton yes|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: i've always been a 1@D opener with 45 -- but i'm starting to reconsider|pg||
nt|santyclz: That's a guillotine offense in some country that won't be named.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: aaaah|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jrssd: South shd have played the KC on the 1st lead|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: so 4 hearts a good save vs 3 spades really|pg||
nt|mdgraham: oh well|pg||
nt|sybarra: pooh|pg||
nt|kareno: I don't know why declarer didn't just play the heart jack to keep communications easier.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|xenya: has worked out fine though, it seems -- so perhaps it's not the last time S opens 1N on this type of hand |pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahh: cant make now |pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: samurai canape :)|pg||
nt|jrssd: it prob wont cost, but it Could|pg||
nt|hedyg: @s to ace|pg||
pc|h6|nt|daman: now @SK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|hedyg: and another|pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: hmm|pg||
nt|thegarve: needed to ruff the @d first|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SJ74HQDQT854CAQJ3,SAQ86HA532D96C654,SKT32H8DAK2CT9872,S95HKJT9764DJ73CK|sv|o|nt|yo_yo: Erichsen is another import i believe|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Yes, Norway|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Hydes I dont know|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: and Sandqvist, sitting out in this set, is from Sweden|pg||
nt|ahh: will east come in after 1@H 2@H ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: re|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SK8764HTDQJ653CAT,SJ5HAKQ64DK74CJ87,SAQT92H93DAT82CQ3,S3HJ8752D9CK96542|sv|n|nt|wilkinsona: well, if heart K right could gain|pg||
nt|april7: lets see what will hapen in OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: some discussion|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: turns out more chance for the defence to ruff in with the heart ten|pg||
nt|thegarve: could have eloped all the trumps past West|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Another hihg-level competitive board|pg||
nt|werge: He had one looser in each side suit|pg||
nt|werge: And his partner could relax|pg||
nt|xenya: and a new leader now|pg||
nt|werge: West has a 1 NT...|pg||
mb|1N|nt|wilkinsona: this looks a spectacular result NS OR|pg||
nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Do the Finals start tonight?|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: only 3@H by E|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, 3@D by W? -- yes|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Don't believe South will pass|pg||
nt|xenya: e should bid something perhaps?|pg||
nt|xenya: say 3N?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, but what?|pg||
nt|werge: Easy 450 here - coffee|pg||
mb|2S|nt|hedyg: multi 2@d|pg||
nt|xenya: 4@D is classic|pg||
nt|pelu: would u all pass on Ns hand?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 5@D is asking to be doubled|pg||
nt|xenya: i would|pg||
nt|kareno: LOL no honor in clubs though|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 11 tricks  in spades    -6@D  -800|pg||
nt|xenya: i don't think so Karen|pg||
mb|2N|nt|jrssd: yes, West shifted to a Heart when in with the DK|pg||
nt|hedyg: unusual 4@H bid|pg||
nt|thegarve: 4@h is a transfer to 4@s|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: might work yet|pg||
nt|hedyg: most players use 4@c asking partner to transfer his suit or 4@d asking him to bid it|pg||
nt|pelu: no pass/correct|pg||
nt|daman: N must bid|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I would pass first time round - but I would certainly double at the second chance|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Wow, 5@S is a big, bold, bad bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: but with best play 5D is unbeatable|pg||
nt|ahh: this is a brutal hand |pg||
nt|frankaus: NS have a significant lead |pg||
nt|yo_yo: tempting to bid 3NT but I hope he doesnt|pg||
nt|daman: 9 more to Henriques on the 5@C doubled hand    they rested in 3@C in the OR   making|pg||
nt|daman: pulling awat    Tadeu have to find a way to stop the bleeding|pg||
nt|werge: In my "club", East has an easy 2 @S-bid|pg||
nt|daman: away*|pg||
mb|3C|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Marshall Lewis|pg||
nt|marlowepi: hello portugal|pg||
nt|thegarve: I mean that wwhenever oneside jumps to 4@H the other uses it as a n xfer to 4@s|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 3@C looks OK if it's forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: 3@H by E nonforc. and pass by W|pg||
nt|daman: 2NT was not on my radar screen|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: the Weak NTs in the OR haven't worked out well for EW|pg||
nt|apocalipse: hi Marshall|pg||
nt|jrssd: Hi Marshall|pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day marshall|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: hi Marshall|pg||
nt|pelu: so u would pass 3@D and X over 5@D - ??|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes - why not?|pg||
nt|ady: thats punishing partner who is under pressure|pg||
nt|ahh: with the grand still to be played |pg||
nt|kareno: So the teams that win the semi finals can rest a while before they have to play again|pg||
mb|p|nt|april7: on a @C opening E's hand is worth 3@H|pg||
nt|daman: blocked himself from the auction|pg||
nt|xenya: next weekend possibly?|pg||
nt|xenya: but i don't know|pg||
nt|xenya: January, i'm told|pg||
pc|hT|nt|marlowepi: howdy to roland, tony, luis, frank, john & specs|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: welcome to Portugal where they bid em up|pg||
nt|marlowepi: N catering to 5-5 in S hand|pg||
nt|jrssd: but I thk it's too dangerous|pg||
nt|marlowepi: E also sailing close to the wind with his sequence|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: certainly exciting auctions both rooms|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: E bidding to the level of his fit|pg||
nt|marlowepi: close for N, who has a useful hand facing a hand that can make a red-on-green TOX with both opps bidding and pd so far silent|pg||
nt|frankaus: does S know 4@S is failing|pg||
nt|xenya: so E's 5@D has worked beautifully|pg||
nt|werge: The you might miss the information, whether West has a 6-card @S.|pg||
nt|kareno: 4@c is good news and bad news for east - his clubs are too strong opposite a singleton (the bad news) but his partner has a strong hand (the good news).|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|pelu: the hand with distribution sh X - now N has polpaced himself between to chairs - punish pd for bidding! - Then fixed - stay fixed!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Can he establish clubs and make this?|pg||
nt|xenya: um -- good question Liz|pg||
nt|daman: I agree Hans|pg||
nt|werge: Can West not have a @S-singleton now|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|ady: South hSouth might be able to do something with the clubs|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamond now makes sense|pg||
pc|c7|nt|frankaus: dont expect this will make|pg||
nt|ahh: a bit agricultural but  hard to blame east too much|pg||
nt|kareno: But his void in diamonds isn't really helping matters.|pg||
nt|ahh: maybe 2@D should warn him off  but there will loads of hands where slam rolls in |pg||
nt|kareno: Down two?  three?|pg||
nt|kareno: And there are lots of bids between 3NT and 6NT :)|pg||
nt|frankaus: down 3 is a relief as games fail :)|pg||
nt|kareno: I think 3NT makes.  |pg||
nt|kareno: 4 hearts, three spades, one and one.|pg||
nt|ahh: somrthing i have noticed is we all are happy to bid to 5 of a major making slam tries  but nobody bids the same way over 3nt  its either pass or blast |pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|frankaus: now N protects|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|april7: S has to cash Ace of @S early|pg||
nt|ahh: here 4nt  as an invite would have worked well as west passes|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ady: not that way|pg||
nt|kareno: This one is hopeless.|pg||
nt|yo_yo: the trump suit is fortunate |pg||
nt|xenya: the contract can be set via a @S ruff, of c ourse, but far from easy|pg||
pc|s5|nt|daman: lucky|pg||
nt|sybarra: never is for me :(|pg||
nt|yo_yo: nor me :)|pg||
pc|sA|nt|cuttysark: I think he is an entry short - neede Axx|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|frankaus: another good decision by S|pg||
nt|jrssd: playing for penalties is good here; there is no guarantee whatsoever that NS have a game|pg||
nt|marlowepi: E should not despair of chances to beat 4H. his diamond holding is a sure trick and he might even get a club ruff, and his pd has opened the bidding. shape and honor structure too ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: soft to expect 4S to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: cash A@D and play @s|pg||
nt|ahh: but we are all blackwood obsessed|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: Ahh.. the most abused convention in bridge.  I tell my students Blackwood is not the way to show a good hand :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: courtain came down and Neves is asking Santos|pg||
nt|kareno: It should be used to stay OUT of slams and should be used only when the count of aces is useful, in other words, NOT when you hold Qx or worse in any one suit.|pg||
nt|frankaus: where does gerber rate ?|pg||
pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|h4|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: sure, NS cant legislate for the amazing OR score|pg||
nt|thegarve: consistent in his passive approach|pg||
nt|ahh: banned |pg||
nt|kareno: It's similarly abused but less frequently.|pg||
nt|kareno: Correctly assuming south would not lead a heart from Qxx|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|cuttysark: Had he crossed to hand to play low ti the ten, now, he could continue with the king|pg||
nt|daman: but they might get them separately because he will play to ruff @Hs|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|ady: dont thik he can ever make     nededed to be in hand at tgrick 1   then possible|pg||
nt|daman: still should make game|pg||
nt|werge: This cobntract, you should just play !A and more ! - I think|pg||
nt|werge: @S Ace|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, that's right|pg||
nt|werge: You just need trumps 3-2|pg||
mc|8|nt|jrssd: East can suspect that 4H is a Moysian (4-3) fit, too|pg||
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qx|c12|st||md|2SK8764HTDQJ653CAT,SJ5HAKQ64DK74CJ87,SAQT92H93DAT82CQ3,S3HJ8752D9CK96542|sv|n|nt|Walddk4: Takes a diamond guess to make 5@C. Justin misguessed|pg||
nt|ady: collins pulling away  |pg||
nt|ahh: brave try  but a little pushy in auction |pg||
nt|yo_yo: a little?|pg||
nt|ahh: need to bring De Botton back into play |pg||
nt|yo_yo: you would feel sick to open this and opps bid to a making game|pg||
nt|mayors: which they can do E/W can make 5 of a minor|pg||
nt|daman: looks as if 4@S is on for NS|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|daman: should have no problem getting there|pg||
nt|mayors: 6@s with the aid of @d finesse|pg||
mb|5H|mb|5S|nt|yo_yo: i was wondering if he would bid 5@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: swish|pg||
pc|d9|nt|daman: making 6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|ahh: hi all |pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Jim Hay|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Jim|pg||
nt|yo_yo: re jim  are you in peebles?|pg||
mc|13|nt|Walddk4: I would open 1@H as East in 3rd whether I play 5-card majors or not|pg||
nt|benjy: I am surprised no 1@H opener in 3rd position at this vul|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Ben?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Oh, you agree|pg||
nt|benjy: :) of course, it's completely normal|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not to me its not|pg||
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qx|o13|st||md|3SJ74HJ43DAKT7CJ53,S83H9DQJ9852CAKQ9,SKQT962HA82D64C87,SA5HKQT765D3CT642|sv|b|nt|wilkinsona: so just 3 imps in it|pg||
nt|sybarra: on bd 27 they tried 6 @C in the other room!|pg||
nt|ady: bring down Q98@C|pg||
nt|xenya: but declarer played for a different layout in @Cs -- also quite reasonable |pg||
nt|daman: @H partscore for EW now|pg||
nt|kareno: Weak notrump in north :)|pg||
nt|werge: A lot of them...|pg||
nt|xenya: well my philosophy is that if you are clever enough to play such a trick on me, you deserve to be rewarded|pg||
mb|2D|nt|xenya: http://www.quintonaipe.co/fe08/norte/eqopen.html is the link to results after round1|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: ok wasnt obvious but 10x in @H surely was useless|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Sudden run of scores for Sofia: miguel missed game on board 26|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Awkward bid for South|pg||
nt|xenya: again? -- he had one on the previous hand...|pg||
nt|daman: they might slither into game if pushed|pg||
nt|kareno: The ace of spades is simply not a reasonable lead from that south hand (without mirrors, of course).|pg||
nt|xenya: i meant leading small from Qxx|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahh: 3@C opener will strike gold|pg||
nt|kareno: Tough bid for west.|pg||
nt|ahh: 4@H will do opposite passed partner|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do we like that NT opener?|pg||
nt|daman: words cannot express what I think of opening 1NT with the North hand|pg||
mb|3D|nt|marlowepi: S needs to bid here|pg||
nt|yo_yo: force yourself  George :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|cuttysark: 3@H seems rather pointless - will stop them leading hearts|pg||
nt|kareno: North's not done|pg||
nt|daman: it works every now and then but it fails most of the time|pg||
mb|3H|nt|sybarra2: responsive ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now here's a responsive double i understand -- last set use confused me|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 5@D might have made if he had bashed it|pg||
nt|ahh: 5@C is routine  now the real problems start for west |pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, that.  I cannot imagine leading from Qxx of trumps|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: 2D is multi (or Wagner), showing a weak 2 in either major|pg||
nt|thegarve: pass over 1S is a losing call long term|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: now 3@H?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: his pd rates to be short in spades and thus likely to provide a good dummy for hearts. if S passes it will be very hard to know what to do later, if there is a later|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: who is this Wagner?|pg||
nt|jrssd: 2S is "pass or correct (to Hearts, if that is your suit)"|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Kaplan Inversion over 1@H, as it is called in the USA |pg||
nt|daman: i agree|pg||
nt|ady: too much bidding     bid 5@D  and put pressure on lead|pg||
nt|yo_yo: it's working now i think|pg||
mb|p|nt|cuttysark: South neede a spade lead to justify his bidding|pg||
nt|ahh: 7@H went down next door on bd 9 |pg||
pc|s4|nt|hedyg: double was fine|pg||
nt|kareno: oooooh!!|pg||
nt|frankaus: thats an unexpexted choice|pg||
nt|daman: yes, it is   unfortunately|pg||
pc|s8|nt|vugraphzdx: brazilien @sdish, here :)|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jrssd: Wagner is 2D wo any strong options, like big balanced hands or 3 suiters|pg||
nt|april7: or they play flannery, thats why 1@S must be 5|pg||
nt|Walddk4: ????|pg||
nt|Walddk4: The F-word!!!????|pg||
nt|sybarra: this might have played better from W |pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: no 1@s is 0-4@s f1 (instead of the regular 1NT f1)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: oh dear....an offence has been committed|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|thegarve: now he should back in over 2S with a double|pg||
pc|d6|nt|frankaus: i dont like 2@D with this hand|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: tada|pg||
nt|sybarra2: nice flop for declarer |pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: will try to avoid the working club finesse :)|pg||
nt|jrssd: Margaret Wagner of Atlanta|pg||
nt|yo_yo: we've all heard of the gambling 3NT, this is the Gambling 1NT|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahh: how frustrating for n/s  they cant beat this if declarer gets trumps right |pg||
nt|ahh: needs to keep @H 5|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, those carefully preserved small cards have to BE preserved :)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|daman: my real opinion is.... @@ &* @@*  *|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jrssd: sry, mispelled, Wagar|pg||
nt|jrssd: you thk this is too weak Frank?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|sybarra: 20 lashes |pg||
nt|april7: whats wrong with flannery?|pg||
nt|sybarra: second offense 40+|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahh: as entry to last @S to pitch losing @D|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|nt|frankaus: is this set the first round of a swiss or first 16 of 112 board final?|pg||
pc|h9|nt|santyclz: All lines seem to lead to Rome here.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duck|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahh: looking good |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahh: last test will be a @C play now |pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: As Henry Bethe points out, Sandra Landy wrote a BOLS tip saying that if you believe trumps is the right lead, you should not let Qxx holding deter you.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|frankaus: 4 @S is not a good holding 4 me|pg||
nt|jrssd: with really good trumps you are less likely to get doubled|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well this should have made... but maybe not now|pg||
nt|apocalipse: 15 teams in 2 series. The first 4 teams in each serie will play the finals|pg||
pc|d8|pc|hA|pg||
nt|xenya: http://www.quintonaipe.com/fed08/norte/eqopen.html is the link to results after round 1|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahh: oh no surely not |pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: hmm|pg||
nt|kareno: Well, he has the @d king for that.|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: going for endplay?|pg||
mc|9|nt|ahh: north too good to win that |pg||
nt|kareno: He always had an entry since the defense never attacked diamonds.|pg||
pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SJ74HJ43DAKT7CJ53,S83H9DQJ9852CAKQ9,SKQT962HA82D64C87,SA5HKQT765D3CT642|sv|b|nt|yo_yo: ah david has 6 now|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i see collins and patterson in the past winner  but not David Burn, unless i missed his name|pg||
nt|ahh: no in wet and windy Aberdeen |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: that was a bit quick|pg||
nt|Walddk4: it's always windy, isn't it?|pg||
nt|daman: how did he make 7?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vugraphzdc: sorry 12 |pg||
nt|daman: THX|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|d|nt|Walddk4: Yes, enough for a weak 2|pg||
nt|yo_yo: a top of the range weak 2 here|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ady: 5@C  could make    would have to take a good view in diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: I am kidding in case you did not spot it|pg||
pc|dA|nt|Walddk4: Was 11 really a passout?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|bobh1: yes a pretty solid weak 2|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: David likes the lead|pg||
nt|yo_yo: undo|pg||
nt|daman: yes sir|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Crikey|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|daman: this is not Australia Roland|pg||
nt|ahh: east couldnt open in 4th only 10 Pearson points|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|yo_yo: Collins had a difficult return there|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahh: nobody else felt they should bother either |pg||
pc|s5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|yo_yo: well it's nice to see a woman in the semi final but why isnt she playing|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|yo_yo: he tries but without much conviction for a ruffing finesse|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Because they are 6 in the team|pg||
nt|Walddk4: And they are only allowed to field 4 at a time|pg||
nt|daman: quando flunkus, moritati|pg||
pc|c6|nt|yo_yo: Will David see through that Q@S return i wonder|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: thinks time D asks about signals|pg||
nt|ady: I think better to duck the spade|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: answer stdf|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|yo_yo: pardon?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|cT|nt|ahh: now thats australian |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|daman: when all else fails, play dead (and take the losing ruffing finesse)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ady: will get a better count    West unlikely to haved more that 4@H passing throughout   can count east for 6 hearts and 3 spades if he ducks|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cQ|mc|10|nt|yo_yo: when in doubt run all your trumps |pg||
nt|ahh: called playing possum |pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SJT5HA3DKQT3CAKT3,SQ642HJ7DAJ72C865,SK7HT9654D865CQJ7,SA983HKQ82D94C942|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Nor do I.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 837 pages|pg||
nt|Walddk4: You can kill 4 rats at a time with it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: almost as long as my system file|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: back|pg||
nt|ahh: ok  yes  always had entry :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: bye Shirley|pg||
nt|sybarra: cu all :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Adeus|pg||
nt|werge: Au revoir|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: Holding 4S, South knew North would balance aggressively if short|pg||
nt|marlowepi: and then what?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: pos, but the pass gave his side the lead|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 4 spades may be reached here..|pg||
nt|mdgraham: here is a common theme - a very good hand facing a poor one|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok guys,  I knew I was pressed here at the end,  must leave for live bridge game,   cu all later |pg||
nt|daman: lunchtime here    there is nothing quite like a meatloaf sandwich|pg||
nt|hedyg: too many HCPs in his short suits|pg||
nt|hedyg: bon appetit|pg||
nt|daman: mc|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk4: Would you bid Stayman over 1NT by South with the North cards?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...but may be difficult to make|pg||
nt|werge: Awful 1 @H-opening|pg||
nt|werge: Especially in first hand|pg||
nt|yo_yo: what?  it's normal|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 20-4 for Peirao this set - not what Chagas looking for|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Pessoa did in the other room|pg||
nt|jrssd: no Stayman|pg||
nt|hedyg: IMO pass is a real option in E|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S about right|pg||
nt|kareno: misclick by the operator :)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk4: Maybe one should not with 4333 and honours everywhere|pg||
nt|mdgraham: bye Shirley |pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: i @H is a normal opening|pg||
nt|werge: Does normal indicate, that it cannot be awful?|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
mb|1N|nt|marlowepi: stayman would not occur to me|pg||
nt|sybarra: cu all @h  |pg||
nt|xenya: bye Shirley|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but a 2@S rebid might be wiser or 1NT |pg||
nt|werge: 3 @C???|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: I bid 1nt with n.  In spiet of the 2 aces.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: holding extras for 1N|pg||
nt|santyclz: (spite)|pg||
nt|jrssd: Never, not maybe!|pg||
nt|daman: you would be in the minority|pg||
mb|2D|nt|apocalipse: No Stayman with N hand, I agree|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: no looking for a 44 fit here either|pg||
nt|marlowepi: "Maybe" is straight out of the handbook, john|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a lifetime habit:)|pg||
nt|daman: today we all open the east hand|pg||
nt|ahh: for some 2@H would not be 4th suit force but start of a sign off |pg||
nt|frankaus: bye ll tu for your company karen jim and kibs|pg||
nt|ahh: thx Frank|pg||
mb|2H|nt|daman: :)|pg||
nt|daman: touche|pg||
nt|yo_yo: ok I see what you mean Hans|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|thegarve: non-minimum 1@s opener|pg||
nt|yo_yo: you mean it's a poor suit|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but could be worse,  65432  |pg||
nt|daman: even Al Roth would have opened the East hand|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ady: Q@H lead against 4@S  an overtrivk|pg||
nt|ady: overtrick|pg||
nt|ady: probably lead a diamond|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: no   Q@H|pg||
nt|kareno: Bye and thanks yourself :)|pg||
nt|werge: OK - one more, I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: and these decisions by NS seem to have won the match|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Singleton looks wrong eith this trump holding, but it is the only safe lead |pg||
mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|mdgraham: anyone else think doubling 3@H is a waste of time?|pg||
nt|xenya: absolutely|pg||
nt|yo_yo: for those who dont know  Al Roth was an advocate of GOOD opening bids|pg||
nt|yo_yo: an American  , is he still with us?|pg||
nt|daman: nope|pg||
nt|werge: Have studier the Roth-Stone system some 40 years ago|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4333 downgrades, J@D questionable -- besides, what are options 2N or lie with 1@H?|pg||
nt|caitlin: didnt know we were back|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|xenya: yes, something that invariably happens to me -- i always lead a Q when there is A10 in dummy and K in hand|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|yo_yo: some kibs are suggesting poor Al is turning in his grave, ty Steve|pg||
pc|s6|nt|werge: I mean: When pd does NOT open in third hand, let them play the contract|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wilkinsona: doesnt appear that this is quite there on the trump break|pg||
pc|s8|nt|santyclz: Well, we made it to bd 30 before the other table finished. I'm somewhat surprised.|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...and may need care to achieve -1..|pg||
nt|xenya: he could make 3N (on a heart lead at least), but not 4@S with the 4-1 trump split|pg||
nt|april7: double dummy, develop @D now|pg||
nt|mdgraham: mind you, as Steve Ray points out, doubling 3@H is better than nothing as South may lead a club |pg||
nt|xenya: he might, but his natural lead is a trump |pg||
nt|april7: its even double dummy unmakable|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: an amazing upset with 3/4 doing it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the more i see it, the more impressed i am with the system where South would open this hand 1@C and North transfers to 1N|pg||
nt|jrssd: throw away that handbook|pg||
nt|yo_yo: and yes, he is one of the American GREATS|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: but i'm also a weak notrumper, so this never would have been an issue|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|yo_yo: he didnt mince his words either, I used to read his Bidding Challenges |pg||
nt|daman: Tadeu picked up 10 on Board 27    need a couple more of those quickly|pg||
nt|daman: Roth's standard reply was   "Stay fixed!!"|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes the other declarer failed to finesse in trumps on 10|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 27 rather|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: "Maybe" is a word we recommend in "Manual for Vugraph Commentators"|pg||
nt|jrssd: a well deserved pickup|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, that's called Ingberman after the late Monroe Ingberman who was a great player who died too young.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk4: Better to be on the safe side|pg||
nt|jrssd: but why say maybe if it's really never?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Did you not read the manual, John?|pg||
pc|h5|nt|kareno: I use that bid - cheapest of 4th suit or notrump as an artificial negative.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|jrssd: ok, I'll retreat. |pg||
nt|jrssd: "one should maybe never Stayman..." :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 813 pages of very interesting reading|pg||
nt|ahh: very useful treatment|pg||
nt|xenya: looks funny from here not to win the @DA, but the contract always makes|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|wilkinsona: trying the club hook may be -2..|pg||
nt|yo_yo: are there any ladies in these teams?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|santyclz: Then the problem is whether to invite with n.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Bad 11, but 2 aces.|pg||
nt|caitlin: remember time change folks|pg||
nt|Walddk4: On page 792 you will see that we now permit "bonkers"|pg||
nt|kareno: That club pitch was an error.  The club lead suggested such a holding as AQx.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|wilkinsona: ooops|pg||
pc|d4|nt|marlowepi: the pictures are the best part|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|frankaus: does the manual come with the pay cheque ? - not receive either LOL|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: that heart discard real?|pg||
nt|april7: wrong defense. N should have known where J of @H and play @H K and @H|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|jrssd: tks all, lots of good bidding at both tables|pg||
pc|c7|nt|yo_yo: the names suggest all men in this room|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|daman: another 13 to teixeira|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: curious that none of the pairs that represented Brazil in Beijing are playing together in this event|pg||
nt|sybarra2: not yet  but in the middle of tonight ....|pg||
nt|santyclz: 2am in the eastern zone.|pg||
pc|d7|nt|santyclz: I suspect I'll be fast asleep by then.|pg||
nt|ahh: so just 2 boards to go |pg||
pc|d8|nt|daman: hard for the D to go wrong here|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SJT5HA3DKQT3CAKT3,SQ642HJ7DAJ72C865,SK7HT9654D865CQJ7,SA983HKQ82D94C942|sv|o|nt|yo_yo: i have been christmas shopping, has Janet played?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Yes, a lot yesterday in the quarters|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Don't know about today|pg||
nt|ady: diamond discard?|pg||
nt|ahh: i hope not |pg||
nt|daman: meme chose|pg||
nt|mayors: they're racing through these hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahh: lets just assume he guessed right in @D |pg||
mb|2D|nt|daman: perhaps a 2@H contract for NS on a transfer auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Burn showing a sound raise to 3@H|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S best game|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: no West threw a @D according to movie|pg||
nt|ahh: think couple of passes missing|pg||
nt|daman: racing is fine    brunch time here|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|ahh: 3@D by south 3@S by north 3nt by south |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|yo_yo: friendly lead|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Not a lot to the play on this layout|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ady: East must hold off A@h if King played   not too difficult|pg||
nt|yo_yo: if I were Collins I would be in shock now, if my partner had thrown a @D on the previous hand|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|bobh1: the fact he can afford to make a sound raise on this hand is a clue to why he didn't make a 3rd seat 1h opening on an earlier hand|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|yo_yo: both teams here have won the Gold Cup in the past |pg||
nt|yo_yo: http://www.bridgegreatbritain.org/goldcup/goldcupwinners.htm|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i cant see David Burn's name but it could be there|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|ahh: this is pretty hopeless contract |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: server not picking up all pass bids i willneed to watch out|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks Margaret |pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|yo_yo: The gold cup is Britain's most prestigious team event|pg||
pc|h6|nt|yo_yo: not sure what you mean bob|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg||
nt|bobh1: if he thought his pd might have only 4 @hs he might make a negative double or something|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hydes did not cover, oh well, just an overtrick|pg||
nt|yo_yo: england, wales and Scotland compete|pg||
nt|mayors: will probably end up having to guess spades for his contract|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahh: Scots have won the trophy a few times  but not sure if an all Welsh team has |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ahh: Tim Rees certainly  has won |pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s2|nt|yo_yo: here we go|pg||
nt|yo_yo: now the guess|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|yo_yo: well done David|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahh: well judged |pg||
pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SQ2HJ8D94CAQJT865,SJ63HK74D876CK432,SAK84HAQ532DT53C9,ST975HT96DAKQJ2C7|sv|n|nt|Walddk4: You can't leave prematurely with the wages we pay you|pg||
nt|marlowepi: what about the singular, "bonker"? and the comparative "bonkerser"?|pg||
nt|jrssd: sry, the late start has put me into overtime :(|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Yes, that's 21% extra|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Look in your mailbox in a few days|pg||
nt|apocalipse: by John|pg||
nt|xenya: her should have kept the @H7 |pg||
nt|xenya: actually they were playing no-trumps at that stage|pg||
nt|daman: pulling away|pg||
nt|werge: suits|pg||
mb|3C|nt|jrssd: bye for now...|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: once more result from other room of interest|pg||
nt|kareno: This is the last set for today I believe - it's pretty late in Portugal by now :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: well she can blame her team mates then|pg||
nt|daman: she isn't like that|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra2: penultimate bd|pg||
nt|ahollan1: another flat distribution|pg||
nt|sybarra2: right Al!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: "penultimate" one of the best words ever!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: But they should have defeated that|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 'Slam' board scored now - Miguesl back in the lead|pg||
nt|daman: but she would rather play than sit|pg||
nt|werge: 620 looks like a win here|pg||
mb|p|nt|apocalipse: that's a big swing for Sofia's team, I think|pg||
nt|ahh: multi 2@D|pg||
mb|3D|nt|Walddk4: With that dummy it should not be difficult to cash 3 black tricks and then tap the dummy with another|pg||
nt|marlowepi: maybe|pg||
nt|frankaus: with 730 in the bank - this could be a double diggit swing|pg||
nt|jfaria: I comented I missed something in open, meaning that if W can produce X with that hand, than E cant accept with his|pg||
nt|yo_yo: wont they let her?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: But 200 would have been a top at MP|pg||
nt|daman: on Bd 10   they were in 3NT here +600   in the OR they were in 4@S on the 4-3 going down|pg||
nt|yo_yo: difficult for women to get into the top teams |pg||
nt|werge: How do you get the 11th trick here?|pg||
nt|daman: she couldn't make it to this event    is watching from spec :(|pg||
mb|p|nt|cuttysark: EW in the other room playing a weak no-trump|pg||
nt|kareno: And north puts a toe in dangerous waters.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: perhaps 4 spades on though|pg||
nt|jfaria: lol|pg||
nt|werge: Sorry - sleeping|pg||
nt|werge: Just lead a trump - and declarer has a lot to work out|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|santyclz: Right up there with "defenistration".|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and 200 it should have been|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: this auction may give the oppo a chance|pg||
nt|ady: 1no-trump  just|pg||
nt|ahh: east had a problem |pg||
nt|ahh: he will run out of double cards |pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, but not now.|pg||
nt|daman: Portugal have several world class women players|pg||
pc|hK|nt|april7: good bid, probably denying @H and asking for stop, so 3NT by W|pg||
pc|hA|nt|marlowepi: 4S is a lot to bid at these colors on a balanced-ish hand, but more or less forced unless you play a double of 3H as a game invite in spades (highly recommended)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: but west fails to take it|pg||
nt|april7: ducked by S|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 3Sx would have let them in|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 11 top tricks?|pg||
nt|kareno: lol|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i am sure there are|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but few make it to the top teams|pg||
nt|daman: sure they do   |pg||
nt|kareno: Clubs break.  One club finesse works for the spade pitch.  Not so difficult as all that.|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|sybarra2: defenestration :)|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: beginning to look convincing for Miguel Teixeira|pg||
nt|kareno: Heart leads would have been more useful for the defense.|pg||
nt|yo_yo: ok count  the numbers in this match!|pg||
pc|h9|nt|Walddk4: Declarer has a few guesses to make|pg||
nt|Walddk4: One in each black suit|pg||
nt|mdgraham: there seems to be a strange aversion to leading the suit partner opened here|pg||
pc|h8|nt|werge: Still it´s not a winner, but an awful lead|pg||
nt|kareno: And here a natural lead looking for a ruff.|pg||
nt|xenya: the lead makes it so much easier for declarer|pg||
nt|werge: On a good day, the defence will get 3 @C-tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: Operator, didn't south make nine tricks on that last hand?  Making 3 - better fix that.|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahh: much needed points for Matos and company|pg||
nt|kareno: And it was pretty clear on the auction.|pg||
nt|daman: these matches are prelims   finals in the Spring|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 50% of bridge players are women|pg||
nt|werge: It is - should we be kind - a very optimistical lead. Declarer - not partner - opened a strong NT...|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm hearing at the table it was down one.  |pg||
pc|h5|nt|Walddk4: If he gets them both wrong, he will go down|pg||
pc|hT|nt|Walddk4: 1 of 2 = made   2 of 2 = 1 overtrick|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: perhaps, I back him for 11|pg||
nt|Walddk4: He can play for @CJ singleton with North|pg||
nt|jfaria: think he wont guess  @s right|pg||
nt|frankaus: the S opening could help him get it right|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Although odds are 2:1 to drop the singleton king|pg||
nt|marlowepi: club, heart ruff, spade to king, club|pg||
nt|marlowepi: then make whenever S is 6-4, as he should be on the auction?|pg||
nt|jfaria: rui must decide about shape vs hc points ..|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: with alternative lines on offer may take his time here|pg||
nt|Walddk4: low club wins with stiff king in either hand, queen only with stiff jack with North. So odds 2:1 for the drop of the king|pg||
nt|daman: 26 length lead in the homestretch|pg||
pc|d4|nt|yo_yo: but they dont make it onto the top teams|pg||
nt|kareno: He won the first club, then two diamonds for three, then five hearts for eight and the spade ace for nine.  Check it out.|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|cA|nt|Walddk4: voilà|pg||
pc|c2|nt|santyclz: I flunked spelling in kindergarten.|pg||
nt|frankaus: now 2 top @S|pg||
nt|thegarve: North again would not bid, no harm this time as there was no @C fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: actually could have made 11 tricks in 4 @s on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 1 imp to NS - not enough|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|wilkinsona: If my partner opened suits like that I would stop supporting on xxx|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|xenya: still some work to do|pg||
nt|kareno: You need to talk to the director if they think it was down.  We saw it making.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 2 of 2|pg||
nt|ady: 2@D made in the other room     defence no alert in picking up 3 spades 2 hearts and a club|pg||
nt|daman: when you seperate Open and Women's    a lot of women elect to play in the latter    |pg||
pc|s2|nt|mdgraham: double of 3@S likely asked for non-spade lead|pg||
nt|daman: separate*|pg||
pc|s6|nt|Walddk4: 450|pg||
nt|xenya: well S had shown a 2-suiter, so N just led what had to be his 2nd suit|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: sorry, I've looked at the bidding all wrong... withdraw all coments..|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kareno: Unless something happened we don't know about.|pg||
nt|xenya: draw trumps and DON'T play E for the @C10|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|daman: North onlyhas green cards in his bidding box most hands|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk4: 15 IMPs|pg||
nt|xenya: W will be squuezed on the run of @Ss?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|thegarve: I'm allergic to my green cards|pg||
pc|s8|nt|yo_yo: i am dreaming of a time when it's 50-50 mix|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: last board ,ty all|pg||
pc|sT|nt|marlowepi: very excitingmatch|pg||
nt|daman: like gunpowder residue|pg||
pc|d9|nt|wilkinsona: first bet Ive won in a while|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
mc|5|nt|ady: sorry   down 1|pg||
pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SQ2HJ8D94CAQJT865,SJ63HK74D876CK432,SAK84HAQ532DT53C9,ST975HT96DAKQJ2C7|sv|n|nt|yo_yo: yes that figures|pg||
nt|ahh: preempt or 1 opener ?|pg||
nt|daman: 1|pg||
nt|yo_yo: preempt for me|pg||
mb|3C|nt|daman: yuck|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: only 7 losers |pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 3NT    West  |pg||
nt|mayors: at the vul, pre-empt|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|yo_yo: 14-16 NT seems to be the current vogue |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: another friendly lead :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: in England?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|ahh: how else would you get west to play hand in 3 @D|pg||
nt|yo_yo: I am asked if northern Ireland has a team |pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: with a rebid of 11-13 |pg||
nt|ahh: but not by an auction we fully understand |pg||
nt|ady: even east will make|pg||
nt|daman: on this side of the pond we would open 1@C|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ady: some sort of relays     but they seem to know what they are doing|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 1@h @h or bal|pg||
nt|ahh: case of running for the hills  with 9 tricks |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 2@c shows bakl|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but NI not part of GB |pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d4|nt|Walddk4: I don't think Burn opens balanced 11 counts|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|bobh1: with inflation and everything seems appropriate|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|nt|yo_yo: it UK but not GB|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SK96HK9DQ874CAQJ2,SA42HAQT65DA2C974,SJT87HJ32DJ53CT83,SQ53H874DKT96CK65|sv|e|nt|sybarra2: Mariner (rob) here to help you |pg||
nt|santyclz: Spring foreward, fall back.|pg||
nt|caitlin: yeahh more sleep:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in kindergarten i excelled --- at nap time|pg||
nt|sybarra2: thx all,    last bd of set |pg||
nt|santyclz: This is the last board of this set.  A very special thanks to our lovely and talented vg oper!|pg||
nt|caitlin: ty to our operator|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and our congrats to the Peirao team |pg||
nt|caitlin: yes and thanks to my sister/fellow commentators:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: Thank you all for the audience. Again we apologize for the technical problems|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks to my fellow commentators, Ellen, Shirley, Al and sometimes Rob.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: absolutely - good show from operator -- was it Yaki??|pg||
nt|caitlin: and always to specs:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: last hand here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: last board|pg||
nt|xenya: Last board now, and a few words of gratitutude are in order. First, a big thank you to our operator Pedro Alves -- excellent job! Our appreciations also go the Portuguese Bridge ...|pg||
nt|xenya: Fegeration (Luis Correira, Pedro Madeira) for bringing this exciting event to the BBO audience. Many thanks to my fellow commentators Shirley, Mike, Tony, David and Avram for ...|pg||
nt|xenya: donating their time and expertise to guide us through this set...      |pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you all for joining and for your kind and helpful comments; we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|daman: easy 4@H here|pg||
nt|xenya: would have been rather|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, cold have made an overtrick by rising with @HA|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks to our great operators in Portugal Eanes and Carlos Araujo  and to the Portuguese bridge federation Luis Correia and Pedro Madeira for the broadcast  thanks to Karen Allison ...|pg||
nt|ahh: the last commentator standing and to all the others who dropped bye  been an exciting set i hope you have enjoyed |pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks to you too :)|pg||
nt|ahh: been a pleasure |pg||
nt|kareno: And to the organizers of the tournament for allowing us into their event :)|pg||
nt|ahh: we restart tomorrow but not sure what time |pg||
nt|kareno: And to our wonderful Operator who has kept up so well with the bidding and play.|pg||
nt|yo_yo: I have a dream...|pg||
nt|fpbridge: As Director of P.B.Federation, I want to thank Portuguese ARBN in the person of Pedro Madeira, for the wonderful organization of this Event. The Finals with the 8 Teams will be ...|pg||
nt|fpbridge: done in Lisbon on 23,24 and 25 Jan'2009. See you all there. Many thanks too to Roland and all commentators.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|wilkinsona: and maybe on the last hand the Henriques team will score|pg||
nt|mdgraham: ty Pedro|pg||
nt|daman: unlikely to happen given the various options open to women|pg||
mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: thanks all.... lets see if our NS can make 4 hearts here|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzdx: tx|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and to our excellent commentators: Frank, Tony, Luis, Marshall and John|pg||
nt|april7: W can't pass this hand???|pg||
nt|mdgraham: West surely opened|pg||
nt|yo_yo: obrigado Carlos|pg||
nt|daman: Sabine and Daniella often play with top Open teams|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: tu luis marshall toni roland and all kibs for ur company|pg||
nt|marlowepi: so say we all|pg||
nt|apocalipse: ty Roland and see you all tomorrow|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: mararet's convention again?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our appreciation to the Portuguese Bridge Federation for bringing this event to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate|pg||
nt|xenya: and, of course, to all the spectators for their witty and helpful comments|pg||
nt|kareno: And of course to Roland Wald who arranges these events so well for us.|pg||
nt|ahh: tame end to an exciting set|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: ty|pg||
nt|kareno: And last but not least to the owners of Bridge Base who provide this fabulous platform for viewing bridge week after week all year.|pg||
nt|kareno: We hope to be there too!!|pg||
nt|werge: 5 D could be interesting|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: oops  Yuki|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Pedro Madeira and Tó Eanes have been instrumental in setting up a fine show|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: results will be posted asap|pg||
nt|lebasi: 2@d is weak in M or strong in @d:)|pg||
nt|marlowepi: usually with that kind of trump support i at least give a single raise :)|pg||
nt|frankaus: interestin action here 2|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...and it could be a winner!|pg||
nt|kareno: A tame ending to a very exciting match.  And we have seen Cruzeiro and Santos have very much the better of it.|pg||
nt|yo_yo: ok that's 2 ....   |pg||
pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: not a good pass by E with 6-4|pg||
nt|xenya: another 10 imps for Miguel Suisa on board 30, where they bid and made 5@D|pg||
nt|yo_yo: name 10 more|pg||
nt|werge: 5 @D|pg||
pc|sK|nt|sybarra2: Yuki,  you have done a great job!!!  we truly appreciate  it |pg||
nt|xenya: http://www.quintonaipe.com/fed08/norte/enc2/enc2.html photos of this macth|pg||
nt|daman: will make 5 if they guess the @Hs|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|caitlin: np Yuki:)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks to BBO|pg||
nt|xenya: board 29, sorry|pg||
nt|cuttysark: So a substantial win in the end|pg||
nt|ahh: check bd 14 in other room :)|pg||
nt|ahh: sorry 12 |pg||
nt|daman: Jill Myers     Janice Seamon Molson    Jill Levin    etc etc|pg||
nt|werge: 2 @S will mean an easy pick-up here|pg||
nt|kareno: I would also thank BBO for providing this fabulous platform to watch these great events.|pg||
pc|s9|nt|mariner1: Many thanks to Federico Kladt, the Federico Paulista de Bridge (Brazil), and all|pg||
nt|mariner1: the organizers for helping BBO bring us the vugraphs......|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow - twice in 1 session seeing South African Texas Transfer|pg||
nt|marlowepi: looks like a 2 IMP voictory for NS|pg||
nt|hedyg: no reason to guess|pg||
nt|xenya: *Sousa|pg||
nt|ady: should make this for 1 imp|pg||
nt|ahh: slam here and part score there |pg||
nt|kareno: Too funny!!|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Walddk4: Play will resume in 11 hours, 12 minutes and 47.14329 seconds, approximately|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back then|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, indeed|pg||
pc|sT|nt|daman: correct|pg||
nt|daman: Tadeu is gaining    little by little|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|mdgraham: South probably opened 1@S third in hand here|pg||
nt|april7: something is here wrong with the bidding,please correct|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, the auction must be wrong|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: how about the East didnt lead a trump reason?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: steve suggesting Bella Donna  :)  good one|pg||
pc|s8|nt|wilkinsona: nowt like a bit of spurious accuracy to impress..|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 20 minutes past midnight in Portugal now|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: sry|pg||
nt|ady: I supoose you could play for KX offside|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, in 2@C you would lead out !A then guess whether to play @CQ or @Cx next - one usually plays @CQ because it looks stylish  |pg||
nt|ahh: to see othe room scores click on movioe at bottom of screen then click on open room |pg||
nt|werge: This will bring 5 IMP´s|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mdgraham: thanks Pedro, thanks all. bye for now  |pg||
nt|wilkinsona: NP, Pedro, you have done brilliantly|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: see you in about 1 h|pg||
nt|april7: bye all, thanks till next time|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: by all|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d2|nt|frankaus: bye all|pg||
nt|apocalipse: bye|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Have a nice day/evening/night everyone and bye for now|pg||
nt|hedyg: because he has ace?|pg||
nt|kareno: Operator, did they also think 4@h was down?|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this one looks more like a hand that wants no other contract but 4@H|pg||
pc|h4|nt|werge: Now 150 - a @S-switch was needed|pg||
pc|hK|nt|Walddk4: and don't forget the cricket from Brisbane! It's on now|pg||
nt|marlowepi: Davy or Jiminy?|pg||
pc|hA|nt|santyclz: for providing the platform.  Roland and all those who organie these (my last letter key has stopped working)|pg||
nt|daman: Lynn Deas    Beth Palmer    Dianna Gordon     Sharyn Reus etc etc|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Marshall, some day you will learn what matters in life|pg||
nt|ady: wrong again     down 1|pg||
nt|cuttysark: When it works|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Walddk4: Cricket is life, the rest is mere details|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|wilkinsona: told my son long ago to play the non trump leader for the queen..|pg||
nt|daman: if I had time I could name 50|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|h5|nt|wilkinsona: Danish cricket on the up, Roland?|pg||
nt|ady: this is the last one?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: So a big thank you to our operator, Pedro Alves, for great work.|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: yes|pg||
nt|ady: THX ALL|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk4: Indeed|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good night|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: thanks and good night|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well played NS here too|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: tx all|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: how old is he?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...didnt listen to much else mind you|pg||
nt|hedyg: rofl|pg||
nt|hedyg: that works often when you are only missing the queen|pg||
nt|hedyg: but when ace is missing you are on a guess|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|cuttysark: And to my fellow commentators, you, the spectators, and the organsiers who brought us the show|pg||
nt|yo_yo: they all made it onto male dominated teams?|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d6|nt|hedyg: if he got the @h right he could have made 12 tricks|pg||
nt|daman: yep|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c8|nt|reisig: Let's get ready for board 33 :)|pg||
nt|daman: Migry|pg||
pc|cK|nt|yo_yo: how many now?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: much more likely to lead a trump from Ax than Qx and a singleton ace a pos lead|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: Tkanks|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: thanks all, and best wishes for the rest of the tourny Pedro|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|santyclz: And we'll all go together when we go...|pg||
nt|sybarra2: now you come in RR!|pg||
nt|caitlin: hey Richie@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure Chagas would like 33|pg||
nt|caitlin: and 34 and more and more:)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Play will resume in about 1 hour and 35 minutes after a dinner break|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back then|pg||
nt|ady: bye all|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Bye - enjoy the rest of the bridge|pg||
nt|kareno: Soooo, specs, come back tomorrow for more action from Portugal|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h6|nt|sybarra2: chagas wants 33-40+|pg||
pc|cT|nt|reisig: :)|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is there a trump endplay here??|pg||
nt|santyclz: There is.|pg||
nt|sybarra2: 8 of @H|pg||
nt|reisig: easy one|pg||
nt|sfranchino: K|pg||
nt|sfranchino: J is the same|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kareno: And I wish you goodnight from Las Vegas :)|pg||
nt|ahh: thx all  from Aberdeen|pg||
nt|ahh: very snowy here today |pg||
pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 8@H or J@H  = +620  -----  well done indeed!!!|pg||
nt|sfranchino: 8 or J is same|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: nice play by Kladt to finish this finals|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|reisig: Nice play|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks all, bye.  |pg||
nt|caitlin: night all:)|pg||
nt|sybarra2: well cone,  and congrats toe Peirao team,   |pg||
nt|sybarra2: *done|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: Congrats indeed to Peirão's team.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks everybody -- great hand to end with - congrats to the script writers|pg||
nt|sybarra2: cu tomorrow from many places for more vugraph @H@H|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: Vugraph out|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: Thanks again and till next time, with a better network, I hope|pg||
nt|vugraphzdn: bye|pg||
nt|vugraphzdx: ty,bye|pg||
nt|daman: they play on Women's teams Kath     without that option  many of them would make it to the Open teams|pg||
nt|yo_yo: bye all  and thanks for an interesting match and comments|pg||
nt|daman: yourself included|pg||
nt|daman: ciao|pg||
nt|yo_yo: thanks George|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SK96HK9DQ874CAQJ2,SA42HAQT65DA2C974,SJT87HJ32DJ53CT83,SQ53H874DKT96CK65|sv|e|nt|ady: grand slam|pg||
nt|daman: that was fast|pg||
nt|ahh: the confusion we cause everybody with UK GB  Great Britain and the British Isles |pg||
mb|1H|nt|benjy: 14-16 in 1st and 2nd|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 8-11 NV I assume|pg||
nt|Walddk4: no???|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: hi all |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: we are stying with this match|pg||
nt|ahh: i think team GB for Olympics includes NI|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Walddk4: You are getting old, Ben|pg||
nt|ahh: bd 13  n/s next door failed in part score  boys here made 5@C |pg||
nt|yo_yo: last board of the set now|pg||
nt|ady: big  hand to finish set|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks to Margaret our operator in peebles for overcoming adversity |pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|benjy: well if i open 1nt on an 8 count, it certainly isn't on the card|pg||
nt|bobh1: interesting 3c bid|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Last board already|pg||
nt|benjy: limit raise i imagine|pg||
nt|bobh1: perhaps r bergen?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: a good slam here, one of 2 finesses   but.....|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Thanks to Margaret Pemble for a flawless performance|pg||
nt|Walddk4: And to our formidable commentators|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: thks but only because they claim so early|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahh: thanks to Kath and David for their comments |pg||
nt|ady: n/s doing their best to muddy the waters|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks to you for watching  back after a short break |pg||
nt|yo_yo: an interesting set, tx peebles|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 4@c splinter lol|pg||
nt|ahh: meant as fit jump |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yet to show void!|pg||
nt|ady: dont knows whether 1@S showed spades    since West did not clear the air with 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: Nick's explanations at table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: shouldnt patterson have shown his support?|pg||
nt|ady: may find the grand difficult now|pg||
nt|ahh: new partnership   no consensus on rarer auctions it will come |pg||
nt|yo_yo: now he'll bid 6 I assume|pg||
nt|yo_yo: it confuses everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: i wonder what that shows|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: 3 sighs at table|pg||
nt|ady: have they agreed spades I ask myself?|pg||
nt|ahh: Mary Peters for instance |pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahh: @H ace i guess |pg||
nt|ahh: grand slam try |pg||
nt|yo_yo: well if it's a GS try then I suppose Collins will go for it|pg||
pc|h9|nt|daman: this si now the last board of this session|pg||
nt|daman: is*|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahh: gold medal winner in Munich i think it was |pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: That double will discourage Erichsen I think|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|yo_yo: it's a bit difficult when patterson didnt bid his @S|pg||
nt|ahh: its the Gold cup final  177 people watching on vu graph  not easy |pg||
nt|ady: chances of a swing |pg||
pc|h8|nt|vugraphzdc: thanks all - see you again soon|pg||
nt|yo_yo: bye for now|pg||
nt|ahh: play was quicker than the thinking |pg||
nt|ahh: thx all |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: restart 12:20 GMT|pg||
nt|ady: swing on board 13 for de Botton     could take the lead if they bid this grand|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I have always disliked doubles of splinters and cuebids, unless they had a sensible meaning|pg||
nt|benjy: 4NT after spl is exclusion for these lads i think|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Walddk4: I think Erichsen's 4NT was wrong|pg||
nt|bobh1: playing low might work|pg||
nt|yo_yo: well the response wouldnt be 5@H then ben?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Knowing that they have a certain heart loser, he needs partner to produce a club cue|pg||
nt|yo_yo: no|pg||
nt|benjy: yes it would,. normal responses just @D ace not included|pg||
nt|Walddk4: South could have @DA instead of @SA, but that wouldd not help|pg||
nt|bobh1: W may regret that he got what he asked for|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|ahh: good news for declare  both black finesses work   but  still will go down |pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|vugraphzdc: sorry lost track|pg||
mc|6|nt|yo_yo: it's quick for us all dont worry|pg||
nt|daman: we are done for now|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks Margaret |pg||
nt|yo_yo: thanks peebles  see you soon|pg||
nt|ahh: back soon |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: next start 17.55|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: team away just  as match manager was coming in to say half time|pg||
nt|bcallaghan: Because I don't know what's going on.  Another 16 boards - OK.|pg||
pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SQ762HT9DKJ75C963,SKT4HKQ83DAT92CT8,SJ3HA6DQ8643CAK54,SA985HJ7542DCQJ72|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|an|!H + another|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SQ762HT9DKJ75C963,SKT4HKQ83DAT92CT8,SJ3HA6DQ8643CAK54,SA985HJ7542DCQJ72|sv|o|nt|vugraphzdc: welcome back|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: welcome back|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2D|nt|yo_yo: hello everyone from Manchester  |pg||
nt|yo_yo: 16 boards to go in this Gold Cup final|pg||
nt|ady: hi all|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|ahh: skinny double from east |pg||
mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|ahh: so 16 boards to go  very tight match |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: since it is so close|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: welcome back to this exciting final|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: crickey it is|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|nt|Walddk4: Hi Jim and Kath|pg||
nt|ahh: other match i hear Collins are leadig big |pg||
nt|Walddk4: and welcome to Vladimir too|pg||
nt|ahh: hi Roland  and Kath |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello again|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|ahh: Roland i am being asked if there is any web page with scores etc |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Impressive, David Burn playing in both rooms|pg||
nt|Walddk4: No, no running scores|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: he is not in this room|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Is he playing at your table, Margaret?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Oh, you just changed it to Hackett and Hackett|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: in the throws r|pg||
nt|yo_yo: here we have our Manchester super stars|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Townsend entered with 4@S over 4@H. Scary|pg||
nt|ahh: i like the idea of a room where all the mistakes are made |pg||
nt|Walddk4: What do you think, Jim?|pg||
nt|ahh: well he knows no fear |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: Jason scracthing head|pg||
nt|Walddk4: He was lucky to find such a useful dummy|pg||
nt|ahh: annoying  defence have 4 winners but cant get them |pg||
nt|yo_yo: he needs to ditch a spade from dummy|pg||
nt|ady: hearts 2-2   9@C coming down makes life wasy|pg||
nt|ady: easy|pg||
nt|ahh: if they try to set up @S winner they lose the trick if they dont  @S go on @C |pg||
pc|d9|nt|ady: might be a swing  |pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|odysseus69: sensible auction - some might get too high but not the pairs here- the Hacketts will also play 1NT|pg||
pc|c3|nt|col3435: just pitch a spade on the @dA then? or ruff this? I can't see it makes a difference|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahh: needs to go up to make and guess @H|pg||
nt|yo_yo: South has read that he shouldnt put down an 8 card suit as dummy|pg||
pc|c7|nt|yo_yo: lands me in all sorts of trouble|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c4|nt|yo_yo: i try to follow that advice too|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|nt|odysseus69: sorry- Hacketts not playing this set|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|ady: same contract in other room|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Graham Osborne|pg||
nt|ahh: plain sailing now |pg||
pc|c5|nt|odysseus69: De Botton -Malinowski might get higher|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4S73HQJ95DJ7432CT6,SA65HA742DQ86CQJ5,ST82HKT6DAKTCK983,SKQJ94H83D95CA742|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4S73HQJ95DJ7432CT6,SA65HA742DQ86CQJ5,ST82HKT6DAKTCK983,SKQJ94H83D95CA742|sv|n|nt|ahh: part score in @S here |pg||
nt|yo_yo: the Collins team must be getting tired by now, only a 4-man team|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahh: dealing machine has been cranked up|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|vugraphzdc: Big Deal Jim|pg||
nt|ahh: 5@D 5@H 6@H perhaps |pg||
nt|xenya: he could have made it i think by winning @CA, guessing @Hs and squeezing W at the end|pg||
nt|Walddk4: N-S in 6@H next door|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Well bid, although 7 can be made on any lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I believe 1NT is 14-16|pg||
nt|ahh: limited opener |pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahh: same opener Roland ?|pg||
nt|ahh: can they stay out of game ?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: they are not looking too tired|pg||
nt|yo_yo: good|pg||
nt|ady: this lightopener should lead them to getting to high|pg||
mb|4S|nt|Walddk4: Yes, but 4NT from Burn, two places to play|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Then over 5@D   5@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: i suspect 6@H from north |pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 2H showing 3 after the double|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|Walddk4: and after a tank for 2 minutes, raised to slam|pg||
nt|ahh: this is top level stuff   |pg||
nt|ahh: most would open though 7 losers  good @S    ace in secondary suit |pg||
nt|col3435: right, I don't think West could do any less there|pg||
nt|col3435: though he did seem to think about it|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Walddk4: It's a lucky hand in the sense that you can make all 13 even on a trump lead|pg||
pc|h6|nt|yo_yo: West has his bid|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|ahh: after all they play precision so p  knows max of 15 |pg||
nt|ady: if you open that type of hand you will often get too high   |pg||
pc|h5|nt|yo_yo: but you dont expect anything to break looking at the South hand|pg||
nt|Walddk4: But it's not realistic to get to the grand slam I think|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mayors: very favourable lie for e/w here, kx @s nside |pg||
pc|hK|nt|mayors: and @c ace|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahh: never going to bid 7  though needs good @C break less likely after  @S preempt |pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|xenya: just as good, Roland|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahh: must be true if we all think it |pg||
nt|odysseus69: cant help but make 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ahh: its the modern style  err on the side of adventure |pg||
nt|ady: but though nice spades he h as 10 |pg||
nt|yo_yo: the Hacketts opened it too|pg||
nt|col3435: no surprise there :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: no one will want to miss any hint of a game|pg||
nt|ady: then you have to bid a little less the otherside of the table|pg||
nt|ahh: no surprise there there|pg||
nt|ahh: too many twins about  my words are cloning themselves|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahh: he might just draw trumps and give up @C |pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, a 100% play|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahh: but he can relatively safely  draw 1 trump ruff @C with Q   ruff @D and still give up !¬C if he has  to |pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|ady: 4@S 2 down other table    tht should make 9 tricks|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|d2|nt|odysseus69: and 3C was making so Gerald T took winning action|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|ahh: going to lose 4th @C now|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1S862HA73DKCJT7632,SAT5HKQ8DQ54CKQ95,SJ743HJT92DA63C84,SKQ9H654DJT9872CA|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1S862HA73DKCJT7632,SAT5HKQ8DQ54CKQ95,SJ743HJT92DA63C84,SKQ9H654DJT9872CA|sv|e|nt|ahh: impressive flat board |pg||
nt|yo_yo: agreed|pg||
nt|ady: could have taken club finesse early and ruff 4th club |pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: i dont think bidding it was that easy|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: on previous they did reach 2NT in Open Room - and 1 too many|pg||
nt|mayors: @h game e/w here, but n/s have a cheap save in @c|pg||
nt|col3435: he must have been hoping for a singleton @cK|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: i think that hand shows what modern bridge is about  open light bid any game that has a sniff if it doesnt make worst that happens  flat board|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ady: not much interest here|pg||
nt|yo_yo: that's a 14-16 NT   |pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|yo_yo: do we all open that 11 count?|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|ahh: offering choice in case south has 3 @S|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well judged all round|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahh: yes if i play 12 14 NT|pg||
nt|mayors: Yes the par spot reached|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not everyone would find the double on South but it is right at the vulnerability|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|yo_yo: i probably do with the 2 aces and a king non vul|pg||
nt|ahh: has to get @C right |pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|s2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SJT9752HQ5DA3CJT5,SQ8HAKDKQT8CK8643,SK6H98764DJ97CAQ7,SA43HJT32D6542C92|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|dA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SJT9752HQ5DA3CJT5,SQ8HAKDKQT8CK8643,SK6H98764DJ97CAQ7,SA43HJT32D6542C92|sv|b|nt|yo_yo: David Burn went up with @CQ|pg||
nt|yo_yo: just a lucky guess i think|pg||
nt|mayors: Victor I doubt east's pass was forcing, I think west just doubled to say he had a good pre-empt|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahh: raise to 3nt |pg||
nt|ady: n/s can make 3@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: 1nt 17 19 ish |pg||
pc|h8|nt|ahh: cant if they never bid |pg||
nt|ady: South didnt fancy balancing|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahh: no he likes playing the hands |pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahh: i know how to beat 4@H |pg||
nt|odysseus69: you are probably right - though in 2nd seat vul many play that 3H is always sound|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|xenya: even now?|pg||
nt|mayors: When partner didn't double 5@c the @c void looked very offensive|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|yo_yo: great when you see all hands :)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|yo_yo: this contract not so nice|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: undo|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|mayors: Yes second in Red pre-empts should be good hands|pg||
nt|odysseus69: either 4th spade or Ace and another diamond|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|ahh: not a fan of the trump lead  but its just a guess to lead @C A|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|nt|mayors: Useful swings to Collins on the first three hands of these set all from judging the level to play at better|pg||
pc|c5|nt|col3435: no problem: let the defence do all the work|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d4|pc|cT|nt|ahh: no need to balance if you go plus on a little board anyway |pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|d3|nt|odysseus69: next time he has to play clubs|pg||
nt|yo_yo: you have to feel sorry for West there, all those points and he cant make 1NT|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ahh: he had a chance |pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SATHA6432DT87C963,S9832HJT87DAKCA85,SQ764H5DQ643CQ742,SKJ5HKQ9DJ952CKJT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|d9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SATHA6432DT87C963,S9832HJT87DAKCA85,SQ764H5DQ643CQ742,SKJ5HKQ9DJ952CKJT|sv|n|nt|ahh: hi Sharyn|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Sharyn|pg||
nt|yo_yo: did it make?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes|pg||
nt|ahh: did it make as play had gone differently  to that shown ?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: sorry -1|pg||
nt|yo_yo: looked like 3@C, 2@D and 2@S to NS|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahh: can they stem the tide here |pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello Sharyn youve only missed a 19 imps worth|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mayors: Just below a strong @c for east, and forcing nt response|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: Jason saw what lead beats hand before so tries it |pg||
pc|h3|nt|vugraphzdc: they claim & mutter|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|sharynr: awfully ambitious i would say :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes they arent looking after you Margaret|pg||
pc|h2|nt|sharynr: did north really bid 4@H?|pg||
nt|ahh: less successfully this time |pg||
nt|ahh: as long as they dont maim and clutter |pg||
pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: diff to break habits|pg||
nt|ahh: hard fought set 4 flat boards |pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|nt|ahh: 18 count and p responded ?|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: I forgot that South forgot to open on previous - the result was a much tougher problem for E-W|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ady: will have to get both black suits right|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|ahh: so far so .........|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahh: good |pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SQTH9632DQ753CQJ4,SAJ7HQ8DAT62CK987,SK98543HA75D84CT2,S62HKJT4DKJ9CA653|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SQTH9632DQ753CQJ4,SAJ7HQ8DAT62CK987,SK98543HA75D84CT2,S62HKJT4DKJ9CA653|sv|e|nt|yo_yo: shouldnt you show your splinter en route?|pg||
nt|ahh: surely he cashed @H|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|col3435: that made it easy. but anyway he could cash the @sK before guessing the clubs and he'd find he had an extra spade trick|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mayors: 5@d looks best spot for e/w here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: nasty splits this time |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: so big decision lead p suit or try your own ?|pg||
nt|xenya: @Cs are nice|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: v flat so far|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ady: have to guess to take spade lead|pg||
nt|ahh: confirmed 10 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: duck and go down|pg||
nt|yo_yo: win and make|pg||
nt|ahh: some tough play problems |pg||
nt|yo_yo: depends on who has @H A|pg||
nt|yo_yo: and @S k of course|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mayors: e/w play precision so east has to start with his second best suit here|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ahh: when you dont lead p suit  you better be right to try your own |pg||
nt|odysseus69: a  recurring problem next door is that Janet is hoping for too much from nArtur's card play - if it is makeable he will make it -however if he doesnt bid it it wont be a make so ...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: should respect any sign offs|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|yo_yo: trouble is, North hasnt many entries even if  he sets up his suit|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mayors: west has probably shown doubt about nt here, otherwise he would have bid 3nt the previous round|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahh: has to keep going or he tells west he has no entries |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|ahh: not unreasonable line |pg||
mc|7|nt|ady: just has to guess|pg||
pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJ872HQ854D84CAJ3,SAT96HKJ32DT7C986,S543H9DAQJ963CKT4,SKQHAT76DK52CQ752|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJ872HQ854D84CAJ3,SAT96HKJ32DT7C986,S543H9DAQJ963CKT4,SKQHAT76DK52CQ752|sv|b|nt|Walddk4: After this set there will be a break for lunch. Restart at 2 pm local time, in 1 hour and 8 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: twin discussion of auction now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 4 hearts looked right on last and I think East should have bid it|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahh: it should know ruff was unacceptable in a NT contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahh: 1st imp of set scored |pg||
nt|col3435: very light reopening double - I thought 3@d would buy it|pg||
nt|ahh: similar to bd 15|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: best action here is to pass|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahh: 3@D has sort of bought it |pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahh: skinny overcall |pg||
pc|s6|nt|mayors: I also think east should have pulled 3nt, his cards were slow and he had a singleton @s|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|ahh: but north south land on the head of a pin |pg||
nt|xenya: right|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: graham we are of one mind - maybe one of us should be scared by this|pg||
nt|ady: might go for 500|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|sharynr: i suppose east and west have a played a time or two together :)|pg||
nt|ahh: great play |pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|yo_yo: did the overcall help them stay low|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|sharynr: only bidding 2@H|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|yo_yo: they have Sharyn,|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahh: i am tiold North is in fact Sandqvist |pg||
nt|ady: North thinks K10XX @D with east|pg||
nt|yo_yo: he will ruff high |pg||
nt|ady: might discard a club|pg||
nt|ady: hackets made 3NT +2  on board 22|pg||
nt|ahh: won 1st @S and went for @H |pg||
pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|ady: now 500|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 500 now for defence|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|ahh: lot of pointy suit losers   in west hand |pg||
pc|d4|nt|xenya: might have helped in a sense -- N devalutaed his @HK?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I think BBO should provide lunch for commentators- |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
mc|7|nt|yo_yo: i remember them in their Manchester Grammar school uniform, trotting into manchester Bridge club|pg||
nt|yo_yo: I even used to give them a few hints|pg||
pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SQT8763HJD2CQJ987,SAJ54H98743DJ8C42,S92HK62DQT965CAT3,SKHAQT5DAK743CK65|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SQT8763HJD2CQJ987,SAJ54H98743DJ8C42,S92HK62DQT965CAT3,SKHAQT5DAK743CK65|sv|o|nt|sharynr: :)|pg||
nt|ahh: you saw how good they were and suggested they try chess ?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i didnt think much of their bridge abilities in those days, actually|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: they do you just have to be in the right place to get it|pg||
nt|yo_yo: last board of the set|pg||
nt|ahh: cracking defence   how many   club players would underlead the @H ace|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|yo_yo: even told their father that|pg||
mb|2S|nt|sharynr: 4@H looks like the max here|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: unless opps lead @D|pg||
nt|ahh: Kath has always been a good judge of potential |pg||
nt|yo_yo: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahh: just check the race horses she backs |pg||
nt|mayors: precision 1 @d opening by west|pg||
nt|odysseus69: everyone opens on 11 counts - I dont mind on this West hand but not so happy when I am biddibg a non-suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: more doubled part scores |pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|xenya: that @CA again?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: true, i thought my daughter should be a tennis champion  |pg||
mb|p|nt|mayors: The delayed @d bid by North is natural|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: but will not get so rich on this 1 |pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|ahh: so bid their game |pg||
nt|ady: A@H best     might try to get to hand with A & K diamonds and lose a ruff  but will still make|pg||
nt|yo_yo: West has serious communication problems here|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|mayors: Precision players can be a bit looser with their openings|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|ahh: should be a new law if God deals you @C A  lead it |pg||
nt|ahh: should have married Mr Williams then |pg||
nt|xenya: yeah, makes the game a bit easier to play|pg||
nt|yo_yo: errr no|pg||
nt|sharynr: although it did not matter, i'm not sure justin should have covered that diamond|pg||
nt|sharynr: but i guess it depends on what he thought 3NT showed|pg||
nt|ahh: so 2 bds to be scored this set then last 8 to be played |pg||
nt|ahh: thx to Margaret Pemble our star operator in Peebles |pg||
nt|yo_yo: thanks all for exciting set |pg||
nt|ahh: thx to my fellow commentators Kath  Nelson Sharyn Reus and Vladimir Ivanov|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|sharynr: thanks to you Jim|pg||
nt|ahh: thanks to you for watching we will be back soon for the finale|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: welcome to the final set - same people|pg||
nt|Walddk2: shut down pls, wrong score|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Stephen did too|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|odysseus69: as often happens the opponents are steered into a making game - unopposed they might land in 4H|pg||
nt|mayors: N/S did well to get 3NT after the start to the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: Stuart thinking|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|ahh: now must get @H right|pg||
nt|ady: will lose A@C   and maybe a trump in the wash|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: yes Nick did well to bid 3D - it could have been a disaster if West really had diamonds|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ady: does not need to|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s3|nt|vugraphzdc: again|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphzdc: see you soon|pg||
nt|odysseus69: where they played 3NT down Janet made 6D when South chose an ill judged Ace of Clubs lead|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: restart 14:00 gmt|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ady: just cross ruff    K@H makes later|pg||
nt|ahh: will get it right |pg||
pc|c6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|yo_yo: now he knows where @H k is|pg||
pc|s5|pc|dT|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|mc|11|nt|vugraphzdc: thanks all|pg||
nt|yo_yo: one more set to go|pg||
nt|ahh: last set will start shortly |pg||
nt|ahh: in the mean time thx to Margaret Pemble our operator |pg||
nt|ady: 3@D doubled brought in a much needed 12 imps|pg||
nt|ahh: David and Kath our excellent commentators|pg||
nt|ahh: and to you for watching |pg||
nt|ady: thx Jim     thx all|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3ST2H8642DAKQ7CQ74,SKJ863HJT5D8653C8,S95H3DJ92CAKJ9652,SAQ74HAKQ97DT4CT3|sv|e|mb|2C|an|intermediate|mb|2H|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|c2|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3ST2H8642DAKQ7CQ74,SKJ863HJT5D8653C8,S95H3DJ92CAKJ9652,SAQ74HAKQ97DT4CT3|sv|e|nt|vugraphzdc: just a few more minutes|pg||
nt|ady: change of partnership n/s|pg||
mb|3C|mb|d|nt|capercliff: interesting table here|pg||
nt|col3435: hi everyone|pg||
nt|ady: double from east?|pg||
mb|4C|mb|4S|nt|capercliff: teamates in Beijing|pg||
nt|bobh1: hello everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Peebles in Scotland for the Gold Cup 2008. Final, 8 segments of 8 boards. This is the fourth|pg||
nt|capercliff: hey folks|pg||
nt|mcphee: good day all|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: hi everyone |pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: hi Bob|pg||
mb|p|nt|benjy: 3@H short suit try?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Cliff Gillis, David Collier and Bob McPhee|pg||
nt|col3435: my goodness, this looks like a strong jump shift, I thought those were extinct|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator is Margaret Pemble|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S ok e/w|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my partner's bid bid @D on this auction too David :)|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|benjy: 4@S will make with the miracle @C layout|pg||
nt|capercliff: looks like it|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: sorry about that glitch|pg||
nt|ahh: lead of 35  only 8 boards left |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: S thinking|pg||
nt|ady: n/s should have saved|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|bobh1: yes not a great game but perhaps should be bid at imps|pg||
nt|ahh: big ask to get it back |pg||
pc|s3|nt|capercliff: 3@h didnt exactly improve South's hand|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mcphee: was just thinking the same|pg||
nt|ady: this could be costly|pg||
pc|sA|nt|benjy: Townsend has a lot of wastage, but should he bid the game anyway because of his void?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|benjy: his pd does have a 13 count after all|pg||
nt|xenya: 4@H looks a bit too ambitious|pg||
mc|11|nt|xenya: as does 5@D|pg||
pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SA2H9832D972CA932,SKJT86HTDJ654C865,S974HAQJ6DAKT3CQ7,SQ53HK754DQ8CKJT4|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|sK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|cT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|sJ|pc|hQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SA2H9832D972CA932,SKJT86HTDJ654C865,S974HAQJ6DAKT3CQ7,SQ53HK754DQ8CKJT4|sv|b|nt|capercliff: maybe not pushing non-vul|pg||
nt|ahh: if @D 3-1 then 4@H makes |pg||
nt|mcphee: do not recall the last time I held a 9 card suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@C sort of a nothing action from Burn -- but who knew partner had a traditional 3@C opening!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: this is a game they wont miss|pg||
nt|sharynr: and the save might have made without cashout in the right order:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahh: might see some swing making as its now 44 and 7 |pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|capercliff: 1@d promises a 4 card major im told|pg||
nt|col3435: ok that would explain it|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: double from N should show 2 fast @h losers|pg||
nt|capercliff: or maybe not...|pg||
mb|p|nt|col3435: then 2@c = 5+@c and 4@s|pg||
nt|mcphee: and 1@C is what do you know?|pg||
nt|capercliff: big|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: would like to be in game here most days|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|ahh: cards lie well for declarer |pg||
nt|ahh: cant see a way to go down |pg||
nt|col3435: yes. maybe not today though.|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 1 loser in each suit   and 4-1 break in hearts awkward|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Burn jump to 4@H reminds me of college days -- since all game invites were accepted, we decided to redefine as SLAM tries :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|benjy: he needed to lead a @C to get their @D ruff|pg||
nt|ahh: i say that in the hope we get a swing to make things interesting |pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: Burn probably went all-in because he held all 4 deuces|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ady: double game swing on last board   5@C made|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so now we have a 7 board match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i see lines for 9 tricks -- and a few for 8, does anybody see a magical route to 10?|pg||
nt|ady: e/w will have to make a mistake to let this through|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s3|nt|bobh1: a lot of imps swung on the defense|pg||
pc|d9|nt|capercliff: West cant really move if 3@s in invitational|pg||
nt|mcphee: getting lucky game fails|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: probably best to hope for @D33 -- too bad|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|benjy: i have a lot of sympathy with the lead|pg||
nt|xenya: unfortunately (?) he can't go down|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it used to be easier to kick over the table at this point -- but now, with screens ...|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: no screens here|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: all gentlemen|pg||
nt|ady: hackets must of got their card signalling wrong to let 5 clubs through|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|capercliff: should Townsend bid 5@s?|pg||
nt|benjy: no|pg||
nt|bobh1: me too, but it cost 8 or so|pg||
nt|benjy: could easily have 2 aces and a @C loser|pg||
nt|bobh1: the only argument against a @s lead is that's what they were expecting|pg||
nt|capercliff: I think he is very close|pg||
nt|benjy: they weren't expecting anything they guessed to sacrifice|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|xenya: and he would have been quite unlucky to go down on a different layout|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|bobh1: they were expecting a @s lead|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|bobh1: so maybe that's a reason to try something else|pg||
nt|ady: end play now|pg||
pc|h7|nt|mcphee: defenders trump spots just enough to beat game|pg||
nt|col3435: well he's going down in 3 now|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|capercliff: had it been red vs green 5@s is clear imop|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|ady: exit with heart ok|pg||
mc|9|nt|mcphee: yes, so a great pass!|pg||
nt|ady: not mistake from east|pg||
pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1S6HJT75DAQ873C842,SKT952H3DT9652C73,SJHAKQ982DCKJT965,SAQ8743H64DKJ4CAQ|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D!|an|reds or blacks|mb|d|mb|3D|an|reds or blacks|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|mc|11|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1S6HJT75DAQ873C842,SKT952H3DT9652C73,SJHAKQ982DCKJT965,SAQ8743H64DKJ4CAQ|sv|o|nt|vugraphzdc: no down 2|pg||
nt|xenya: no swing|pg||
nt|ahh: so 44 behind and 6 left |pg||
nt|mcphee: vulnerable for sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Collins up to task - flying with K@S was first opportunity for defensive error|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: action here |pg||
nt|xenya: and a poor score for the trailing team from the other room|pg||
mb|1H|nt|xenya: might be duplicated though... ah hardly now|pg||
nt|ahh: about to get worse as well |pg||
mb|1S|mb|2S!|nt|xenya: E to rescue|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ahh: in normal circumstances i would expect north to bid 4@S  but he has to try things now |pg||
mb|5C|mb|d|mb|5H|nt|ahh: game over i fear |pg||
nt|ahh: Sandgvist had no qualms about putting the boot in |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: he found double of 5@C next door|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: fun hand this|pg||
nt|ady: very distributional hand   I think all going down at 5 level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@S not making -- but no way North can stay quiet after South shows @H raise|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: i need to mind my Gs and Qs|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|nt|mcphee: Q@H lead cost nothing really|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ady: well done e/w to get it right at the 5 level  |pg||
pc|h4|nt|capercliff: X 5@d would have been the winning action|pg||
pc|h5|nt|xenya: the double is hardly obligatory here, but if N was trying things it looks more than appealing|pg||
nt|ahh: over 3@S i might have bid 3nt to try something in a hopeless cause |pg||
pc|h3|nt|benjy: Impossible to do that though|pg||
nt|capercliff: indeed|pg||
nt|benjy: Would you guys have biud 3@S with Jason's hand over 3@D?|pg||
nt|benjy: it is very close in my opinion|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|col3435: well it has given West more entries|pg||
pc|h9|nt|capercliff: i would|pg||
nt|mcphee: looks like 10 tricks were possible if he ran the @C to the Q|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|capercliff: depends how constructive they play it|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SAKQ4HAJ653D6CAJ5,ST98532H87DK2CQ73,SJHK42DAT98CKT864,S76HQT9DQJ7543C92|sv|n|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SAKQ4HAJ653D6CAJ5,ST98532H87DK2CQ73,SJHK42DAT98CKT864,S76HQT9DQJ7543C92|sv|n|nt|mcphee: no lead was attractive from N that hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Malinkowski did well to not just blast 6@H [correctly anticipating wasted @D values in dummy]|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|hedyg: hello:)|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bobh1: unless 2n is GF it is a v risky bid|pg||
nt|capercliff: 1@h here?|pg||
nt|ahh: hi Hedy|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Hedy|pg||
mb|3H|nt|hedyg: good evening all|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 4@S may well make     will have to lead J@H  answitch to lows diamond   not easy|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bobh1: with that good a hand, how can you not drive to game?|pg||
mb|4D|nt|benjy: why is it risky? it is a normal limit bid|pg||
nt|capercliff: with 9x @s as well|pg||
nt|bobh1: no it had to be forcing--otherwise why would N bid on?|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: declarer facing a nasty distribution here|pg||
nt|hedyg: my where to start?|pg||
nt|ahh: played other way round on @C lead would be more testing |pg||
mb|4N|nt|benjy: you have a bad 15 with no source of tricks and if pd can hold this kind of hand why is it so wrong?|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|nt|mcphee: this is going down quickly|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: error on the way i claimed last, scosre cosrrected 10 trix|pg||
nt|ahollan1: slam depends upon finding one of the round Queens|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|nt|bobh1: can you explain why N bid 3n?|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: going there.....|pg||
nt|xenya: jolt|pg||
nt|ahh: ah well declarer found the @C lead |pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: no way to make it now|pg||
nt|ahh: this is what we need another 4 boards like this |pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|benjy: It is possible that Gold reasoned that Townsend would need the @S for 2NT so he bid 3NT, who knows|pg||
nt|bobh1: i think it's much more likely they play 2n as forcing which is not a bad idea|pg||
nt|capercliff: 3N not really an option for me, why not 3@d or even 3@s?|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: wishing he had the @d lead|pg||
pc|h9|nt|hedyg: ruffed*|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahh: 2 off makes swing 11 |pg||
nt|ahh: 1 off is 10|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|h2|nt|benjy: 3@S may well be to play as they play strong jump overcalls|pg||
nt|capercliff: 3@s may promise 6, but 5@d is a possibility|pg||
nt|hedyg: playing @H cant be right with all the ruffing he needs to do|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ady: hearts favourable   and will surely find the club|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SKT42HJ96D5CT7532,S8763HKQ72DA8CK96,SJ5HT3DKJT63CQJ84,SAQ9HA854DQ9742CA|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SKT42HJ96D5CT7532,S8763HKQ72DA8CK96,SJ5HT3DKJT63CQJ84,SAQ9HA854DQ9742CA|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: well done|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: strange N didnt bid 3@d in the other room|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahh: the difference is now the answer to everything  so only 10.5 imps per bd for a tie |pg||
nt|hedyg: only :)|pg||
nt|ahh: aint going to do it playing in 1nt |pg||
nt|hedyg: might go for cause needs imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|capercliff: after 2NT much easier |pg||
nt|hedyg: no 10.5 imps here|pg||
nt|ady: tredinicks in 4@H  on board 27      will take the l ead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D alerted?   are Collins-Patterson playing Polish Club?|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: precision|pg||
nt|ady: do well just to bid game here|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: if Precision - strange not to begin with 1@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|ahh: and thats half the battle to get 42 back  1st you need the boards  to be swingy 2nd you need to create swings |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahh: normal actions arent enough |pg||
nt|ahh: that is likely to be flat boards|pg||
nt|hedyg: needs 1 @s trick to make this if @cs dont roll|pg||
nt|mcphee: this can make with careful play|pg||
nt|ady: may have downgrades stiff ace|pg||
mb|4C|nt|mcphee: trump looks best from up here in the gallery|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: 6 is cold, but not biddable|pg||
mb|4S|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: but that only cancels out the upgrade for having THREE :)|pg||
nt|ady: surely west should not be looking for more than game with east being limited|pg||
mb|p|nt|bobh1: amazing that S gave up so easily|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: yes, it seems N should have tried for 3N|pg||
mb|r|nt|ahh: so you need to mix it up and pray  usually it means you lose by a barrell load but once in a blue moon the caeds cooperate and you get very very drunk in the bar |pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: sorry lost this one|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok Margaret np|pg||
nt|xenya: not that it ever makes, with both minors 4-2|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: powerful 9@S delivered from Collins|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Collins looking for slam opposite non @C opener - hoping for partner's @D to be source of tricks|pg||
mb|5D|nt|capercliff: im told they are in 6 in the other room!|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not unreasonable - when bidding BELOW 4@H|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|capercliff: he will still have 1@s in dummy after ruffing a @d|pg||
nt|capercliff: but he would probably play for the drop anyway|pg||
mb|6H|nt|capercliff: 3@c must have shown a minimum|pg||
nt|ady: bidding out of control|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if it was state-of-the-match attempt at swing|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: if so, it worked -- but in the wrong direction|pg||
nt|ady: they are ahead     |pg||
pc|sK|nt|mcphee: wd|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they are ahead - but may not realize it|pg||
nt|ady: they may not  know it   but have had a good set so far|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SAJ72HQT9DKQT7CK8,SQ84HAJ4DJ954C953,ST953HK873D86CAT7,SK6H652DA32CQJ642|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sT|mc|10|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SAJ72HQT9DKQT7CK8,SQ84HAJ4DJ954C953,ST953HK873D86CAT7,SK6H652DA32CQJ642|sv|o|nt|capercliff: David went on regardless of minimum|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: in the other room|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bobh1: this, along with 25, makes 2 boards where conservative bidding by NS may be costly|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 1NT|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 6@s again anyone?|pg||
nt|capercliff: 5@d can make on a non @h lead|pg||
nt|mcphee: 2@S a big bid|pg||
nt|capercliff: or 4@s for that matter probably|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|ahh: hi all exciting finish |pg||
pc|c7|nt|col3435: that's odd isn't it|pg||
nt|ady: go into a good spot    |pg||
nt|ahh: every hand now counts |pg||
pc|cJ|nt|col3435: you'd think if South showed a good hand, North would be delighted|pg||
nt|mcphee: i thot 3@D created a GF|pg||
nt|capercliff: N didnt think 3@d was being passed|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|col3435: maybe North thought that too|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many pairs clarify major holding AND club position when Stayman is Doubled|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|capercliff: if N had a 4th @d this would be trickier|pg||
nt|hedyg: nonslam|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|c9|nt|capercliff: 6 that is|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this hand does have potential for a swing, it wouldn't be a total shock if other room is in game|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: but more likely 2@S vs 3@S|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|hedyg: @c finesse|pg||
nt|capercliff: good lead to hold it to 10|pg||
nt|ady: hackets made 6@H on board 28    i imp away|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d8|nt|capercliff: ?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|benjy: strange line he was cold for 11 by taking a @C ruff|pg||
nt|capercliff: is this right operator?|pg||
nt|bobh1: obviously not trying for overtricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: might try now to disc 1@c on @d|pg||
pc|d7|mc|10|nt|ahh: wants to be in game now :) everything friendly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: finding J@H will make Burn wish contract was 4@H|pg||
pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SQJ98HKQ432DT7CJT,S54HAJT87DQ9CK964,SK32H965DA43CAQ73,SAT76HDKJ8652C852|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|cJ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1SQJ98HKQ432DT7CJT,S54HAJT87DQ9CK964,SK32H965DA43CAQ73,SAT76HDKJ8652C852|sv|n|nt|benjy: looks like he did take the ruff|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: no I must have got play wrong|pg||
nt|capercliff: must have|pg||
nt|hedyg: only 10 yes|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot ruff 2 losers with 1 @s|pg||
nt|capercliff: oh 11?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops -- Jim types faster|pg||
nt|ahh: on a good day |pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: score correct|pg||
nt|capercliff: looks like 3N|pg||
nt|col3435: 11 seems unlikely, doesn't it. let's say it was 10.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|col3435: so in this system, 2@d shows an opening hand and denies a 4-card major|pg||
nt|mcphee: i suppose 2@D denies a 4 card major |pg||
nt|capercliff: we have seen these 2m last set, intermediate|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: paul simon:  a good day - ain't got no rain|pg||
mb|2C|nt|capercliff: tx Margaret|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: these guys v fast|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D best spot -- but who has system that can get there?|pg||
nt|ahh: those who dont open west hand have a chance |pg||
nt|ady: Hackets getting too high on board 29     6@H    a let of for Collins team|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting thought when 1@H guarantees 5 AND limited hand -- is to forgoe @S and just bid 1N forcing|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: 1i was 10 sorry|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: the lost @c|pg||
nt|capercliff: and yes, no 4M|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|ahh: north happy not to have got involved will fancy his chances on defence |pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting swing potential here -- if West does NOT open -- NS may play @H|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|benjy: declarer will probably make 10 tricks here|pg||
nt|ady: yes   thats the only way to a diamond contract|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahh: Italians and Aberdonians routinely double with North hand |pg||
nt|ahollan1: and Bart Bramley|pg||
nt|ady: suppose that will deceive parter who can never think you have 4 reasonable spades|pg||
nt|ahh: hes not from Aberden must be Italian |pg||
nt|ahollan1: easier to DBL if partner is NOT passed hand|pg||
nt|ahh: they dont seem to care       p i have points   look at me |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|benjy: 9 after the @H ruff|pg||
nt|mcphee: @H lead costly this time|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mamos: sorry all the late mike amos|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahh: al over now  our congratulations to the De botton team comiserations to Townsend and co i am sure they will be back |pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: K@S? to try to kill @D suit??|pg||
pc|s3|nt|benjy: spec points out that 3NT by e/w would also make 9 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: certainly!|pg||
nt|capercliff: a 1c lead was best, but even that wouldnt break this|pg||
nt|ady: good defense|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sigh -- not going to get into print with THAT play :)|pg||
nt|ahh: if he ducks  roof falls in |pg||
nt|ady: yes  king seems best|pg||
pc|s6|nt|capercliff: good morning Mike:)|pg||
nt|capercliff: @c|pg||
nt|mcphee: not clear as it seems to be in trouble now|pg||
pc|s8|nt|benjy: looks cold to me, but how to get there?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|capercliff: de Botton team pulling away this set|pg||
nt|bobh1: for one thing, E could bid again with full opening values and a fit for his pd's suit|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|capercliff: odd for the Hackett's to pass the W hand|pg||
pc|c4|nt|vugraphzdc: Nick thinking|pg||
nt|mcphee: Nick is in deep do do|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|capercliff: 10x 10x must have persuaded him not to|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|ahh: going to escape for 1 down |pg||
pc|h8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: for specs -- small @S worked well because South held such great @S -- but if Declarer held @SQ, then low @S gives up trick in suit AND dummy retains entry|pg||
pc|c9|nt|capercliff: -1 now|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ady: will get out for down 1|pg||
nt|ahh: maybe not |pg||
mc|6|nt|ady: sorry down 2|pg||
pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SA32H54DJ764CAKT5,SQ86HAJT7DA9CQ632,S94HKQ8632DT32C97,SKJT75H9DKQ85CJ84|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|d2|mc|9|pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SA32H54DJ764CAKT5,SQ86HAJT7DA9CQ632,S94HKQ8632DT32C97,SKJT75H9DKQ85CJ84|sv|e|nt|benjy: consider the hacketts open anything i don't think justin's hand is even close to moving|pg||
nt|ahh:  thx to Margaret Pemble our great operator in Peebles  thanks to Vladimir Ivanov and Hedy Grey for their comments  our appreciation to BGB and the SBU for setting up this broadcast ...|pg||
nt|ahh:  the final is tomorrow morning between De Botton  and Collins 10 am UK 11am Paris 2am Los Angeles 5am New York 9 pm Sydney|pg||
nt|hedyg: only 8 i think|pg||
nt|hedyg: and to you Jim!|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, just 8 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: thanks everyone - nice to see you at Peebles|pg||
nt|hedyg: Margaret bd 31 2@H=|pg||
nt|ahh: the last board what a nail biter |pg||
mb|1D!|nt|hedyg: pls correct it|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: right|pg||
nt|bobh1: they are in a conservative mood in the British isles this morning|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in horse racing terms -- this could be a photo-finish|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|mcphee: a raise coming|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|hedyg: quite a 2@s bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now THAT's a Precision 1@D opener |pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: they all badly want to win this match - much needle|pg||
nt|mcphee: oh 3@S a bit heavy perhaps|pg||
mb|2S|nt|benjy: Erichsen opened the hand in the Open room and so they bid game and 8 imps to Townsend|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: some might say that this IS the final, as the winner will be heavy favorites to win it all|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: yes indeed|pg||
nt|mamos: along history of favourites losing the final|pg||
nt|capercliff: sure Mike, anything can happen|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: seer you soon|pg||
nt|Walddk4: This was quick|pg||
nt|xenya: quite a double|pg||
nt|capercliff: so is 4@s|pg||
nt|ady: 3@S limit e/w  assuming 2 clubs and a ruff and A@D|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: did Erichsen really double?|pg||
nt|ahh: notice the top heavy 2@S response its because they open such rubbish |pg||
nt|mcphee: wonder if he is expecting a 4th trump|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: sure|pg||
nt|capercliff: trump lead was required|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S shows that 2@C was old fashioned [one-way] checkback or new minor force|pg||
nt|ahh: lets see 2 chances to beat this |pg||
pc|cA|nt|capercliff: this might sneak home now|pg||
nt|mcphee: some kibs feel E might have dbled |pg||
nt|mcphee: which might have attracted a trump lead|pg||
nt|capercliff: i can only count 9 tricks|pg||
nt|col3435: you mean West?|pg||
nt|capercliff: if S starts a cross ruff|pg||
nt|col3435: East has nothing like a double|pg||
nt|ahh: thats the 1st 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this will be quick beat|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: especially if NS playing standard carding|pg||
pc|cK|nt|col3435: South could have a much better hand|pg||
nt|mcphee: I do not think Collins should dble|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: i may not have the auction wuite right but N in 3H - everything happened at once here|pg||
nt|hedyg: he cant be thinking|pg||
nt|xenya: looks like -2 here -- for a push|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: ty all|pg||
nt|vugraphzdc: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|ahh: count or encourage no matter here |pg||
pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s4|nt|capercliff: another @h may have given fefence a problem|pg||
nt|capercliff: defence|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiously -- tougher for pairs playing upside down carding because 7@C hard to read as doubleton|pg||
nt|ady: sorry  A@S  loser not A@D|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|ahh: and claim shake hands and wait anxiously for other table |pg||
pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks to our vugraph operator Margaret -- great job!|pg||
nt|ady: this is very tight finish|pg||
nt|ahh: thx to the players for great match |pg||
mc|9|nt|vugraphzdc: thks everyone|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|ahh: lets all shoot next door to see the finale |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think it is great that we get to view this event -- i've been reading about it for [gulp] decades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if Collins had a bid over 2@C that would show 3@S, 4@H AND max -- maybe, just maybe the final contract might have been 3N|pg||
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